ESG Decoded Podcast

Filmed live at Climate Week NYC 2026, our second annual ESG Decoded x Climate Week NYC video series features candid conversations with chief sustainability officers (CSOs) driving change. See how business strategy, climate innovation, and collaboration come together to create impact—and discover real-world insights you can put into action within your own sphere of influence.
 
Stay tuned for more episodes from the series. For now, let’s decode ESG together!
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You may know Nokia for its iconic phones. Today, the company builds networks for an increasingly connected, AI-powered world—and aims to reach net-zero greenhouse gas emissions across its value chain by 2040.
Host Emma Cox sits down with Subho Mukherjee, Vice President & Global Head of Sustainability at Nokia, to explore what that ambition means for business strategy, climate action, and the future of connectivity.
Drawing on his chemical engineering background and experience across Nokia’s business, Subho shares a practical perspective on sustainability: navigating trade-offs, creating opportunities, and making complex issues relatable.
Emma and Subho discuss:
How chemical engineering shaped his approach to sustainability—and balancing competing priorities

How he identified a sustainability need at Nokia and helped shape his own role

Why sustainability’s “3.0 era” calls for moving beyond the ESG alphabet soup toward more human conversations

What enabled Nokia to bring its net-zero target forward by a decade to 2040

How to balance the pace of AI innovation with responsibility—and an idea Nokia is exploring in response

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Episode Resources
Nokia’s Sustainability: https://www.nokia.com/about-us/sustainability/ 

Nokia’s 2025 Sustainability Report: https://www.nokia.com/system/files/2026-03/nokia-2025-sustainability-report.pdf 

Nokia Partners with NVIDIA: https://www.nokia.com/newsroom/nokia-partners-with-nvidia/ 

Connect with Subho Mukherjee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/subhagata10/ 

Connect with Emma Cox: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmagillespiecox/ 

 
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About ESG Decoded ESG Decoded, powered by ClimeCo, is a podcast for business leaders navigating sustainability, innovation, and the evolving expectations shaping organizations today.
Hosted by Emma Cox, Erika Schiller, and Anna Stablum, the show features candid conversations with sustainability leaders and subject-matter experts across industries. Each episode cuts through the noise to explore the ideas, challenges, and actions moving sustainability forward—giving listeners practical insights to turn ambition into meaningful impact.
ESG Decoded Resource Links 
Site: https://www.climeco.com/podcast-series/

Apple Podcasts: https://go.climeco.com/ApplePodcasts

Spotify: https://go.climeco.com/Spotify

YouTube Music: https://go.climeco.com/YouTube-Music

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/esg-decoded/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/esgdecoded/*This episode was produced by Singing Land Studio 

About ClimeCoClimeCo is an award-winning leader in decarbonization, empowering global organizations with customized sustainability pathways. Our respected scientists and industry experts collaborate with companies, governments, and capital markets to develop tailored ESG and decarbonization solutions. Recognized for creating high-quality, impactful projects, ClimeCo is committed to helping clients achieve their goals, maximize environmental assets, and enhance their brand.
ClimeCo Resource Links
Site: https://climeco.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/climeco/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/climeco/

Filmed live at Climate Week NYC 2026, our second annual ESG Decoded x Climate Week NYC video series features candid conversations with chief sustainability officers (CSOs) driving change. See how business strategy, climate innovation, and collaboration come together to create impact—and discover real-world insights you can put into action within your own sphere of influence.
Stay tuned for more episodes from the series. For now, let’s decode ESG together!
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What happens when nutrition, philanthropy, and sustainability stop working in silos and start working together? In this episode, host Emma Cox sits down with Sarah Ludmer, Chief Wellbeing and Sustainable Business Officer at WK Kellogg Co.
Sarah shares how a decade as a clinical dietitian and years in nutrition and regulatory work at Kellogg prepared her for what came next. When Kellogg split into two companies, she pitched a brand-new role that would bring all three areas together under one leader. Emma and Sarah talk through how that role evolved into one with a seat at both the corporate and commercial tables, and the challenges along the way. We also get a look inside the creation of Feeding Happiness, a sustainable business platform built from the ground up when WK Kellogg Co spun off from Kellogg and became its own company.
Learn why Sarah believes this integrated approach makes prioritization easier, and how every initiative ties back to commercial goals while still delivering on the platform’s pillars of making eating well easy, helping kids be their best, and bettering communities.
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Episode Resources
WK Kellogg Co’s Impact: https://www.wkkellogg.com/our-impact 

