Song Revolution with John Chisum

• JOHN CHISUM: The Power of Knowing Styles & Genres

  Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3   Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich   Episode Title: The Power of Knowing Styles & Genres   Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich dive deep into one of the most important (and often confusing) parts of being a songwriter or artist: understanding your genre and style. This discussion is packed with practical insights for anyone who has ever wondered, "What kind of music do I actually make?"   Using real examples from the NCS Collective—including music from artists like Nikki Lou, Howard Gripp, Eauclaire, and Coby James—John and Bryant explore how genre and style influence songwriting, production, and artist development. Plus, they offer guidance for identifying your unique artistic voice, no matter where you are in your journey.   What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The difference between genre and style—and why it matters How artists like Nikki Lou and Eau Claire found their signature sound Why knowing your favorite music is a powerful clue to your own style How the NCS Collective is empowering real people to make real music Tips for choosing the right producer or direction for your songs The importance of letting the song guide the production   Key Moments: [03:00] – Christian music's wide range: from worship to folk to hip-hop [07:57] – The story behind launching the NCS Collective [13:00] – Producing Howard Gripp’s debut rock/CCM music [15:25] – How Nikki Lou’s grief journey birthed powerful bluegrass/folk songs [23:00] – A listen to Kobe James’ modern pop worship track Mighty God [26:40] – Bryant shares Eauclaire’s evolving sound: cinematic, folk, indie rock [34:00] – Highlighting Collective artists: Jay Davids, Bonnie Barbay, Ezra Worship, Anya Lee [35:30] – How to find your style: Let the song—and your heart—lead   Featured Music in this Episode: Million Tears and Valley of Shadow and Light by Nikki Lou Mighty God by Coby James Grow and Faith Is the Bird by Eauclaire   Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025   Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!  https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/   NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/   Connect With Us: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com   Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!

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• ADRIAN THOMPSON: Bethel Exec on Miracles and Music

  Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Guest: Adrian Thompson (Head of A&R, Bethel Music) Episode Title: Adrian Thompson: Bethel Exec on Miracles and Music   Episode Summary: In this thought-provoking episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with Adrian Thompson, the Head of A&R at Bethel Music and former VP of A&R at Integrity Music. They discuss the impact of Bethel Music on modern worship, the controversy surrounding charismatic expressions of faith, and the process of developing and signing artists at Bethel.   Adrian shares insights into how Bethel identifies new talent, the songwriting process behind their music, and the biblical foundation of their songs. He also opens up about his own spiritual journey, moving from a Presbyterian background to encountering the Holy Spirit, and how that experience continues to shape his work in music ministry today.   If you've ever wondered how worship music is shaped, how A&R works at a major worship label, or why some churches criticize charismatic worship, this episode is for you!   What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How Bethel Music discerns and develops new artists The role of A&R in shaping worship music for the global church Addressing the controversies surrounding Bethel’s theology & worship style Why Bethel cross-references song lyrics with Scripture before release The importance of community, mentorship, and authenticity in worship music How songs go from demo to finished album at Bethel Key Moments: [02:26] – Adrian Thompson’s journey: From Presbyterian roots to charismatic faith [05:54] – Addressing the controversy around Bethel & charismatic worship [10:15] – Miracles, gold dust, and why supernatural experiences divide the church [17:06] – How Bethel Music ensures theological soundness in worship songs [23:17] – The role of A&R in selecting and refining worship songs [27:45] – What it takes to become a Bethel Music artist [31:29] – The UK worship movement & its influence on global worship [36:12] – Advice for songwriters who feel called to write for the church   Resources & Links: Listen to Bethel Music’s latest releases https://bethelmusic.com/ Follow Bethel Music on Instagram – @bethelmusic   Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025   Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!  https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/   NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/   Connect With Us: www.NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com   Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!

