Identical twins and performing songwriters The Yale Brothers came of age in Hollywood in the glory days of the late 1970s and early 1980s. This show tells the t...
Andrew Zimmern is likely best known to the general public for his Travel Channel shows “Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmern” and his Emmy-winning “The Zimmern List” But that’s just scratching the surface. He’s a renowned chef with bestselling books, media companies, shows, retail products, a retail food line and so much more. On February 13, Zimmern is set to speak at the Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series at Horry-Georgetown Technical College. He’s been sober since 1992 and remains active in the recovery and mental health communities. He serves on the boards of several recovery organizations. Roger has been covering series founder and organizer Casey King for many years and on various platforms. We also spoke to him on this podcast. The 2025 Addiction and Recovery Lecture series is installment number 18. Unfortunately, this will be the last. Casey’s wrapping things up and will also be retiring next year. For more information about the series, click HERE. We were thrilled to have Chef Zimmern on the show: SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "What Might Have Been" by Chris Yale 3:42 - Greetings and about the song 4:12 - Casey King / HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / 18th and final installment / Casey's longstanding goals for the program 5:16 - More about the series / Louis Gossett, Jr. / Craig T. Nelson / Mackenzie Phillips / Dr. Drew Pinsky / Paul Williams / Art Alexakis / Danny Trejo / Tom Arnold 5:55 - Dr. Kevin McCauley (February 20) / Casey King (February 27) / Andrew Zimmern (February 13) 6:34 - Andrew Zimmern introduction 7:20 - Welcome, Chef / Myrtle Beach / Making television around the world / Thoughts about Myrtle Beach presentation 11:10 - Early life in culinary / Cooking in NYC 13:52 - Years of promise / Europe and Asia trips / Talent and culinary proficiency / Leading a double life 15:39 - More NYC / Anne Rosenzweig and Arcadia / Rakel (Thomas Keller and Serge Raoul) / Cooking in Venice / Grand Cafes / Quality and Speed, 1980s 18:26 - Work all day, party all night / Dangerous places / Addiction trajectory 20:24 - Descent into homelessness 23:18 - Asking for help / Final intervention 1992 / Hazelden 25:37 - Success after recovery / The gift of serenety / "Walking through the work" / Emotional and physical sobriety 32:30 - The steps and service work / Being of service / Life on life's terms 38:47 - Mental health and mental health awareness / C-Cap / Anxiety and Depression in culinary / Talking to others 40:06 - Empathy in the workplace / Co-regulation / Listening 27:26 - Final thoughts / Practicing solutions / Work-in-progress / Call one person / The importance of asking for help Resources: Suicide and Crisis Lifeline: Call or text 988 Substance Abuse and Addiction Hotline: 1-844-289-0879 Alcoholics Anonymous: www.aa.org
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Episode 91 - "Anxious and Socially Awkward"
The twins discuss Chris' recent songwriting efforts, their recent show at House of Blues Myrtle Beach, trips to New York and Aruba, books, an author friend and so much more - and Chris was on a roll with riffing and wordplay. This episode is everything you'd expect, and less. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - Song snippet by Chris Yale - "Blackmailed" 1:03 - Greetings and about the snippet. Chris' recent songwriting efforts. 2:38 - Recent show on The Deck at House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Shout out to our friend Amy White for the booking and Erik Davey for sound production / David Gilmour Luck and Strange Tour t-shirts from our Bill Becker / More about Gilmour tour 5:35 - Roger's trip to New York - Brooklyn and Sleepy Hollow / South Slope / Hartley's Irish Pub / Hanging with daughter Taylor and her beau, Seán / All-you-can-eat mussels / Read about the trip on Roger's BLOG. 6:30 - Chris' new wordplay: "BoSeán" / More about NY trip / Our friend Evan Rochon at Daniel Murphy High School Los Angeles / Sacred Heart High School Los Angeles 10:00 - Listening to The Stones' "Some Girls" while stoned in the 1970s. / Weed, social awkwardness and anxiety 11:33 - "Statute of limitations" with parents / Sinning / "God will punish you." / Jesus took the punishment / Parental guilt / "Little Me and Big Me" 14:24 - Lilith / Lillith Fair / Indigo Girls / Sarah McLachlan / Paula Cole Band - "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone?" / Mary Gauthier 16:00 - Chris didn't pick up a South African guy's pictures from Fotomat. 