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2025 and beyond: DePIN's role in the next crypto wave
Dive into the future of decentralized infrastructure with Elisha Owusu Akyaw and Fluence Labs CEO Tom Trowbridge on this episode of Hashing It Out. Discover how DePIN (Decentralized Physical Infrastructure Networks) disrupts centralized giants, enables real-world utility and shapes blockchain's next frontier. Tom unpacks the challenges, opportunities and innovations driving Fluence Labs and the broader DePIN ecosystem, offering a compelling vision for 2025 and beyond.(00:03) Introduction to Tom Trowbridge and DePIN(01:24) Tom’s Journey into Web3 and DePIN(03:26) What is DePIN? A Clear Definition(05:20) Is DePIN a Meme or a Game-Changer?(08:26) Why Fluence Labs? Tackling Centralization in the Cloud(11:53) How Decentralization Enhances Security and Scalability(13:42) Marketing DePIN: Product First, Crypto Second(19:27) Role of Tokens in DePIN Projects(23:28) DePIN Use Cases: What Excites Tom Most?(27:07) Lessons Learned from Building in DePIN(28:58) What’s Next for Fluence and DePIN in 2025?(30:32) Closing RemarksFollow Tom Trowbridge on X: @TheTomTrowFollow Cointelegraph on X: @CointelegraphFollow the host on X: @ghcryptoguy, or connect with him on LinkedIn: Elisha (GhCryptoGuy)Cointelegraph’s website: cointelegraph.comThe views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this podcast are its participants’ alone and do not necessarily reflect or represent the views and opinions of Cointelegraph. This podcast (and any related content) is for entertainment purposes only and does not constitute financial advice, nor should it be taken as such. Everyone must do their own research and make their own decisions. The podcast’s participants may or may not own any of the assets mentioned.
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Are NFTs dead? RARI Chain's Jana Bertram says they’re just evolving
In this episode of Hashing It Out, host Elisha Owusu Akyaw chats with Jana Bertram, Head of Strategy at Rari Foundation, to explore the current state and future of nonfungible tokens (NFTs). Together they discuss the challenges and opportunities in the NFT space, including the impact of royalties, scalability, and adoption in real-world applications. Jana also reflects on her journey into Web3 and shares insights into how NFTs evolve beyond the speculative market to support diverse use cases such as digital identity and asset ownership. The conversation also examines other shifting dynamics of the NFT ecosystem and its broader implications for the blockchain industry.00:00 – Introduction01:34 – Are NFTs Really Dead?03:05 – Real-World Asset Tokenization06:21 – Jana’s Journey into Web309:26 – Rethinking Royalties in the NFT Space13:53 – Why Launch a Custom Chain?15:45 – Scalability and Affordability18:07 – Decentralization and Security19:22 – Barriers to NFT Growth21:05 – The Future of NFTs22:16 – Clarifying Rari Foundation and Rari Chain24:26 – What’s Next for Rari and NFTs?25:23 – Closing RemarksThis episode of Hashing It Out is brought to you by Cointelegraph and hosted by Elisha Owusu AKyaw, produced by Savannah Fortis with post-production by Elena Volkova (Hatch Up).Follow Cointelegraph on X @Cointelegraph.Follow this episode’s host, Elisha Owusu AKyaw (GhCryptoGuy), on X at @ghcryptoguy.Follow Jana on X at @yannauCheck out Cointelegraph at cointelegraph.com.If you like what you heard, rate us and leave a review!The views, thoughts and opinions expressed in this podcast are the participants’ alone and do not necessarily reflect or represent the views and opinions of Cointelegraph. This podcast (and any related content) is for entertainment purposes only and does not constitute financial advice, nor should it be taken as such. Everyone must do their own research and make their own decisions. The podcast’s participants may or may not own any of the assets mentioned.Follow Cointelegraph on X: @CointelegraphFollow the host on X: @ghcryptoguy, or connect with him on LinkedIn: Elisha (GhCryptoGuy)Cointelegraph’s website: cointelegraph.comThe views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this podcast are its participants’ alone and do not necessarily reflect or represent the views and opinions of Cointelegraph. This podcast (and any related content) is for entertainment purposes only and does not constitute financial advice, nor should it be taken as such. Everyone must do their own research and make their own decisions. The podcast’s participants may or may not own any of the assets mentioned.
