The Mother Daze with Sarah Wright Olsen & Teresa Palmer
Sarah Wright Olsen & Teresa Palmer

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Own or Be Owned: Motherhood, Money & Making Yourself Less Needed with Codie Sanchez
20/08/2026 | 55minThis week on The Mother Daze, we’re joined by powerhouse entrepreneur, contrarian thinker and author Codie Sanchez for a conversation about ambition, motherhood, money and the sneaky ways we can become the biggest obstacle to our own freedom. Ahead of the release of her new book, Own or Be Owned, Codie shares what it really means to build a business so good it doesn’t need you.
We also talk Codie’s incredibly exciting news, she’s pregnant with her first child! She opens up about sharing her five-year journey to conceive publicly, what it means to be honest about something so deeply personal as a public figure, and why she wanted other women walking that road to know they’re not alone. We talk about taking fertility for granted and what it looks like to integrate building a family with building a business, chasing a dream and still having a life.
We dive into Codie’s world of contrarian thinking, boring businesses and ownership, why women so often downplay what they’re building as a “side hustle” or “little project,” and what it takes to build something that actually gives you more freedom.
Plus, the Hero Complex, martyrdom, delegating, getting unstuck when your ideas feel stagnant, and two-way-door decisions. It’s a big juicy one about owning your ambition, your choices, your time and the life you actually want to build.
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contrarianthinking.co
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Main Street Millionaire by Codie Sanchez
Own or Be Owned by Codie Sanchez
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ownerbook.com
The Zen Mama Guide by Sarah and Teresa
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The Zen Mama Guide by Sarah and Teresa
Follow Sarah Wright Olsen: IG: @swrightolsen
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More about the show! • Watch this episode on YouTube here • Co-founders of @yourzenmama yourzenmama.com • Read and buy our book! "The Zen Mama Guide To Finding Your Rhythm In Pregnancy, Birth, and Beyond" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
DISCOUNT CODES: • Go to www.baeo.com and get 20% when using the code MOTHERDAZE20 • Go to www.lovewell.earth and get 20% when using the code MOTHERDAZE20
More about the show! • Watch this episode on YouTube here • Co-founders of @yourzenmama yourzenmama.com • Read and buy our book! "The Zen Mama Guide To Finding Your Rhythm In Pregnancy, Birth, and Beyond" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices- This week on The Mother Daze we’re solo-ing it and Tez is too… solo parenting coming up on WEEK FIVE! Wahooooo!
The Palmer kids are back in school, there’s explosive baby diarrhea, sore booties, diaper-free disasters and multiple kid meltdowns happening AT THE SAME TIME. Just another relaxing week in motherhood!
We chat the absolute beast that is the mental load, the 900 tabs permanently open in a mother’s brain, and how sometimes even delegating feels like another bloody thing to do.
Tez shares her pal’s brilliant marble jar analogy: every snack, lift, lost shoe, school form, sibling squabble and “Muuuuum!” costs us a marble, while those little moments of being seen, thanked, appreciated or helped can put a marble back in the jar. Which begs the question… how do we make sure we actually have enough marbles to give away?!
Sarah shares why multitasking has never been her superpower, and we chat about the value of focusing on one thing at a time instead of trying to juggle ALL THE THINGS, ALL THE TIME.
We’re losing our marbles, finding a few again and attempting to keep the 900 tabs open without completely crashing the system!!
Resource Links:
Fair Play Book by Eve Rodsky
Ooshies Woolworths
BAEO Bare Butter
Follow Sarah Wright Olsen: IG: @swrightolsen
Follow Teresa Palmer: IG: @teresapalmer
FB: https://www.facebook.com/teresamarypalmer/
DISCOUNT CODES: • Go to www.baeo.com and get 20% when using the code MOTHERDAZE20 • Go to www.lovewell.earth and get 20% when using the code MOTHERDAZE20
More about the show! • Watch this episode on YouTube here • Co-founders of @yourzenmama yourzenmama.com • Read and buy our book! "The Zen Mama Guide To Finding Your Rhythm In Pregnancy, Birth, and Beyond" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices - This week we’re joined by Dr. Sarah Oreck, a Columbia University-trained reproductive psychiatrist and co-founder of Mavida Health, to unpack one of the most misunderstood stages of a woman’s life: perimenopause
When does it actually start? Can you be postpartum and in perimenopause at the same time? (Yep.) Why does it feel like nobody prepared us for this?!
We’re talking brain fog, anxiety, rage, sleep, heart palpitations, yes… even itchy ears, why estrogen impacts almost every system in the body, and how perimenopause can last 7 to 10 years.
Dr. Oreck also walks us through the full spectrum of treatment options, from lifestyle changes and therapy to hormone treatment, busts a few myths, and answers the questions so many women are too afraid, too busy, or too confused to ask.
If you’ve ever found yourself thinking, “What on earth is happening to me?” this episode is for you… and every woman you know.
