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This is our full interview with Bill Bishop, recorded live on TBPN.
We discuss China’s accelerating PLA purges, what Xi Jinping is really trying to accomplish inside the military, the DJI ban, whether US regulation will stick, Taiwan arms sales and Trump’s upcoming China visit, China’s approach to AI and chips, and why Nvidia’s China sales remain such a messy geopolitical flashpoint.
TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to podcast platforms immediately after.
Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella.

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(11:59) - Super Bowl Ad Reactions

(57:18) - Ads Launch in ChatGPT

(01:15:44) - Jason Fried, co-founder and CEO of Basecamp, a web-based project management platform, is known for his minimalist approach to software design and advocacy for simplified business practices. In the conversation, he discusses Ferrari's upcoming electric vehicle, the Luce, focusing on its interior design collaboration with Jony Ive and the integration of tactile and digital elements. Fried expresses appreciation for the fresh approach but emphasizes the importance of cohesive design between a car's interior and exterior, noting that the overall success depends on how these elements harmonize.

(01:30:42) - Bill Bishop is a bilingual American entrepreneur and China expert who co-founded CBS MarketWatch in 1997 and later founded the Sinocism China Newsletter, providing in-depth analysis on Chinese affairs. In the conversation, he discusses the severe winter conditions in Washington, D.C., recent developments in U.S.-China relations, including military purges within the PLA, and the implications of AI advancements and chip sales between the two nations.

(02:01:51) - Jason Kelly, co-founder and CEO of Ginkgo Bioworks, discusses the evolution of laboratory automation, likening traditional manual lab work to early manual transportation methods, and highlights the role of AI in managing experimental variability. He emphasizes the potential of autonomous labs to democratize scientific research, enabling broader participation and accelerating innovation across various sectors. Kelly also addresses the importance of biosecurity measures and the need for responsible management of biotechnological advancements to mitigate potential risks.

(02:22:23) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions

(02:30:07) - Dan Romero, a seasoned professional with over a decade in the crypto industry, recently transitioned from his role at Farcaster to join Tempo, a purpose-built Layer 1 blockchain designed for stablecoin payments, incubated by Stripe and Paradigm. He discusses the significant potential for stablecoins, especially following the passage of the Genius Act, and emphasizes Tempo's focus on payments, highlighting partnerships with companies like DoorDash and Klarna. Romero also explores the integration of stablecoins with AI agents, suggesting that stablecoin rails could enable seamless, programmatic transactions for AI-driven services.

(02:43:52) - Boris Sofman, co-founder and CEO of Bedrock Robotics, discusses the development of autonomous technologies for heavy machinery to address labor shortages in industries like construction, mining, and agriculture. He explains that Bedrock's approach involves retrofitting existing equipment with sensor and compute systems to enable operatorless operation, enhancing productivity and safety. Sofman also highlights the challenges of electrifying construction equipment due to infrastructure limitations and emphasizes the potential of AI to revolutionize various sectors by integrating advanced autonomy and intelligence into physical industries.

(02:58:39) - Sara Hooker, co-founder of Adaption Labs and former VP of Research at Cohere, discusses her company's focus on developing AI systems capable of real-time, continuous learning without the need for costly retraining cycles. She emphasizes the importance of creating adaptable intelligence that evolves through real-world interaction, aiming to eliminate the reliance on prompt engineering and enhance efficiency across various domains. Hooker also highlights the recent $50 million seed funding secured by Adaption Labs, which will support their mission to build AI models that require less computing power and cost less to run than most leading systems.

(03:07:46) - Edward Mehr, CEO of Robocraftsman, discusses his company's development of versatile manufacturing robots capable of performing various metal operations, including sheet forming, welding, and assembly, to produce complex metal structures for industries like aerospace and automotive. He highlights the transition from technology development to scaling operations, with plans to establish larger facilities and expand capabilities to meet increasing demand. Mehr envisions a future where hardware manufacturing becomes as flexible and accessible as software development, enabling rapid customization and production without the need for traditional tooling.

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Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella.

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(01:05) - Chip Bottleneck vs. Energy Bottleneck

(16:12) - Amazon Plans Record $200B Capex

(29:31) - Inside the Search for Iger's Heir

(34:30) - TikTok Fuels "Dirty Soda" Craze

(46:25) - Anthropic Tanked the Software Market

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(01:29:31) - Doug O'Laughlin is a developer deeply engaged with Anthropic's AI coding assistant, Claude Code, utilizing it extensively in his daily workflow. He discusses the integration of Claude Code into GitHub, highlighting its role in automating tasks like drafting pull requests and code reviews, thereby enhancing developer productivity. Doug also explores the evolution of AI models, noting the rapid advancements in Claude's capabilities and their impact on software development practices.

(02:03:13) - Max Levchin, a Ukrainian-American software engineer and entrepreneur, co-founded PayPal in 1998 and currently serves as CEO of Affirm, a fintech company he founded in 2012. In the transcript, Levchin discusses Affirm's impressive 36% year-over-year growth in merchant sales volume, reaching approximately $1.1 billion in revenue for the quarter. He attributes this success to seasonal sales events like Black Friday and the rapid growth of the Affirm Card, which has seen 100% year-over-year growth across various metrics. Additionally, Levchin highlights the success of Affirm's self-created shopping holiday, "The Big Nothing," offering 0% APR deals without fine print, which significantly boosted their numbers.

(02:21:20) - TJ Parker is the co-founder and former CEO of PillPack, a pharmacy service acquired by Amazon in 2018, where he later served as Vice President of Health and Pharmacy until 2022. In the conversation, Parker discusses the controversy surrounding Hims' compounding of GLP-1 medications, highlighting the FDA's recent warning letter addressing safety and efficacy concerns. He also touches on the implications of the new Wegovy pill for the weight loss market and the potential impact of AI in healthcare, emphasizing the importance of integrating AI with comprehensive medical histories to enhance patient care.

(02:40:51) - Arsalan Tavakoli, co-founder and Senior Vice President of Field Engineering at Databricks, discusses the rapid evolution of AI, emphasizing that while technological advancements are significant, the real challenge lies in organizations learning to effectively deploy and utilize these tools to derive value. He highlights the importance of having a unified, governed data platform to support both small and large-scale data projects, noting that even seemingly simple tasks can quickly expand in complexity and data requirements. Tavakoli also underscores that, despite the proliferation of AI agents, many enterprises struggle to move beyond pilot phases to achieve meaningful production outcomes, often due to issues related to data quality, governance, and integration.

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