Making Eating Well Easy: https://www.wkkellogg.com/our-impact/make-eating-well-easy 

Help Kids Be Their Best: https://www.wkkellogg.com/our-impact/help-kids-be-their-best 

Better Our Communities: https://www.wkkellogg.com/our-impact/better-our-communities 

Connect with Sarah Ludmer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahludmer/ 

Connect with Emma Cox: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmagillespiecox/ 

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About ESG Decoded
ESG Decoded, powered by ClimeCo, is a podcast for business leaders navigating sustainability, innovation, and the evolving expectations shaping organizations today.
Hosted by Emma Cox, Erika Schiller, and Anna Stablum, the show features candid conversations with sustainability leaders and subject-matter experts across industries. Each episode cuts through the noise to explore the ideas, challenges, and actions moving sustainability forward—giving listeners practical insights to turn ambition into meaningful impact.
ESG Decoded Resource Links 
Site: https://www.climeco.com/podcast-series/

Apple Podcasts: https://go.climeco.com/ApplePodcasts

Spotify: https://go.climeco.com/Spotify

YouTube Music: https://go.climeco.com/YouTube-Music

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/esg-decoded/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/esgdecoded/
*This episode was produced by Singing Land Studio 

About ClimeCo
ClimeCo is an award-winning leader in decarbonization, empowering global organizations with customized sustainability pathways. Our respected scientists and industry experts collaborate with companies, governments, and capital markets to develop tailored ESG and decarbonization solutions. Recognized for creating high-quality, impactful projects, ClimeCo is committed to helping clients achieve their goals, maximize environmental assets, and enhance their brand.
ClimeCo Resource Links
Site: https://climeco.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/climeco/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/climeco/

Filmed live at Climate Week NYC 2026, our second annual ESG Decoded x Climate Week NYC video series features candid conversations with chief sustainability officers (CSOs) driving change. See how business strategy, climate innovation, and collaboration come together to create impact—and discover real-world insights you can put into action within your own sphere of influence.
 
Stay tuned for more episodes from the series. For now, let’s decode ESG together!
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Some of the most useful perspectives in sustainability come from people who have sat on many different sides of the table. In our first episode of the 2nd annual ESG Decoded x Climate Week NYC video series, host Emma Cox sits down with Stewart Lindsay, SVP & Chief Sustainability Officer at The Campbell's Company.

Stewart shares how a love of history, a childhood in Florida, and a career that began in communications led him to sustainability, and why he believes nature deserves a bigger place in how we value food and farming. Their conversation unpacks what it takes to drive change inside a 150-year-old company, how Campbell's ties sustainability goals to its enterprise scorecard, and how its regenerative agriculture work is guided by the farmers. 

Learn why collaboration between companies, NGOs, and farmers is essential to advancing this work, how consumer awareness of where food comes from is growing, and why Stewart believes sustainability leaders need to be "persistent optimists" during a year of shifting priorities. 