17:17 - More New York Trip / Irvington / Tarrytown / Sleepy Hollow Cemetery / Old Dutch Church / Grand Central at rush hour / Hessians / Subway at rush hour / "Billy on the Street" 20:45 - Chris' trip to Aruba / TAA Show (Tobacconists' Association of America) / Cigar industry 22:32 - "The Purpose Driven Life" by Rick Warren / Mom's handwriting / "Bowie at 75" by Martin Popoff / Meeting Bowie 25:17 - Decluttering / "It's All Too Much: An Easy Plan for Living a Richer Life with Less Stuff" by Peter Walsh 26:12 - Wayne C. Dees, "Altered Perceptions" book and film / Roger's friendship with Dees / Roger's review of the book 28:25 - Chris went for the low-hanging fruit and started in with the "CDs" reference - IYKYK - Stop it, Chris. 30:01 - Chris' production problems with ZOOM LiveTrak L-8 / Fast-talking / Latency / Clipped like Tyne Daly 31:20 - Parting shots / Concrete Blonde vs. Four Non Blondes / More Lilith / Bebe Neuwirth / Jane Friedman is not Jill Abramson / Vocal fry
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Episode 90 - "Keeping Everything Just So"
The twins return and quickly go down the rabbit hole - talking about everything from songwriting to recording, performing live, taking proper naps, Jesus and the cosmos, decluttering and so much more - including a song recorded eons ago in Hollywood. SHOW NOTES: NOTE: This podcast episode is dedicated to the memory of our dear friend, Kathy DiGiacomo. You are irreplaceable and will remain in our hearts always. 0:00 - "Mine Again" by Roger Yale - Recorded at Paramount Recording Studios Hollywood, 1983. 3:47 - Greetings and about the song / Steve Kobashigawa / Nick Walusko aka Nicky Wonder (RIP) / 50th Anniversary Tour - "Pet Sounds" / Beach Boys Fan Club and Brian Wilson tribute to Nick / The Wondermints / Nick's work with Brian Wilson and Beach Boys backup band / Chris' adventures with Nick 8:07 - Chris alone at the house / Early waking / Proper sleep / Quiet time 9:38 - Off-season in Myrtle Beach / Growth in Myrtle Beach / Jobs / Myrtle beach as a TECH HUB 10:52 - Tommy James' open tuning / Irving Berlin's piano with transpose lever / Roger's transpose button / "Tin Pan Alley Twins" - Elton John "Bitter Fingers" 12:15 - Sound system dialed-in at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Roger's grandson at LuLu's - BLOG POST 14:20 - Roger's song ideas / snippets / Chris' songwriting / "Songwriter" movie with Willie Nelson / "Ishtar" 15:44 - "Down and Out in Paradise: The Life of Anthony Bourdain" by Charles Leerhsen / Asia Argento / "Unrequited Infatuations" by Stevie Van Zandt / More van Zandt / Apartheid / Sun City / South African Relatives 17:35 - Colonialists / Imperialists / Greed 18:19 - Band punctuation/grammar - "is" vs. "are" 18:40 - Roger's decluttering project / The ceasless vacuuming by Roger's upstairs neighbor / Close miking / Hoarding tendencies / Chris wiped his old iMac / Remote storage / Bearded Clam in "Family Guy" 21:55 - On napping / getting things done / Cleanup panic / Paul Rankin's figgy jam / Homemade pasta 23:50 - More about "Mine Again" / Roger Dollarhide / Alto Sax 24:30 - Henry Cutrona / The Hiding Place church in Los Angeles, 1980s / Dad rebuking Satan / "Shout at the Devil" Motley Crue / Christianity and cosmic matters / Carlos Castaneda / Chris: "Jesus is my sensei" / Danse Macabre / "Dance of Death" on the gallows
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Episode 89 - "Hoop Skirts and Step-Throughs"
The twins are back -ruminating about turning 61, discussing recording gear and software, computers and e-bikes. That's just the beginning. There's also their work at a well-known cigar shop in Myrtle Beach, recent concerts, reads, gigs and so much more - including a gem from the musical archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "What Might Have Been" by Chris Yale 3:40 - Greetings / July 4th Fireworks / About the song and Chris' album, "Well Enough Alone" 4:37 - On turning 61 5:09 - Chris' upgrade to Logic Pro 11 / New used iMac (2019) / Old Apogee Duet / Apple Loops 6:20 - "He had to be shown" / AA Big Book / "The Beer Experiment" / "The Milk Experiment" 7:22 - Chris' and Betsy's new KBO e-bikes / Hoop skirts and step-throughs 8:54 - Chris at home without supervision 9:25 - "The Season" is back in Myrtle Beach / Cigar events at Tinder Box Myrtle Beach / Tinder Box memories 1970s and 1980s / Roger's first imported cigar - Macanudo Portofino / Chris' first imported cigar - Macanudo