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• JOHN CHISUM: Building Your Creative Team

  Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3   Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich   Episode Title: Building Your Creative Team   Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich explore one of the most important factors in a songwriter’s success—building a strong creative team. While many songwriters start out alone, no artist truly succeeds in isolation. It takes producers, mentors, collaborators, and a solid support network to bring music to life and get it heard.   John and Bryant break down the essential roles in a songwriter's journey—from crafting a great song to recording, production, marketing, and promotion. They also share real-life success stories from NCS artists who went from dreaming about music to making an impact with their songs.   If you’re a songwriter who feels stuck doing everything alone, this episode will show you how to build a team and move forward with confidence!   What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why every songwriter needs a team to succeed How to find producers, co-writers, and collaborators The essential roles in the music-making process—from idea to release The difference between DIY production and professional studio recordings How marketing and social media can make or break your song’s success Real-life examples of NCS artists thriving with the right team   Key Moments: [03:20] – Why community is the key to success in music [06:33] – Breaking down the songwriting and production process [10:26] – The roles of producers, engineers, and session musicians [15:39] – The power of marketing and why artists must promote themselves [18:42] – Social media tips for songwriters and independent artists [24:16] – How a strong vision helps attract the right team [30:00] – How NCS can help you connect with the right people   Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025   Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!  https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/   NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/   Connect With Us: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com   Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!

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• JARED ANDERSON & Kelly Wilkerson: Worship, Community, and Legacy with 11:21 Worship

  Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3   Host: John Chisum   Guests: Jared Anderson & Kelly Wilkerson (11:21 Worship)   Episode Title: Worship, Community, and Legacy with 11:21 Worship   Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes Jared Anderson (writer of Great I Am, Rescue, Lord, I’m Amazed) and Kelly Wilkerson of 11:21 Worship to talk about the power of worship, legacy, and ministry.   Kelly shares the incredible history of World Challenge and Teen Challenge, founded by her father-in-law, David Wilkerson, and how their global ministry continues to impact lives today. She also opens up about her family’s personal struggles with addiction and how they’ve experienced God’s faithfulness through it all.   Jared Anderson, known for his work with New Life Church and Desperation Band, discusses his transition from a solo worship career to leading 11:21 Worship and how their team is writing music to serve the church and inspire generations.   The episode also highlights 11:21 Worship’s powerful new version of the classic song “Rise Again”, originally made famous by Dallas Holm over 47 years ago.   What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The history of Teen Challenge & World Challenge—a ministry impacting lives for over 60 years How Jared Anderson transitioned from solo worship to leading 11:21 Worship The importance of writing music for your specific ministry & audience Kelly’s personal testimony of family addiction and God’s healing The story behind the new 11:21 Worship version of “Rise Again” The power of multi-generational worship leadership   Key Moments: [02:49] – The story of Teen Challenge & World Challenge’s global impact [07:05] – How David Wilkerson led Nikki Cruz to Christ & started a movement [13:22] – Kelly’s personal journey with addiction in her family [19:17] – Jared’s transition from Desperation Band to 11:21Worship [29:47] – Why 11:21Worship is creating new music for a new generation [33:06] – The message behind the song “At Your Table” [36:12] – Reimagining “Rise Again”—bringing a classic song to today’s worshippers [39:52] – Encouragement for songwriters & worship leaders   Resources & Links: Listen to 11:21Worship’s new music - https://www.1121worship.com/ Follow 11:21Worship on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/1121worship/ World Challenge Ministries - https://www.worldchallenge.org/   Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025   Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!  https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/   NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/   Connect With Us: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com   Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!

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• JOHN CHISUM: Creating In Community

    Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3   Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich   Episode Title: Creating In Community   Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich dive into one of the most essential aspects of songwriting success—creating in community. Many songwriters struggle with Lonely Songwriter Syndrome (LSS), feeling isolated in their creative process. But thriving as a songwriter requires connection, collaboration, and honest feedback.   John and Bryant discuss the benefits of having a creative support system, how co-writing can elevate your music, and why real-world feedback is necessary for growth. Plus, they break down three practical ways to find or build your own songwriting community, whether locally or online.   What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why creating alone can slow down your songwriting growth How community helps refine your songwriting through feedback The importance of co-writing and finding creative partners How to find or start a songwriting group in your church or city Three practical ways to build your creative community today   Key Moments: [01:26] – The challenge of songwriting in isolation [03:53] – What is Lonely Songwriter Syndrome (LSS)? [06:30] – Why it’s hard to be objective about your own songs [09:34] – The power of collaboration and creative partnerships [15:49] – Biblical foundation: God designed us for community [21:36] – Three ways to find or create your own songwriting group [25:45] – How NCS Community can accelerate your growth [32:23] – The biggest benefits of joining NCS Community   Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025   Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!  https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/   NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/   Connect With Us: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com   Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!

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