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They’re known as the ISIS brides. 11 women and 23 kids who, for nearly a decade, have languished in a dusty desert detention camp in Northern Syria. Some of the children have known no other home.
But the PM insists the group, who are all Australian citizens, aren’t welcome here.
Thwarted at the last minute, as they tried to make their way back home this week. The group is now in limbo once more.
Today, Greens Senator David Shoebridge and Syria expert Josh Landis on the threat of radicalisation, the hope of rehabilitation, and what happens next for these Australians as chaos takes hold in Syria.

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Guest: Greens Senator David Shoebridge & Syria expert Dr. Joshua Landis
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It was 2019 when journalist Emily Maitlis sat down for that car crash interview with then-Prince Andrew.
It was the beginning of the end for the prince.
Now, Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has again hit the headlines, this time for allegedly sharing secret trade documents with Jeffrey Epstein.
And as the fallout from the Epstein files threatens to take down everyone from ambassadors to prime ministers - Emily Maitlis again has a front row seat as the saga unfolds.
Today, Emily Maitlis from The News Agents podcast on Andrew, the Epstein files, and how Trump is reshaping Europe.
Emily Maitlis appears at the MCEC presented by The Wheeler Centre on 5 March and at the All About Women festival in Sydney on 8 March.

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Guest: Emily Maitlis, journalist & host of The News Agents
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The CFMEU construction union has been under a cloud since investigative journalist Nick McKenzie started digging into allegations of corruption in 2024. Bikie figures, organised crime, intimidation. All taking place on major government-funded projects.
Now, a report has laid out all those stories in one place. And even Nick says he was stunned by the scale of it.
The report's author, barrister Geoffery Watson, not only tore the CFMEU to shreds - but also claimed the Victorian government knew about the problems, and failed to act.
But that section of Watson's report, that questioned the Victorian Labor government, was deleted before the report was published.
Today, Nine newspapers investigative reporter Nick McKenzie, on the incredible scale of the corruption at the CFMEU, and the serious questions the government has to answer.

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Guest: Nick McKenzie, Nine newspapers investigative reporter
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More than 30,000 people from Pacific Island nations and Timor-Leste are on a working visa in Australia as part of the Pacific Australia Labour Mobility scheme – or PALM.
The government sells it as a ‘triple win’: workers earn Australian wages, Australian employers fill jobs they say they can’t fill locally, and money flows back to families and economies across the region.
But Morgan Harrington has been investigating the cases where workers say they were exploited and mistreated – including being overcharged by their employer for housing that’s overcrowded and even dangerous.
And because a worker’s visa is tied to one employer, leaving can mean losing your legal status – but thousands have chosen to, now living in Australia with the risk of deportation.
Today, Postdoctoral Research Manager at the Australia Institute, Dr Morgan Harrington, on why the PALM scheme is ripe for exploitation – and why some say it’s a modern slavery risk.

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Guest: Postdoctoral Research Manager at the Australia Institute, Dr Morgan Harrington
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On Monday, about 6,000 people attended a protest against Israeli President Isaac Herzog's visit to Sydney.
The event began peacefully – but videos later emerged, showing protesters being pepper-sprayed, beaten, and arrested by police.
Police say some demonstrators wanted to march to NSW Parliament despite a restriction making it unlawful – and that when orders to disperse were ignored, they had to move the crowd on.
Twenty-seven protesters were arrested.
There have been a number of incidents in recent years where police have been accused of using excessive force against protesters. It comes as officers increasingly use weapons like pepper spray and rubber bullets.
Today, journalist and author Ariel Bogle on the use of these so-called “non-lethal” weapons, and how they’re changing protests in Australia.
This episode was first published in October 2025.

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Guest: Journalist and author Ariel Bogle
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