

408. I Used to Work For Turning Point. Here's How I Got Out
15/12/2025 | 1h
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker speaks with Caroline Stout, a former employee of Turning Point USA, about her journey from evangelical fundamentalism to a more nuanced understanding of faith and politics. Caroline shares her experiences growing up in a mega church, her involvement with Turning Point USA, and the evolution of the organization over the years. Caroline on Instagram | @Babyblue.tx Caroline on TikTok | @Babyblue.tx Chapters 05:10 Growing Up in Evangelical Culture 15:02 The Evolution of Turning Point USA 24:45 The Impact of Media and Propaganda 35:06 Navigating Complexities of Faith and Politics 40:05 Conclusion and Future Directions ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

407. What Changed Our Minds - From Two Former Christian Nationalists
08/12/2025 | 1h 3min
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a candid conversation with Monte Mader, a musician turned content creator. They explore the challenges and transformations in their personal and professional lives, discussing the impact of Christian nationalism, the journey of deconstruction, and the pursuit of authenticity in faith and life. Monte's Website | Montemader.com Monte's Podcast | Flipping Tables Chapters 03:00 Impact of Christian Nationalism 09:00 Navigating Faith and Politics 15:00 Authenticity and Personal Beliefs 21:00 Challenges of Deconstruction 27:00 Community and Hope for the Future ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

406. Modern White Supremacy Traded White Hoods for Red Hats
01/12/2025 | 1h 17min
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker engages engages in an enlightening conversation with public theologian and digital pastor, Kristian A. Smith. The discussion spans various critical themes such as the dangers of Christian nationalism, the importance of economic justice, and the moral imperative to address societal inequities. Kristian's Website | Kristianasmith.com Chapters 03:46 Discussing Christian Nationalism 09:11 The Complexity of Christianity and Social Justice 24:36 Racial Injustice and Historical Context 39:46 Power of Collective Action 40:57 Challenges of Class Solidarity 57:55 Whiteness and Identity Crisis 01:03:42 Biblical Perspectives on Wealth and Morality 01:09:26 Final Thoughts and Call to Action ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

405. How to Die with Josh Porter
24/11/2025 | 1h 2min
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Josh Porter, author of 'How to Die: Chaos, Mortality, and the Scandal of Christian Discipleship.' They explore the complexities of Christian discipleship, the rejection of Christian nationalism, and the importance of inclusivity within the faith. Josh's Website | Joshuasporter.com Chapters 06:14 The Premise of 'How to Die' and Christian Discipleship 11:44 Navigating Christian Nationalism and Cultural Contexts 20:41 Understanding Christian Discipleship in Modern Times 27:52 The Complexity of Queer Inclusion in Christianity 34:13 Orthodoxy and the Evolution of Beliefs 51:43 Bringing Heaven to Earth: A Call to Action ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

404. MAGA Isn't Afraid of Trans People. It's Disgusted By Them
17/11/2025 | 1h 9min
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a conversation with Billie and Paul Hoard about their new book Eucontamination. The discussion dives into the theory of disgust and the innovative concept of 'good contamination,' describing how Jesus is seen as a transformative contaminant for good. They explore how disgust influences societal behaviors, particularly within evangelical circles, and how Jesus' embrace of those considered 'impure' subverts traditional notions of purity. Billie and Paul's Book | Eucontamination Chapters 08:13 Understanding Disgust from a Psychological Perspective 14:52 Sociological and Political Implications of Disgust 18:29 Jesus as the Good Contaminant 34:23 The Paradox of Holiness and Worldly Contamination 35:21 The Role of the Church in Spreading Goodness 35:41 Personal Reflections on Faith and Community 43:32 The Challenge of Embracing New Experiences 57:56 Final Thoughts and Theological Insights____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices



The New Evangelicals Podcast