Chris and Andy are joined by ‘Succession’ creator Jesse Armstrong to talk about when he really knew that the show would end after Season 4 (1:00), the influences he pulled from to make this final season (24:22), and how the final scenes of the finale came to be (44:13). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Jesse Armstrong Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Andy and Kaya give some instant reactions to the ‘Succession’ series finale (1:00) and talk about whether anyone can really “win” on the show (30:40). Then, Andy is joined by Sean Fennessey to talk about ‘Barry,’ the other major HBO series that recently concluded. They talk about how the show has evolved since its first season (1:00:07) and how Bill Hader never wanted you to feel sorry for the character of Barry (1:26:56). Host: Andy Greenwald Guests: Kaya McMullen and Sean Fennessey Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the forthcoming end of ‘Succession,’ discuss what they will miss most about the show, and make some predictions for the finale (1:00). Then, Andy is joined by ‘City on Fire’ showrunners Josh Schwartz and Stephanie Savage to talk about adapting the show from the book (26:56) and recreating 2003 New York (44:27). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guests: Josh Schwartz and Stephanie Savage Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the penultimate episode of 'Succession,' "Church and State." They talk about Roman's breakdown at the funeral, the use of language in this episode (1:00), how the kids continue to grieve Logan by trying to become him (26:34), and how this episode is similar to the "Ozymandias" episode of 'Breaking Bad' (39:01). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the trailer for Season 2 of ‘The Bear,’ released this week (1:00), and why ‘Class of ’09,’ the FBI thriller series starring Kate Mara and Bryan Tyree Henry, falls short by trying to pack too much into the plot (14:54). Finally they talk about the unnerving latest episode of ‘Barry’ (37:06). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices