It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

• A Long Road to Glory: The Lionesses Origin Story | Part One

  Welcome back to another episode of It Was What It Was with hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper as they delve into the history of The Lionesses and the true story behind the first ever women's Euros. This episode explores the struggles and triumphs of women's football, from the controversial FA ban in 1921, to England's historic victory in the 2025 Euros. Rob and Jonathan look into the pioneering efforts of teams like the Dick, Kerr Ladies and the Manchester Corinthians, looking at how women's football overcame a 50-year ban to shine on the world stage. Join us as we uncover the groundbreaking stories and resilient pioneers behind this incredible journey through a century of women's football history.00:00 Introduction: Girls and Football00:51 The Ban on Women's Football01:37 The Struggle and Triumph of Women's Football03:02 The Dick, Kerr Ladies and Their Legacy04:22 The Impact of the FA Ban07:00 International Tours and Recognition12:59 Manchester Corinthians: A New Hope18:34 Cultural Contrasts in Women's Football20:48 The First Women's Euros: A Hidden History22:10 The Rise and Fall of the International Ladies Football Association26:21 Manchester Corinthians: Pioneers of Women's Football32:21 Missed Opportunities and Reflections38:44 Concluding Thoughts and Future Directions Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• Spurs '91: Gascoigne, Gold, and the FA Cup with Ewan Flynn

  Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. This week co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper welcome special guest Euan Flynn, author of 'When the Year Ends in One,' to discuss Tottenham Hotspur's momentous 1990-91 season. The episode delves into Paul Gascoigne's tearful departure due to a career-threatening injury during the FA Cup final and the financial turmoil facing the club, which saw a potential world-record transfer deal collapse. The podcast covers the epic highs and disastrous lows of that pivotal season, from Gascoigne's mesmerizing FA Cup run to the behind-the-scenes financial entanglements involving Irving Scholar and the club's eventual acquisition by Alan Sugar. Tune in for an in-depth look at how this season had ramifications far beyond the football pitch.00:00 Gascoigne's Injury and Tottenham's Financial Crisis00:37 Introduction to the Special Episode01:41 The Pivotal 1990-91 Season02:19 Tottenham's Financial Woes and Ownership Issues04:03 The Year Ending in One: A Superstition Explained05:21 Gascoigne's Meteoric Rise and Media Frenzy08:02 The Illusion of a Title Challenge10:18 Irving Scholar's Takeover and Financial Missteps21:13 The Culture and Discipline at Tottenham23:46 The FA Cup Run Begins31:36 The Pressure on Young Athletes32:28 The Semifinal at Wembley34:00 Venables and the Mysterious Financier40:34 The FA Cup Final Build-Up47:23 The Dramatic FA Cup Final54:36 The Aftermath and Legacy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• Before Maradona and Messi: The Tragic Tale of Oreste Corbatta

  Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast.This week co-hosts Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson delve into the life of OrestesCorbatta, a legendary Argentine footballer whose story combines brilliance and tragedy. Known for his dazzling dribbling skills and audacious playstyle, Corbatta played a crucial role in Argentina's 1957 Campeonato Sudamericano win. However, despite his football genius, Corbatta's life was marred by alcoholism and personal struggles.The episode explores his rise from a rural town to becoming a national icon, his struggles with illiteracy, and the personal traumas that impacted his career. Draper and Wilson also discuss the broader significance of Corbatta's style in the context of Argentine football, drawing parallels to legends like Maradona and Messi.Join us as we remember the poetic yet tragic life of Omar Orestes Corbatta, a player whose legacy continues to influence Argentine football today.00:00 Introduction 01:31 The Significance of the 1957 Campeonato Sudamericano04:39 The Evolution of Argentinian Football09:34 The Five Simbas and Their Impact16:08 The Role of Radio in Argentinian Football Culture19:31 The Decline and Shift in Argentinian Football23:42 The Duality of Argentinian Football: Beauty and Cynicism26:15 The Tragic Figure of Coba27:25 Early Life and Struggles29:49 Rise to Fame and Personal Challenges33:50 The Decline Begins38:46 Final Years and Legacy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• Mo Salah: The Egyptian King's Story | Part Two

  Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the Football History podcast hosted by Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper. In this second episode of a two-part special, we explore the life of Mohamed Salah - from winning his third PFA player of the year award, to the pressures and the complex political landscape he navigates in Egypt . We delve into Salah's impact in the UK, his challenging relationship with International football, from rural Egypt to the global stage, Mohamed Salah's journey is as thrilling as it is complex. Join us for an in-depth look at one of the most intriguing figures in modern football.00:00 Introduction 00:44 Mohamed Salah's Political and Cultural Significance03:01 The Complexities of Expressing Political Views05:02 Historical Context: Egypt's Political Landscape14:19 The Arab Spring and Its Aftermath24:06 Mohamed Salah's Relationship with the Egyptian National Team27:40 High Stakes in World Cup Play-offs28:35 Egypt's Football Legacy and Recent Struggles29:55 The 2018 World Cup Disappointment31:56 Controversies and Criticisms37:59 Political Pressures and Social Media44:46 Salah's Impact in the UK49:24 The Ballon d'Or and Future Prospects Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• Mo Salah: The Egyptian King's Story | Part One

  Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Today, co-hosts Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson are joined by Ed Aarons from The Guardian to discuss the incredible journey of Mohamed Salah. With the PFA Footballer of the Year awards tonight, Salah's early life and career beginnings are explored in depth. Ed shares his research from travels to Salah's hometown in Egypt, providing unique insights into the challenges Salah faced, including the long commute for training and the support from his family. The episode covers Salah’s initial struggles, his move to Basel, and his eventual breakout that caught the attention of major clubs. Join us to learn how Salah's dedication and hard work paved the way for his renowned career.00:00 Introduction and Today's Topic: Mohamed Salah00:38 Guest Introduction: Ed Aarons00:54 Journey to Egypt: Tracing Salah's Roots01:54 Experiences in Salah's Hometown03:22 Salah's Early Life and Football Beginnings12:39 Challenges and Dedication in Salah's Youth18:40 Salah's Transition to Professional Football21:29 Cultural and Personal Insights on Salah22:11 Salah's Early Professional Struggles23:53 The Turning Point: Mastering the Art of Finishing25:09 Early Career Struggles and Breakthroughs26:33 International Recognition and Olympic Success30:10 The Tragic Event That Changed Everything31:31 The Move to Basel: Trials and Triumphs39:00 Challenges at Chelsea and the Path to Greatness44:26 Liverpool's Perfect Fit: Salah's Rise to Stardom46:25 National Team Challenges and Rivalries49:57 Legacy and Comparisons: The Greatest African Player? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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