Resource Links:
Dare I Say It by Naomi Watts
mavidahealth.com
Follow Sarah Oreck on IG: @sarahoreckmd
@mavidahealth
Follow Sarah Wright Olsen: IG: @swrightolsen
Follow Teresa Palmer: IG: @teresapalmer
FB: https://www.facebook.com/teresamarypalmer/
DISCOUNT CODES: • Go to www.baeo.com and get 20% when using the code MOTHERDAZE20 • Go to www.lovewell.earth and get 20% when using the code MOTHERDAZE20
More about the show! • Watch this episode on YouTube here • Co-founders of @yourzenmama yourzenmama.com • Read and buy our book! "The Zen Mama Guide To Finding Your Rhythm In Pregnancy, Birth, and Beyond" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices - This week on The Mother Daze, it’s smart phone fears, dumb phone cheers… ? but when do we finally bite the bullet?
We dive into screen time, devices, kids growing older, the fear surrounding social media, and raising tweens in an increasingly online world. Is an Apple Watch the perfect first step? Or do you hold off altogether? We pick each other’s brains on our plans, fears, all the research we’ve done, and where we’ve landed so far.
We also get into fits of giggles over inappropriate humour (Summer Heights High… IYKYK), frolic through Little House on the Prairie, and chat about Kate Box’s brilliantly funny Aussie comedy, Deadloch.
Sarah’s TikTok emergence also brings out that one A-HOLIO who reckons she should “Botox up.”
Well, looky here, you sad anti-ager… these mamas to NINE have earned every one of these laugh lines, crow’s feet, forehead creases, smile wrinkles, and motherhood badges of honour. They’re proof of a life well lived, deeply loved, and very well laughed AND we won’t be injecting them away.
So, as Mr G would say…
“SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS, MARGARET.”
(For the purposes of this episode, “Margaret” is our affectionate name for anyone policing women’s faces. )
Resource Links:
Deadloch (2023)
Summer Heights High (2007)
Little House On The Prairie (2026)
Follow Sarah on TikTok: @swrightolsen
Follow Sarah Wright Olsen: IG: @swrightolsen
Follow Teresa Palmer: IG: @teresapalmer
FB: https://www.facebook.com/teresamarypalmer/
DISCOUNT CODES: • Go to www.baeo.com and get 20% when using the code MOTHERDAZE20 • Go to www.lovewell.earth and get 20% when using the code MOTHERDAZE20
More about the show! • Watch this episode on YouTube here • Co-founders of @yourzenmama yourzenmama.com • Read and buy our book! "The Zen Mama Guide To Finding Your Rhythm In Pregnancy, Birth, and Beyond" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices - This week on The Mother Daze, Sarah and Teresa are talking all about change… because wow, life has been LIFE-ing lately.
The Palmer household has had a few unexpected plot twists, and Teresa shares the silver linings that have come with them. She celebrates the beautiful togetherness Vancouver brought their family, chats about their time there wrapping up sooner than expected, and all the excitement of their giddy return to Byron for the time being.
They also chat solo parenting, finding the world’s greatest au pair (seriously… where has she been all their lives?!) and all the little moments that made this chapter so memorable.
Then we unpack the wild world of perimenopause. Is it postpartum? Is it perimenopause? Is it both?! We chat symptoms, hormones, brain fog, mood swings, and why this season of life can feel like one giant guessing game. It’s time we started talking about it more.
Finally, Teresa shares all the spooky details about her brand new true crime and mystery podcast, They Run The Night.
Resource Links:
They Run The Night Podcast
The Village By F.J. West, Jr Book
Follow Sarah Wright Olsen: IG: @swrightolsen
Follow Teresa Palmer: IG: @teresapalmer
FB: https://www.facebook.com/teresamarypalmer/
DISCOUNT CODES: • Go to www.baeo.com and get 20% when using the code MOTHERDAZE20 • Go to www.lovewell.earth and get 20% when using the code MOTHERDAZE20
More about the show! • Watch this episode on YouTube here • Co-founders of @yourzenmama yourzenmama.com • Read and buy our book! "The Zen Mama Guide To Finding Your Rhythm In Pregnancy, Birth, and Beyond" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Sarah Wright Olsen (American Made, Parks and Recreation) and Teresa Palmer (Warm Bodies, Hacksaw Ridge) are two moms, from opposite ends of the world, meeting for an hour every week to discuss the mayhem, magic and madness of raising their 8 children between them. Motherhood can feel overwhelming, exhausting and isolating but you don’t have to do it alone! Follow along as they attempt to navigate, ask questions, share stories, break down the everyday challenges and hopefully keep you from googling phrases like “What does it mean when my baby’s poop is green?” Grab your coffee, tea, Kombucha or favorite libation and join as they discuss mom fails, poop talk, pillow talk, and much more. These moms will engage in some brilliant interviews with celebrity friends, parenting experts and listeners like you! From the creators of the celebrated Your Zen Mama community, Sarah Wright Olsen and Teresa Palmer bring you “The Mother Daze”, a refreshing and real look in to the wild and wonderful days of Motherhood. Subscribe so you never miss an episode, whether you’re listening sitting in your minivan or taking some me time in the tub.
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