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The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett
The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett
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  • The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

    116: THE KOURI RICHINS TRIAL - WTF with this Private Investigator???

    10/03/2026 | 1h 5min
    As the Kouri Richins murder trial entered its third week on March 9, 2026 (Day 10), the proceedings underscored a profound tension between the prosecution’s pursuit of a clear motive and the defense’s attempt to expose what they call a family-funded "hit job". The day featured pivotal testimony from a business partner, a handwriting expert, a lead detective, and the private investigator whose 936-hour probe laid the groundwork for the state's case.
    Mel + Rebecca break down the testimony of the Private Investigator hired by the Richins family. 
    If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...

    If you like us, please tip us: 
    venmo: @melbarrettwrites 
    cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips 
    You can now join the YouTube channel! When you become a member Rebecca will send you free stickers! Click the join button to select your favorite level. 
    Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow ‪@reblavoie‬ on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!
  • The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

    115: Kouri Richins Trial Day 10 - Eric's BF takes the stand!

    10/03/2026 | 1h 57min
    Mel Barrett and Rebecca Lavoie are back to dissect Day 10 of the Kouri Richins trial, and we are officially in the "piling on" phase of the prosecution’s case. As the state prepares to rest, they’re throwing everything at the wall—from forged signatures to high school drug rumors—but something is definitely off about the actual proof.
    In this episode, we break down the heavy hitters from Monday’s testimony:
    The Business Partner: Cody Wright took the stand to describe Eric as a "cowboy" who wouldn't let a cold stop him, let alone a fentanyl overdose. But the real chill? Cody’s description of a Valentine's Day call from Eric where he heard a "sense of urgency and fear" in his voice that he’d only heard twice before in his life.
    The "Simulated Forgery": Handwriting expert Matthew Throckmorton dropped a technical bomb, testifying that Eric "probably did not" sign those critical insurance documents. He called it a simulation—someone drawing a signature to pass it off as real.
    The Driveway Bombshell: Detective Jayme Woody recounted the moment she pulled into the driveway and met Eric’s sister, Amy, who claimed Eric told her point-blank: "I think Kouri is going to kill me."
    The state is working overtime to create an "atmosphere of a bad person." They want you to see a woman who fakes taxes, forges signatures, and had a messy childhood. But let’s be clear: Character evidence is not a conviction.

    Being a lousy financial manager or an unfaithful spouse isn't the same thing as being a murderer. We’re still missing the actus reus—the actual mechanics of how Kouri allegedly got that fentanyl into Eric. We spent hours today arguing over "red devils" and Sudafed from Eric’s high school days just to try and prove he wasn't a "drug person," but the state's burden is higher than "he was a good guy and she's a bad girl."
    If the Medical Examiner still has the manner of death listed as "undetermined," how can a jury get to "beyond a reasonable doubt"? At the end of the day, a fair trial means proving the crime, not just the character. If you can see both faces of that optical illusion—the witch and the widow—the law says you have to walk.
    Something is definitely off.
    If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...

    If you like us, please tip us: 
    venmo: @melbarrettwrites 
    cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips 
    You can now join the YouTube channel! When you become a member Rebecca will send you free stickers! Click the join button to select your favorite level. 
    Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow ‪@reblavoie‬ on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!
  • The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

    114: Kouri Richins Trial Day 9 PLUS Karen Read back in court over a misleading leaked phone call

    06/03/2026 | 1h 48min
    As the prosecution begins to wrap up its case against Kouri Richins, the testimony from her inner circle painted a chilling portrait of a woman who was not just in financial ruin, but allegedly vocal about a world where her husband no longer existed.
    We’re breaking down the testimony of Kouri’s childhood best friends, Allie Staking and Chelsea Barney. From a "funny" story about hidden THC gummies in Hawaii to the heartbreaking moment Chelsea realized her "best friend" had allegedly stolen her life savings and left her facing eviction, the betrayal in the courtroom was palpable.
    Inside this episode:

    The "Joke" That Wasn't: We analyze Becky Lloyd’s bombshell testimony that Kouri explicitly stated it would be "better if Eric was dead" months before his fentanyl overdose.

