Talking Talmud

What if something happens to the animal designated for the thanksgiving sacrifice? The animal part of the sacrifice is the more significant part, where the loaves are ancillary to the offering. To the extent that even if the loaves were specifically designated, the loss is not considered too problematic. What if the loaves were designated first? Plus, back-up animals for the thanksgiving animals, and the question whether the back-ups requires the loaves to begin with. Also, should the surviving animals after a replacement is used or not used be offered on the altar or not? A mnemonic is used to make sense of challenges in the discussion.

A new mishnah - from the bottom of daf 78: What happens to the thanksgiving offering when there's an issue with the grain-offering part of it -- as compared to the animal part of it? Plus, the connection to the inauguration of Aaron and his sons as kohanim. With a focus on a dispute revolving around a blemished animal vs. the incorrect location for slaughtering, as issues that interfere. But is that even the right comparison? Plus, cataracts as the blemishes. Also, another mishnah: animal offerings together with libations - and the question of these accompaniments being problematic for whichever reason, and how they are left overnight to disqualify them. Note that replacement animals are sacrificed as well, just not as a thanksgiving sacrifice - once they've been designated to replace a korban todah.

A new mishnah - with a new discussion of a korban: miluim, the inaugural grain-offerings that were brought by Aaron and his sons. A second mishnah - when the kohen slaughters the thanksgiving offering in the proper place in the Temple courtyard, and the accompanying loaves were brought outside the place - with some dispute as to where that was - which means they were not consecrated.

Chapter 8, focusing on the korban todah, the thanksgiving offering - with a new mishnah. The amount of flour used for this grain-offering was 5 "Jerusalem se'ah" (or 6 "wilderness se'ah"). With all the concomitant conversions. Where the number of se'ah are then assessed for an eiphah, as measured in tenths of an eiphah. Plus, a discussion of the flour for the leavened loaves and for the unleavened loaves of different kinds. With sources in the Torah's verses. Also, deriving the key laws for these component parts of the todah offering.

2 mishnayot: 1 - All of the grain-offerings require 500 "rubbings" (between hands) and 300 "poundings" (in kneading, for example). With clear heritage of the knowledge, though it has essentially been lost now. 2- The measure of barley of the omer: one-tenth of a se'ah of barley - and the amounts of flour required for not only the omer, but also other grain-offerings. Including sifting the flour for each of them. Which leads into multiple rounds of sifting that is to be used in these holiday offerings.