Baron de Rothschild / Domestic cigars 12:03 - Cigar snobs / $60 cigar versus a $12 cigar / Diminishing returns / $100 shots / Blowhards / Roger's take on cigar blends and aging 14:05 - "Beverly Hills Cop: Axel F" streaming / Hollywood exteriors / "Lucifer" series - Sunset Tower on Sunset Strip 15:06 - The Rolling Stones in Atlanta / Mercedes Benz Stadium / Chuck Leavell / Steve Jordan / Edify yourself / Darryl Jones / Wyman, lately 17:37 - "Stevie Van Zandt: Disciple" documentary / The duster and the bandana / Paul Stanley-ish? / Chris Lord-Alge 19:53 - Cubase / 64-gig memory on Chris' iMac / ZOOM LiveTrak L-8 / Logic Pro 21:00 - Roger's writing efforts / Post and Courier Myrtle Beach / Georgetown Times / Charles Perry / Roger's work with Grand Strand Magazine 21:39 - Queen sells music for $1.2 billion 22:05 -LuLu's North Myrtle Beach gigs 23:04 - Intracoastal Waterway / Bird Island / Sick Stooges / Brandon Toms / Freedom Boat Club 25:05 - Roger hits 10 years of sobriety / Getting stuff done 24:40 - "Turning Pro" by Steven Pressfield / Lao Tzu versus Sun Tzu / "Atlas Shrugged" and "The Fountainhead" by Ayn Rand / "A Tramp Across the Continent" by Charles Fletcher Lummis 27:03 - Parting shots / Our jobs at Tinder Box / Chris' slow internet / Chris' grandkids
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Episode 88 - "End Times Sandwich Board"
In this episode, The Yale Brothers once again cover the waterfront - from The Grateful Dead to Ian Whitcomb, Gigs in Myrtle Beach to tripping at recording sessions, Roger's newspaper work to walking around Hollywood in the seventies and eighties. It's all that and more, including a musical gem from the archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Strange Fascination" by Chris Yale 4:02 - Greetings and about the song /The call of the flesh / Sobriety / Second lineup of their band, Rogue Alley 6:42 - Noel Coward performs "Let's Do It (Let's Fall In Love)" in Las Vegas 7:14 - Myrtle Beach is getting busy again / Spring break / Underage booze and tobacco / Chris mistaken for a street hustler in Glendale, CA, 1985 8:23 - "Rough Trade" by Ian Whitcomb / Tripping balls at a Whitcomb recording session / Ronnie Barron / Dr. John 9:22 - Jerry Garcia spiked the coffee / Joe Smith / Early Dead documentary efforts 10:23 - "Long Strange Trip" docuseries / Workingman's Dead recording process / "Casey Jones" and "Uncle John's Band" / Roger's cover feature about Scott Mann, WAVE 104.1 Myrtle Beach / More about Scott Mann / More Dead 12:35 - The outdated P.A. / Roger's solo gig at Dirty Myrtle Wing Company - Bike Night rained out 16:43 - Upcoming Yale Brothers gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach 17:03 - Roger's latest story for The Post and Courier Myrtle Beach appeared in The Post and Courier Charleston / History of The Post and Courier 17:58 - More about Dirty Myrtle Wing Company 19:24 - Chris without adult supervision 20:06 - Chris' guitar string issues resolved on his PRS guitar / Dave Matthews / South African heritage / "Desiderata" 22:29 - Main Character Syndrome / Solipsism / Living in a movie 23:30 - Friend Daniel Alexander's gigs at Miceli's Hollywood / North Las Palmas Avenue, Hollywood / Drinking at Miceli's / "This Is Spinal Tap" at The Egyptian Theatre Hollywood / The Gold Cup Hollywood / Jackson Browne and Daryl Hannah / Newsstands on Las Palmas and Cahuenge Boulevard 26:33 - Stopping at Del Taco in San Bernardino / Dick Naugle / Naugle's 27:11 - Walking around Hollywood between La Brea Avenue and Highland Avenue - Franklin Avenue to Sunset Blvd / Driving the freeways / Close calls and dropping a bike 29:36 - "Sound Pictures: The Life of Beatles Producer George Martin, The Later Years, 1966-2016" by Kenneth Womack / "Pity the Reader: On Writing With Style" by Kurt Vonnegut and Suzanne McConnell 31:28 - Aerosmith show reseheduled for October / Steven Tyler larynx / Rolling Stones in June 32:12 - Benzedrine inhaler 32:34 - Chris' new studio monitors - Kali Audio LP6 Version 2 / Dip switch 34:55 - Parting shots / Chris' beard / Pizza for days / Iran strikes Israel / End times sandwich board / Argent
Identical twins and performing songwriters The Yale Brothers came of age in Hollywood in the glory days of the late 1970s and early 1980s. This show tells the tales of their experiences, the people they met and the enduring friends they made in that magical time. Now living in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, this podcast is not all about looking back. It’s about life. And music.
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