It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In this week's episode, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper tell the remarkable story of Bert Trautmann — the former Nazi paratrooper who became Manchester City's beloved goalkeeper and an unlikely symbol of Anglo-German reconciliation. 70 years on from the legendary 1956 FA Cup final, Wilson and Draper trace Trautmann's extraordinary journey: from Hitler Youth member and fighting on the Eastern Front, to prisoner of war in England, to the man who played on with a broken neck at Wembley. They examine his teenage indoctrination, the atrocity he witnessed, that shattered his faith in Nazism and the 25,000 protesters at Maine Road. Along the way, they explore the brutal treatment of goalkeepers in this era and how three successive cup final incidents began to change the game's laws. Finally, they reflect on how a flawed, charismatic man became the perfect bridge between two nations.

00:00 Jimmy Ashcroft and the Goalkeeper's Lot
06:30 Hitler Youth — Trautmann's Indoctrination
12:45 The Eastern Front
19:20 Witnessing the SS Massacre
25:00 Captured Three Times — Soviets, Americans, and a Cup of Tea
27:10 Prisoner of War and the Accidental Goalkeeper
34:50 Staying in England
42:15 25,000 Protesters
48:00 Winning Over Manchester
53:40 The 1956 FA Cup Final — Playing On with a Broken Neck
58:10 The Dangerous Life of the Goalkeeper
01:03:20 Footballer of the Year and Personal Tragedy
01:09:00 Burma, Women's Football, and an OBE
01:14:30 The Perfect Symbol of Reconciliation
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Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In this week's episode, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper revisit the 1995-96 Premier League season. 30 years on from one of the great title races. They trace Manchester United's unlikely triumph, beginning with the summer meltdown that saw Ince, Hughes, and Kanchelskis all depart, the infamous opening-day defeat to Aston Villa, and Alan Hansen's immortal verdict. From Cantona's Paris crisis and Ferguson's diplomatic dinner to Newcastle's flying start and that seemingly insurmountable 12-point lead, Wilson and Draper unpick every twist. They examine Schmeichel's heroics in the pivotal March showdown at St James' Park, the Tino Asprilla effect, the curse of the grey shirts at The Dell, and finally the extraordinary moment Kevin Keegan lost his composure on live television.

00:00 Alan Hansen Sets the Scene
06:30 The Summer Meltdown — Ince, Hughes, Kanchelskis
12:45 Class of '92 and the Aston Villa Opener
19:20 Cantona's Paris Crisis and Ferguson's Rescue Mission
27:10 Newcastle's Flying Start and the 12-Point Lead
34:50 The March Showdown at St James' Park
42:15 Tino Asprilla and the Rodney Marsh Debate
48:00 Liverpool 4, Newcastle 3 — The Moment It Turned
53:40 The Grey Shirts and the Southampton Collapse
58:10 The Mind Games Begin
01:03:20 Keegan's Meltdown — "I Will Love It"
01:09:00 United Win the League and the Double
01:14:30 Why This Season Made the Premier League
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Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In this week’s episode, co-hosts Jonthan Wilson and Rob Draper are joined by Sports Journalist and author Jonathan Northcroft to take a look 10 years on from that extraordinary and famous Premier League win! They frame the story around key pivot points, including the Valentine’s Day defeat at Arsenal and the self-belief it sparked, plus Ranieri’s unexpected decision to still grant the squad a holiday. Northcroft traces the longer build-up through the 2013 Watford play-off heartbreak, Nigel Pearson’s cross-department reset, the 2014 Championship-winning platform (and the later FFP breach), and the club’s smart recruitment and early data use that delivered players like Kanté, Mahrez and Okazaki. They cover Pearson’s departure after off-field incidents, the scepticism around Ranieri’s appointment, his “dilly ding” media touch, rivals’ crises, standout wins over Liverpool and Manchester City, Spurs’ chase, and the city’s all-in celebrations as the miracle became real.

06:35 Origins of the Build
10:39 FFP and the Promotion Debate
11:35 Recruitment and Data Edge
17:36 Kante and Mahrez Backstories
22:22 Pearson Great Escape and Exit
26:10 Ranieri Arrives Against the Odds
27:46 Dilly Ding and Pizza Psychology
35:24 Chelsea Chaos Unravels
41:42 Big Clubs in Crisis
45:02 Vardy Volley and City Statement
47:37 Leicester Media Frenzy
53:30 Spurs Pressure and Title Night
59:19 Leicester Celebrates as One
01:04:30 Bonkers Finale
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Welcome back to It Was What It Was the football history podcast. In today’s episode, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper bring this Graham Taylor series to a close with the Oslo qualifier that defined his reign: a chaotic, tactically muddled 2–0 loss to Norway at the peak of their ‘golden age’, captured in painful detail by The Impossible Job. Unpacking Taylor’s mounting stress, tabloid caricature and “no‑win” selection calls—especially the dilemma of persisting with an undercooked Paul Gascoigne—before explaining how the back-three plan collapsed, England’s structure unravelled, and Norway’s alertness (including a quick free kick) punished them. The episode breaks down England’s chaotic structure, Norway’s tactical calm under Egil “Drillo” Olsen, and Taylor’s famous touchline outbursts, before tracing the fallout: “Norse Manure” headlines, concerns the players had stopped responding, and a demoralising US tour. England briefly revive by beating Poland, but lose in Rotterdam and, despite winning 7–1 in San Marino after conceding almost instantly, miss out as the Netherlands win in Poland. They assess Taylor’s broader legacy, his misfortune with timing and player form, and his later rehabilitation at Watford.

01:51 Norway’s Golden Generation
04:51 Tabloid Mockery Era
06:11 Psychology and Pressure
08:18 The Gaza Fitness Dilemma
18:30 Paranoia and Tactical Switch
22:50 System Collapse in Oslo
25:57 Quick Free Kick Nightmare
29:41 Norway Strike Again
30:32 Tabloid Backlash
32:07 Tactics And Trust
35:18 Bigger Picture Failings
42:56 USA Tour Fallout
43:49 Last Chance Qualifiers
45:36 San Marino Shock
48:28 Reassessing the Taylor Legacy

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Welcome back to It Was What It Was. In today's episode, co-hosts Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson continue Graham Taylor’s England story as the 1994 World Cup qualifying begins to wobble, with Paul Gascoigne’s talent and volatility dominating the narrative. They examine how Taylor’s pragmatic, direct style—shaped by lower-league realities and later linked (often unfairly) to FA long-ball doctrine—collided with more technical European approaches, and how internal battles involving Charles Hughes and data pioneer Charles Reap poisoned the backdrop. England’s campaign lurches through a Norway draw at Wembley after a late stunner, a Gascoigne-inspired win over Turkey, and a damaging 2–2 draw with the Netherlands featuring an undetected elbow and a late penalty. With Gascoigne returning in a mask, England then stumble in a hostile Poland away match and escape with a late equaliser, before Taylor’s brutal “headless chickens” verdict leaves his team heading to Oslo under growing pressure.

00:24 Setting the Scene
03:08 Taylor’s Pragmatic Roots
06:50 Pressing vs Possession
10:04 Charles Hughes and the Winning Formula
13:55 Reap vs Hughes Fallout
19:31 Norway’s Long Ball Irony
21:59 Back to Qualifying Hopes
24:10 Gazza’s Norway Controversy
26:50 Taylor’s Gaza Dilemma
28:22 Norway Opener Heartbreak
30:53 Turkey Win and Dependence
32:53 Too Honest With Press
40:12 Dutch Clash at Wembley
44:13 Mask Return and Mania
45:52 Poland Chaos and Critique
49:03 Headless Chickens Finale
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