With The Perrys

After a fruitful yet exhausting year, the Perrys talk about the future of the podcast and their public ministry. They discuss whether or not they did too much, what they’ve learned about rhythms of rest, how God has used success and scrutiny to make them more like Jesus, and the gifts and dangers of social media. While some ministry will still continue at the start of the new year, new episodes of With The Perrys won’t be released until Summer 2025. In the meantime, be sure you’re subscribed to the newsletter for occasional updates from Jackie and Preston. Episode resources:John Piper’s sermon about what God allows: “Seven Ways God Reigns Over Evil” The Perrys’ 2024 recap:Jackie’s Bible study, Ephesians: A Study of Faith and Practice, with LifewayPreston’s first book, How to Tell the Truth: The Story of How God Saved Me to Win Hearts—Not Just ArgumentsThe 16-city With The Perrys podcast tourActs 242 ConferenceJackie’s EP, “Practice,” with Reach RecordsPreston’s Bible study, Everyday Evangelism - Bible Study Book with Video Access: Pursuing Hearts, Not Arguments, with LifewayThe ramp-up of BOLD Apparel Subscribe to the Perrys' newsletter.To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Today’s podcast guest, Sarah Benibo, joins Jackie and Preston to discuss the church’s relationship with lament – or lack thereof – and the reality that we can still worship God through our expression of sorrow and grief. She explains how we are to lament by pointing to N.T. Wright’s quote that says “Lament is an appeal to God based on confidence in His character.” Our lament says “God, you are good, that I know. This circumstance I’m facing is not. Help!”This Episode of With The Perrys is Sponsored by:https://ariseforwomen.com — Get this 21-day video series from Covenant Eyes completely free!https://magicspoon.com/PERRY — Get $5 off right now with code PERRY!https://uncommongoods.com/perry — Get 15% off unique gifts for everyone on your list today! Follow Sarah online:https://www.instagram.com/sarah_benibo/https://www.sarahbenibo.com/ Subscribe to the Perrys' newsletter.To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Ray Ortlund is back on the podcast to discuss the topics of pornography, human dignity, sexuality, and marriage. As a pastor, Ray has come to realize that porn is the wallpaper of our culture. It’s everywhere. We’re not just looking at it; it’s looking for us. So how are we to respond and fight back with the gospel in mind? This Episode of With The Perrys is Sponsored by:https://uncommongoods.com/perry — Get 15% off unique gifts for everyone on your list today!https://liberty.edu/Perry — Get your application fee WAIVED when you start your future with Liberty University today! Grab a copy of Ray’s book, The Death of Porn: Men of Integrity Building a World of Nobility and follow him on Instagram at @rayortlund. And if you missed it, go back and listen to Ray with his wife Jani in a previous episode, Family and Parenting with Generations in Mind: A Conversation With The Ortlunds. Subscribe to the Perrys' newsletter.To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

The “unimpressive” life you live today is really important. Even the mundane matters. God is using it and will bless you and future generations through your faithfulness. These are reminders from Ray and Jani Ortlund, who join the Perrys on the podcast to impart their wisdom from their 53-year journey in marriage and parenting.Ray founded Immanuel Church in Nashville, where he still serves as the pastor to pastors. He and Jani together steward Renewal Ministries and recently wrote a book together called To the Tenth Generation: God’s Heart for Your Family, Far into the Future.This Episode of With The Perrys is Sponsored by:www.uncommongoods.com/PERRY — Find something for everyone on your list and get 15% off!https://ariseforwomen.com — Get this 21-day video series from Covenant Eyes completely free! Follow the Ortlunds:https://www.instagram.com/rayortlund/https://www.instagram.com/janiortlund/https://www.threads.net/@rayortlundhttps://renewalministries.com/ Subscribe to the Perrys' newsletter.To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com