Conversations

Professor George Williams was uninterested in school, instead spending his time melting down lead to sell to a nearby scrap yard. Then a special primary school teacher gave him permanent detention, which changed his life.
Growing up in Sydney, he was the rebellious child of a single mum who worked in a fruit shop to support the family.
George was so disruptive at primary school that no teacher wanted him in class.
At first he was flabbergasted at the unfairness of this punishment, but with this teacher’s undivided attention, George began to enjoy learning and found that he was smart.
His grades improved, and George became interested in studying Law.
He has had a long career in Constitutional Law and working in university leadership.
This episode was produced by Alice Moldovan. The Executive Producer is Nicola Harrison.
It explores tertiary education, international students, online learning, lectures, tutorials, the casual workforce, academics, higher learning, lifelong learning, sandstone universities, student debt, HECS, affordable learning and poverty.
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Brisbane teacher and author, Sita Walker on the strong, religious matriarchs who have helped her weather the storm of family tragedy, divorce and the beauty of a new love.
Sita grew up in Toowoomba in Queensland, descended from five powerful women — three aunts, her grandmother and her mum.
They were Baha’i women who came to Australia via Iran and India.
Tragedy struck the family when Sita was a child, and her matriarchs descended on the home — to cook, clean, and comfort.
Sita always saw herself as good Baha’i girl, and she went on to marry a good Baha’i boy and start a family. 
When things started to unravel, Sita found herself drifting away from her nightly prayers and accounting for her deeds, and it took a divorce and a new love for her to admit to herself, and her parents, how things had changed.
This episode was produced by Alice Moldovan. The Executive Producer was Nicola Harrison.
It explores faith, grief, religion, Baha'i, grandmothering, losing a sibling, evil eye, Queenslander, youth camp, marrying young, nightly prayers, falling in love, leaving religion, girl dinner, fiction writing, being a teacher, high school teacher, Mary Oliver and poetry.
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Rob Hirst, the former drummer for the band Midnight Oil has died at age 70. In 2018 Sarah sat down with Rob for a wide-ranging conversation about music, nature and reconnecting with family (R)

Melissa Lucashenko grew up on the outskirts of Brisbane, where her Aboriginal mother grew plants and her Russian father built an improbable number of sheds in the backyard. 
Melissa worked as a motorcycle detailer, a house painter, a prison advocate, and a game show contestant before finding her way as a writer. 
Her novel, Edenglassie, imagines life in colonial Brisbane in the 1850s. 
In it, she tells the story of the Aboriginal warrior Dundalli who was the last man to be publicly executed in Queensland. 
But Melissa also explores contemporary Brisbane, highlighting what she calls the "double vision" of Aboriginal people.
Edenglassie is published by the University of Queensland Press.
This episode of Conversations was produced by Nicola Harrison. Executive Producer is Carmel Rooney.
It explores colonial Brisbane, Indigenous history and culture, Russian culture, Edenglassie, karate, prison reform, writing, Aboriginal warrior Dundalli, game show contestant, reality tv, house painter, public execution, 1850s Brisbane, history, mixed race families, growing up mixed race.
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Kate Rowe's life has been full of wild adventures and hard living. But when she found sobriety, Kate discovered something big about herself. CW: This story contains discussion of childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault and some strong language. Please take care when listening.
Ever since she stepped off the boat at Circular Quay as a 20-something 10-pound Pom, Kate has run fearlessly toward outrageous adventure.
As a young woman Kate travelled around Australia picking tobacco, hitchhiking and sometimes spent her weekends running riot in Kings Cross.
Then in 1974, she tagged along with some random guys she’d met who wanted to walk across the island of Timor. 
From there, Kate ventured into South-East Asia, where she began smuggling bricks of cannabis from Thailand into Nepal.
But everywhere she went, Kate took herself with her, and so all kinds of baggage from her early life came along for the wild ride.
Eventually a cloud lifted, and when Kate found sobriety she realised something big about herself.
Content Warning: This story contains discussion of childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault and some strong language. Please take care when listening.
How the F*ck Would I Know is published by Power Writers Publishing Group and can be found online.
This episode of Conversations was produced by Meggie Morris. Executive Producer is Nicola Harrison.
It explores trauma, healing, recovery, England, London, disordered eating, eating disorder recovery, substance abuse, addiction, drug trafficking, drug dealing, heroin, opium, alcohol, alcoholism, addiction recovery, therapy, counselling, sexuality, LGBTQI+, queer community, Mardi Gras, 1978, lesbian, women's Lib.
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