Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by new friend of the show, the great writer, Megan Abbott. Megan is prolific in her field with her primary focus on true crime stories. Although her books are fiction, the plot-lines are well-researched and based on actual cases. Her newest book, El Dorado Drive is a riveting read and draws significantly from the 2010 murder of Barbara Hamburg in Madison CT.
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https://www.meganabbott.com/
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537 // Death & Lovejoy w/Bess Lovejoy
Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by another new friend of the show, the wonderful Bess Lovejoy. Bess is a journalist and an author with a primary focus on all things macabre. The discussion contains fascinating topics like graveyard etiquette and the remarkable fates of the corpses of famous people.
Get your copy of Rest In Pieces: https://bookshop.org/a/3935/9781451655001
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536 // Missing Evelyn Hartley
In this episode Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna discuss the mysterious disappearance of Evelyn Grace Hartley from La Crosse, Wisconsin on October 24th, 1953.
Evelyn was babysitting nearby when she was seemingly abducted from a home. Signs of a struggle were seen in the living room, her sneaker was found at the bottom of the basement stairs, and blood was found in the yard. Evelyn was never seen again.
If you have any information regarding the disappearance of Evelyn Hartley please call the La Cross police department at 608-785-5962.
This episode was originally published on June 23rd, 2025 on Missing.
This episode was researched by Kathleen Studer.
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Sources:
Where’s Evelyn? The 1953 babysitter’s kidnapping that shook the nation by Susan T. Hessel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Evelyn_Hartley.
https://charleyproject.org/case/evelyn-grace-hartley.
newspapers.com.
ancestry.com.
https://www.wiproud.com/rivertown-2024/the-evelyn-hartly-disappearance-pictures/.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Crosse,_Wisconsin.
https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/KLSE/date/1953-10-24
Main Theme by Kevin Macleod. Check out his work at https://incompetech.com/.
Additional music by David Williams. See his work at http://williamsflutes.com.
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535 // The Devil Wears Rothko w/ Barry Avrich
In this episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with author and filmmaker Barry Avrich about his new book The Devil Wears Rothko about an intense forgery scheme involving priceless art.
Get the book here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Devil-Wears-Rothko/Barry-Avrich/9798888454527.
https://www.amazon.com/Devil-Wears-Rothko-Inside-Scandal/dp/B0DJKYT463.
Watch Made You Look: https://www.netflix.com/title/81406333.
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This episode was previously published on Empty Frames.
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534 // Sister Saint or Sister Sinner w/ Claire Hoffman
Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by new friend of the show, a great journalist and author, Claire Hoffman. In this conversation, Claire examines and life and potential crimes of the larger than life self-made evangelist and media phenom, Sister Aimee Semple McPherson.
To get a copy of Claire's book, Sister Sinner, go to:
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Crawlspace is where crime meets culture.
We host interesting conversations about unsolved murders, serial killers, cold cases and paranormal activity. We go beyond entertainment as we dig deeper to tell stories of crimes, vanished people, and injustices. Our guests include survivors, authors, journalists, podcasters, advocates, and educators.
Starting in 2017 with a deep dive into the disappearance of Brianna Maitland, Crawlspace is hosted by Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna of the Missing Maura Murray and Missing podcasts.
Frequent topics include unsolved murders like the JonBenét Ramsey case, wrongful convictions like John Giuca, serial killers like the Zodiac killer, Christopher Wilder, and Jeffrey Dahmer. We speak with experts in criminal psychology like Dr Michelle Ward, survivors like Jane Boroski, and even Satanist Lucien Greaves. But we also have a lighter side where we discuss ghosts and paranormal activity, weird cryptids like Bigfoot and Mothman, and fun mysteries like the dolls found in a Michigan couple’s mailbox.
Authors like Jon Ronson, Rabia Chaudry, and Daniel Stone have joined us and we’ve even spoken with familiar names in comedy and entertainment like Melissa Rivers, Patrick Hinds, and Dave Holmes.
Crawlspace is a Crawlspace Media production.
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