    The Safe Incident: The raw desperation Kouri showed while trying to crack Eric’s safe the day after he died—and why she was so obsessed with his will.

    The Medical Narrative: We listen to the recorded jail calls where Kouri attempts to blame Eric's death on a "fungal infection" and COVID-19, despite the medical examiner's findings.

    "Don't Eat What Kouri Gives You": The haunting "poisoning joke" shared among friends just weeks before Eric’s death. Was it a dark premonition or just bad timing?

    PLUS we'll go live to the courtroom for the O'Keefes v Karen Read civil cas

    Stick around for our closing segment where we head back to Massachusetts. Karen Read is back in the headlines after a "misleading" phone call between her and Aidan "Turtleboy" Kearney was leaked. Is this the "smoking gun" the McAlberts have been waiting for, or is it another case of a conversation taken wildly out of context? 
    If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...

    If you like us, please tip us: 
    venmo: @melbarrettwrites 
    cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips 
    You can now join the YouTube channel! When you become a member Rebecca will send you free stickers! Click the join button to select your favorite level. 
    Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow ‪@reblavoie‬ on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!
  • The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

    113: Kouri Richins Trial Day 8 Recap "The Paramour"

    05/03/2026 | 2h 9min
    Mel Barrett and Rebecca Lavoie are back to dissect Day 8 of the Kouri Richins trial, a day that felt less like a courtroom and more like a post-mortem of a "shadow war" Eric Richins didn't know he was losing. In this episode, we’re talking about the arrival of the "other man," Robert Josh Grossman. 
    Grossman sat in that box and confirmed the affair, but he also dropped a chilling detail: ten days after the funeral, Kouri asked him point-blank what it felt like to kill someone while he was serving in Iraq. Mel and Rebecca ask—is that grief-fueled curiosity, or a killer looking for a kindred spirit? 
    Something is definitely off about the paper trail: 
    The 6-Minute Mission: We look at the digital evidence of someone using Kouri’s login to try and flip a $2 million beneficiary 61 times in six minutes. That’s not a glitch; that’s an obsession. 
    The Digit Slip: A new $100,000 policy taken out weeks before the death had Eric’s SSN transposed and was mailed to a private PO box. Coincidence? We think not. But the defense isn't backing down. 
    We break down the high-stakes mistrial motion filed after the defense discovered the state might have hidden the fact that their star witness, Carmen Lauber, failed drug court. Plus, we dive into the "catch pole" text that has the lead detective looking more like a bully than an investigator. 
    Join us as we ask: Was Eric Richins a man who knew his time was up, or is the "Moscow Mule Killer" just a widow being buried by bad accounting? Something is definitely off. 
    If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...

    If you like us, please tip us: 
    venmo: @melbarrettwrites 
    cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips 
    You can now join the YouTube channel! Click the join button to select your favorite level. 
    Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow ‪@reblavoie‬ on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!
  • The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

    112: Are we at war w/Iran bc Trump is trying to distract from Epstein Files or is Bebe blackmailing him?

    05/03/2026 | 1h 31min
    Join Mel and Marti Cummings as they discuss the current state of politics that led to war with Iran. Is the Epstein Files or Trump's ego? 
    Mel is building this new show from scratch and can use your help! 
    If you appreciate the work, please consider tipping. 
    Venmo: @melbarrettwrites Cashapp: $newslight 
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Sobre The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

There’s the official story. And then there’s the truth. The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative. Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case, work that helped form the basis of a new habeas petition. In Season One, she revisits the trial that made Smart a national villain—and questions everything we thought we knew. Season Two, From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story, pulls back the curtain on a case where a 26-year-old Air National Guard member reported a sexual assault—and ended up the one in handcuffs. What happened next is more than a miscarriage of justice. It’s a warning. This is the space between the crime and the courtroom, the headlines and the hidden truth. This is The In Between. Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod TikTok: @jackofalltradesdc Web: inbetweenpod.com
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