Switched on Pop

• Justin Bieber's Lo-fi Bedroom Swag

  Justin Bieber is back with his seventh studio album: the aptly-titled SWAG. The lo-fi, reverb-laden record is a remarkably candid look inside the world of Bieber, using the palette of both underground pop and 90's R&B to accentuate lyrics about his wife, his struggles, and his "standing on business." Notably, it's his first album post-split with manager Scooter Braun, and the first where Bieber has been in full artistic control. On this episode of Switched On Pop, we tap into the SWAG mindset and attempt to understand Bieber's newfound vision, what it's saying, and ultimately, if it even still matters. Songs discussed: Justin Bieber – DAISIES Justin Bieber, Daniel Caesar, Giveon – Peaches Justin Bieber, Sexyy Red – SWEET SPOT The Kid LAROI, Justin Bieber – STAY Justin Bieber, Druski – STANDING ON BUSINESS Justin Bieber – ALL I CAN TAKE Peter Gabriel – In Your Eyes Justin Bieber – GO BABY Justin Bieber – TOO LONG Justin Bieber, Gunna – WAY IT IS Justin Bieber, Dominic Fike – Die For You Justin Bieber, Burna Boy – Loved By You Justin Bieber, Lil B – DADZ LOVE Mk.gee – Alesis Mk.gee – Are You Looking Up Dijon – The Dress Justin Bieber – WALKING AWAY Haim – Don't Wanna Justin Bieber, Dijon – DEVOTION Justin Bieber – One Less Lonely Girl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• How podcasting got its sound ft. Breakmaster Cylinder

  What if the entire sound of modern podcasting can be traced back to a single Grateful Dead song uploaded in 2001? We uncover the musical lineage that connects NPR's classical gravitas to dubstep wobbles, from the very first RSS feed experiment to the mysterious masked composer who's scored over 200 podcast themes and shaped what millions of people hear when they hit play. This deep dive reveals how podcast music evolved from classical public radio strings into today's signature blend of plinking pianos, breakbeats, and irreverent sampling—plus an exclusive interview with the enigmatic Breakmaster Cylinder, the "Hans Zimmer of podcasting" who's been hiding behind a robot helmet for over a decade. MORE Subscribe to our newsletter SONGS DISCUSSED Grateful Dead "Truckin'" Adam Curry "Daily Source Code" theme NPR "All Things Considered" theme Don Voegeli "All Things Considered" original theme (1971) Don Voegeli "All Things Considered" jazz funk version (1976) NPR "All Things Considered" orchestral version (1983/1995) The Daily theme WNYC "On the Media" theme by Ben Allison "Disposable Genius" Christopher Lydon "Radio Open Source" theme by Dafnis Prieto Disparition "The Ballad of Fiedler and Mundt," (Welcome to Night Vale theme) Serial theme Joe Rogan Experience theme Call Her Daddy theme Snap Judgment theme The Breakfast Club theme WTF with Marc Maron theme by John Montagna "Lock the Gate" Reply All theme by Breakmaster Cylinder Breakmaster Cylinder "Outside In" theme Breakmaster Cylinder "Bird Note" (Claire de Lune with loon calls) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• Is that new song you like AI? Here’s how you can tell

  The robots have arrived, and they're making protest songs about boots on the ground. When an AI band called The Velvet Sundown fooled over a million Spotify listeners with their psychedelic folk anthems, it raised an unsettling question: have the machines gotten so good we can no longer hear the difference? Charlie puts Nate to the test with a game of "AI or Human?" featuring Wu-Tang deepfakes, phantom instruments, and songs that sound like Dire Straits and Tom Petty had a baby. Along the way, they uncover the five telltale signs that expose artificial music, from juvenile rhyming patterns to voices that shapeshift between tracks. But here's the terrifying part: just six months ago, AI music was unlistenable chaos. Now it's disturbingly competent. And it's only getting better. Songs Discussed The Velvet Sundown - "Dust on the Wind" Post Malone - "Chemical" Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - "Ohio" The Velvet Sundown - "Freedom Song" Kansas - "Dust in the Wind" The Animals - "House of the Rising Sun" Creedence Clearwater Revival - "Have You Ever Seen the Rain?" The Velvet Sundown - "Where War Remains" Pink Floyd - "Wish You Were Here" The Velvet Sundown - "Ash and Velvet" Buffalo Springfield - "For What It's Worth" The Velvet Sundown - "For the Ones We Couldn't Keep" The Velvet Sundown - "Mirrors in the Smoke" Pink Floyd - "Breathe" The Velvet Sundown - "Rebel Shout" The Velvet Sundown - "Smoke in Silence" The Velvet Sundown - "Marching Shadows" The Velvet Sundown - "As the Silence Falls" The Velvet Sundown - "How Did This Go Wrong?" Hip Hop Intelligence - "Bar Fight" (AI Wu-Tang) Hip Hop Intelligence - "Party with Me" (AI Eminem) Temple of the Acid Fist Records - "Woman Gone Blues" (AI) "Echoes of Twilight" (AI student example) The Velvet Underground - "Sweet Jane" "Whispers of Chaos" (Charlie's AI generation) Mungo Jerry - "In the Summertime" Almost Vinyl - "Phil Wildo's Door to Door Dildos" (AI) Joey Two Legs - "I Shouldn't Have Done That" (hybrid) Bill Evans AI track (untitled, by Nobody in the Computer) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• The Benson Boone-Doggle

  In which we explore the unlikely rise, and surprising backlash against, one Benson Boone. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• Can Recession Pop predict the market?

  Why does the economy look great on paper but feel terrible in your wallet? There might be a more revealing economic indicator hiding in your Spotify queue. "Recession Pop" first emerged during the Great Recession and exploded into playlists, radio formats, and DJ sets in 2024. From melancholy indie anthems to escapist dance tracks, the songs we gravitate toward during uncertain times might predict where the economy is headed next. Host Jonquilin Hill explores this musical phenomenon on Vox's "Explain it To Me," with Charlie joining in the second half to decode what our streaming habits reveal about financial anxiety and economic forecasting. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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