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Episode Resources
The Campbell’s Company Impact: https://www.thecampbellscompany.com/our-impact/reports-and-policies/ 

Campbell’s Grower Grants: Regenerative agriculture in action: https://www.thecampbellscompany.com/newsroom/sustainability/campbells-grower-grants-regenerative-agriculture-in-action/ 

Connect with Stewart Lindsay: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stewartlindsay/ 

Connect with Emma Cox: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmagillespiecox/ 

 
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About ESG Decoded ESG Decoded, powered by ClimeCo, is a podcast for business leaders navigating sustainability, innovation, and the evolving expectations shaping organizations today.
Hosted by Emma Cox, Erika Schiller, and Anna Stablum, the show features candid conversations with sustainability leaders and subject-matter experts across industries. Each episode cuts through the noise to explore the ideas, challenges, and actions moving sustainability forward—giving listeners practical insights to turn ambition into meaningful impact.

ESG Decoded Resource Links 
Site: https://www.climeco.com/podcast-series/

Apple Podcasts: https://go.climeco.com/ApplePodcasts

Spotify: https://go.climeco.com/Spotify

YouTube Music: https://go.climeco.com/YouTube-Music

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/esg-decoded/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/esgdecoded/
*This episode was produced by Singing Land Studio 

About ClimeCo
ClimeCo is an award-winning leader in decarbonization, empowering global organizations with customized sustainability pathways. Our respected scientists and industry experts collaborate with companies, governments, and capital markets to develop tailored ESG and decarbonization solutions. Recognized for creating high-quality, impactful projects, ClimeCo is committed to helping clients achieve their goals, maximize environmental assets, and enhance their brand.

ClimeCo Resource Links
Site: https://climeco.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/climeco/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/climeco/

In this special live episode of ESG Decoded, recorded before an audience at The Nest Campus during Climate Week NYC 2026, host Emma Cox speaks with two leaders shaping how globally recognized brands communicate sustainability. 
Assile Beydoun, Global Sustainability Director for Communications, Partnerships, and Advocacy at Procter & Gamble, brings more than 16 years of experience working across P&G brands, regions, and functions. Her work connects P&G with NGOs, innovation partners, and industry groups—bringing external perspectives into the business while sharing lessons beyond it.
Chris Gaither, Head of Sustainability Engagement and Storytelling at General Motors, has spent more than two decades leading global programs and advising senior executives at organizations including Apple, Google, and the Los Angeles Times. He also brings experience as a leadership and communications coach.
As companies face rising scrutiny of climate commitments, ESG claims, and sustainability marketing, the question is not simply whether to speak up or stay quiet. It is how to communicate with evidence, relevance, and accountability. 
Emma, Assile, and Chris discuss:
How to lead sustainability communications with proof

How to adapt one sustainability narrative for employees, customers, investors, policymakers, and other audiences

Why transparency about delayed targets and imperfect progress can build trust

When the strongest sustainability story is not framed as a sustainability story at all

The sustainability communications phrases that signal credibility, and the ones that should raise red flags

Listen for practical guidance on communicating sustainability efforts without greenwashing, earning stakeholder trust, and turning complex progress into stories people can understand and act on.
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Episode Resources
The Rockefeller Foundation: Climate Support Strong Across Leading Democracies, But Words Matter: https://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/news/new-potential-energy-study-commissioned-by-rockefeller-foundation-climate-support-strong-across-democracies-but-words-matter/ 

Anthesis Group’s Report - Hugging the Bear: https://www.anthesisgroup.com/insights/hugging-the-bear/ 

P&G Accelerates Action on Climate Change Toward Net Zero GHG Emissions by 2040: https://us.pg.com/blogs/net-zero-by-2040/ 

P&G 2026 TCFD Report: https://s204.q4cdn.com/332108499/files/doc_downloads/2026/09/02/PG_TCFD_Report_2026_R2.pdf

General Motor’s Sustainability: https://www.gm.com/impact/sustainability 

 
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About ESG Decoded ESG Decoded, powered by ClimeCo, is a podcast for business leaders navigating sustainability, innovation, and the evolving expectations shaping organizations today.
Hosted by Emma Cox, Erika Schiller, and Anna Stablum, the show features candid conversations with sustainability leaders and subject-matter experts across industries. Each episode cuts through the noise to explore the ideas, challenges, and actions moving sustainability forward—giving listeners practical insights to turn ambition into meaningful impact.
ESG Decoded Resource Links 
Site:  https://www.climeco.com/podcast-series/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/esg-decoded/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/esgdecoded/
*This episode was produced by Singing Land Studio 