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Understanding the power of crypto cash-back rewards with Moso co-founder Blake Capozza
In this episode of Hashing It Out, host Elisha Owusu Akyaw chats with Blake Capozza, the co-founder of crypto rewards platform Moso, about revolutionizing the shopping experience through crypto cashback rewards. Learn more about how Web3 is changing the way people spend their money, how shops can incentivize customers via rewards and what this means for cryptocurrency adoption in the greater scheme. (00:03 - 00:20) Intro: crypto cashback and its potential(01:45 - 00:02:16) Blake's journey (3:00 - 03:46) The rise and fall of crypto cashback(03:51 - 04:18) Earning crypto while shopping(04:18 - 06:43) Enterprise and consumer perspectives(06:43 - 08:03) The crypto native advantage(08:03 - 09:56) User experience and chain abstraction(09:56 - 11:35) The challenges of onboarding (12:50 - 14:07) Navigating the regulatory landscape(14:22 - 19:21) The future of crypto cashbackThis episode of Hashing It Out is brought to you by Cointelegraph and hosted by Elisha Owusu AKyaw, produced by Savannah Fortis with post-production by Elena Volkova (Hatch Up).Follow Cointelegraph on X @Cointelegraph.Follow this episode’s host, Elisha Owusu AKyaw (GhCryptoGuy), on X at @ghcryptoguy.Follow Blake Capozza on X @lablakers24Check out Cointelegraph at cointelegraph.com.If you like what you heard, rate us and leave a review!The views, thoughts and opinions expressed in this podcast are the participants’ alone and do not necessarily reflect or represent the views and opinions of Cointelegraph. This podcast (and any related content) is for entertainment purposes only and does not constitute financial advice, nor should it be taken as such. Everyone must do their own research and make their own decisions. The podcast’s participants may or may not own any of the assets mentioned.Follow Cointelegraph on X: @CointelegraphFollow the host on X: @ghcryptoguy, or connect with him on LinkedIn: Elisha (GhCryptoGuy)Cointelegraph’s website: cointelegraph.comThe views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this podcast are its participants’ alone and do not necessarily reflect or represent the views and opinions of Cointelegraph. This podcast (and any related content) is for entertainment purposes only and does not constitute financial advice, nor should it be taken as such. Everyone must do their own research and make their own decisions. The podcast’s participants may or may not own any of the assets mentioned.
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Data sovereignty in the age of blockchain with CESS co-founder
In this episode of Hashing It Out, Elisha Owusu Akyaw and Nicholas Zaldastani, co-founder and chairman of CESS, discuss the evolution of Web3, focusing on data sovereignty, privacy and the role of decentralized storage. Zaldastani shares his journey from Oracle to founding CESS Network, emphasizing the importance of data security in the blockchain era. The conversation explores various use cases, including NFTs and AI, and how blockchain technology addresses data censorship and storage efficiency challenges. (0:00) Introduction(1:34) Data sovereignty and privacy(3:38) Nicholas Zaldastani’s journey and CESS’s vision(13:41) Decentralized storage approach(18:40) AI and data infrastructure(23:14) CESS network and node structure(26:40) Data censorship and Web3 adoption(30:17) DeOS: Decentralized Object Storage Service(34:09) Driving Web3 adoptionThis episode of Hashing It Out is brought to you by Cointelegraph and hosted by Elisha Owusu AKyaw, produced by Savannah Fortis with post-production by Elena Volkova (Hatch Up).Follow Cointelegraph on X @Cointelegraph.Follow this episode’s host, Elisha Owusu AKyaw (GhCryptoGuy), on X at @ghcryptoguy.Follow Nicholas on X at @Nicholas_CESS Check out Cointelegraph at cointelegraph.com.If you like what you heard, rate us and leave a review!The views, thoughts and opinions expressed in this podcast are the participants’ alone and do not necessarily reflect or represent the views and opinions of Cointelegraph. This podcast (and any related content) is for entertainment purposes only and does not constitute financial advice, nor should it be taken as such. Everyone must do their own research and make their own decisions. The podcast’s participants may or may not own any of the assets mentioned.Follow Cointelegraph on X: @CointelegraphFollow the host on X: @ghcryptoguy, or connect with him on LinkedIn: Elisha (GhCryptoGuy)Cointelegraph’s website: cointelegraph.comThe views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this podcast are its participants’ alone and do not necessarily reflect or represent the views and opinions of Cointelegraph. This podcast (and any related content) is for entertainment purposes only and does not constitute financial advice, nor should it be taken as such. Everyone must do their own research and make their own decisions. The podcast’s participants may or may not own any of the assets mentioned.
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Breaking the oligopoly: Decentralized infrastructure with Fleek and Aethir
In this episode of Hashing It Out, host Elisha Owusu Akyaw (GhCryptoGuy) delves into the rapidly evolving world of decentralized physical infrastructure networks (DePIN) with Harrison Hines, CEO and co-founder of Fleek Network, and Kyle Okamoto, CTO of Aethir.They explore how DePIN reshapes industries by decentralizing access to resources such as GPUs and cloud infrastructure. The aim is to break the oligopoly of traditional cloud giants like AWS and Google.(00:03 - 01:30) - Introduction and Guest Introductions(06:36 - 09:17) - What is DePIN?(16:49 - 19:28) - DePIN vs. Traditional Cloud Computing(19:46 - 27:40) - Decentralization in DePIN(27:57 - 31:11) - Bringing Developers to DePIN(31:11 - 32:46) - Fleek Network's Unique Offering and Next.js App Hosting(34:10 - 38:14) - The Future of DePIN and Traditional Cloud Companies(38:14 - 39:31) - Challenges and Future of Ether(39:31 - 41:25) - Challenges and Future of Fleek NetworkFollow Cointelegraph on X: @CointelegraphFollow the host on X: @ghcryptoguy, or connect with him on LinkedIn: Elisha (GhCryptoGuy)Cointelegraph’s website: cointelegraph.comThe views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this podcast are its participants’ alone and do not necessarily reflect or represent the views and opinions of Cointelegraph. This podcast (and any related content) is for entertainment purposes only and does not constitute financial advice, nor should it be taken as such. Everyone must do their own research and make their own decisions. The podcast’s participants may or may not own any of the assets mentioned.
Hashing It Out is Cointelegraph’s technical crypto podcast, covering innovations, emerging technology and important stories from the blockchain industry. It features interviews with thought leaders in the space, focusing on BTC, Ethereum, altcoins and new technological advancements in the cryptocurrency industry.