About ClimeCo
ClimeCo is an award-winning leader in decarbonization, empowering global organizations with customized sustainability pathways. Our respected scientists and industry experts collaborate with companies, governments, and capital markets to develop tailored ESG and decarbonization solutions. Recognized for creating high-quality, impactful projects, ClimeCo is committed to helping clients achieve their goals, maximize environmental assets, and enhance their brand.

That small green leaf next to certain Amazon products may be doing more work than shoppers realize. 
Emma Cox is joined by Dr. Sherry He, Assistant Professor of Marketing at Michigan State University, to unpack her research on Amazon’s Climate Pledge Friendly program. Her findings show that sustainability labels were associated with a 13–14% average increase in product demand—but the reason may not be what brands, retailers, or consumers expect. 
The lift did not come from Amazon’s search algorithm or from shoppers actively filtering for more sustainable products. Instead, Dr. He explains what may be happening at the point of purchase, when a credible sustainability signal appears alongside a product.
In this episode, learn:
Which sustainability labels showed no measurable demand lift—including one of Amazon’s own.

The two product characteristics associated with a stronger consumer response.

Why credible third-party certification could become even more important as AI increasingly shapes product discovery and purchasing decisions.

What brands, sellers, retailers, and certification organizations can take from the findings.

If you buy, make, sell, market, or certify products, this episode offers a practical look at when sustainability claims can influence demand—and when they may not.
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Episode Resources
Harvard Business Review - Research: Products Labeled as Sustainable Sell Better: https://hbr.org/2025/06/research-products-labeled-as-sustainable-sell-better 

Do Judge a Product by Its Sustainability Label: Evidence from the Amazon Marketplace: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5009666# 

Amazon Climate Pledge Friendly:  https://www.aboutamazon.com/planet/climate-pledge 

Stand Out on Amazon as ClimeCo Certified™ Product: https://www.climeco.com/stand-out-on-amazon-as-a-climeco-certified-product/ 

Disclaimer: This episode was recorded in May 2026. It references the Harvard Business Review article, “Research: Products Labeled as Sustainable Sell Better,” published in June 2025, and the paper “Do Judge a Product by Its Sustainability Label: Evidence from the Amazon Marketplace,” originally published in November 2024. Please note that findings, market conditions, and related developments may have changed since those publication dates. 
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About ESG Decoded
ESG Decoded, powered by ClimeCo, is a podcast for business leaders navigating sustainability, innovation, and the evolving expectations shaping organizations today.
Hosted by Emma Cox, Erika Schiller, and Anna Stablum, the show features candid conversations with sustainability leaders and subject-matter experts across industries. Each episode cuts through the noise to explore the ideas, challenges, and actions moving sustainability forward—giving listeners practical insights to turn ambition into meaningful impact.
ESG Decoded Resource Links 
Site:  https://www.climeco.com/podcast-series/

Apple Podcasts: https://go.climeco.com/ApplePodcasts

Spotify: https://go.climeco.com/Spotify

YouTube Music: https://go.climeco.com/YouTube-Music

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/esg-decoded/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/esgdecoded/
*This episode was produced by Singing Land Studio 

About ClimeCoClimeCo is an award-winning leader in decarbonization, empowering global organizations with customized sustainability pathways. Our respected scientists and industry experts collaborate with companies, governments, and capital markets to develop tailored ESG and decarbonization solutions. Recognized for creating high-quality, impactful projects, ClimeCo is committed to helping clients achieve their goals, maximize environmental assets, and enhance their brand.
ClimeCo Resource Links
Site: https://climeco.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/climeco/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/climeco/