The RELEVANT Podcast

• Episode 1280: Director Rian Johnson on Faith, Doubt and the Christian Themes in ‘Knives Out’

  Rian Johnson’s new Knives Out film, 'Wake Up Dead Man,' is sparking conversations few mainstream movies ever touch — faith, forgiveness, power and what it actually means to follow Jesus in a polarized world.In this episode, we talk with the filmmaker about growing up in the Church, walking away from faith and why Christ’s teachings — especially “love your enemy” — still shape the stories he wants to tell. Johnson opens up about wrestling with the us-versus-them mentality, the corrupting pull of power and influence, and why he wanted to portray Christian belief with empathy rather than caricature.Plus, the RELEVANT crew debates the best Christmas movie of all time in a chaotic bracket showdown, reacts to surprising year-end culture stories and discusses new research suggesting adolescence doesn’t actually end until age 32.HIGHLIGHTS:01:40 – Why 'Wake Up Dead Man' Feels Like a Gospel Story04:00 – Serving vs. Fighting: Faith and the Culture War06:45 – Why Culture Is More Open to Spiritual Conversations09:20 – Is Wake Up Dead Man the Best Knives Out Movie?12:10 – Is Rian Johnson Done With Faith?13:10 – Christianity vs. Church Culture20:15 – RELEVANT Buzz22:00 – Forrest Frank Breaks Into Google’s “Hum to Search” List26:30 – Theo Von and Morgan Wallen’s Bible Study Revealed32:00 – Rian Johnson on Growing Up Evangelical34:00 – “Arms Wide Open vs. Fists Up” Faith Explained39:00 — SLICES39:20 – New Research Says Adolescence Lasts Until Age 3245:15 – AI Reality TV Is Here (Unfortunately)47:30 – Christmas Movie Bracket ChallengeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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• Episode 1279: Andy Mineo

  This week, Andy Mineo joins us for a hilarious and surprisingly vulnerable conversation about reinvention, perfectionism, leaving Reach Records, making his first album in four years and why he almost drove himself crazy trying to get it right. Plus, the cast dives into:– Brandon Lake dominating Billboard’s year-end charts– The ER vs The Pitt IP controversy– Ticketmaster’s takedown– TreVeyon Henderson spotlighting persecuted Christians on the field– A chaotic game of “One Has to Go” that reveals way too much (about Andy)CHAPTERS:1:20 – '90s nostalgia, ER and the IP drama behind The Pitt10:25 – RELEVANT Buzz: Brandon Lake ruled 202515:45 – Olivia Dean takes on Ticketmaster19:50 – TreVeyon Henderson highlights persecuted Christians in Nigeria21:50 – Andy Mineo joins the show22:20 – Why his new album took four years23:40 – Perfectionism, analysis paralysis and moving faster27:10 – More new music is already loading28:35 – Andy & Marty’s 15-year friendship origin story32:05 – “One Has to Go” with Andy41:55 – Parenting, nostalgia and movies that don’t hit the same44:15 – 80s/90s PG movies were NOT PGRemember, you can watch the episode video on YouTube!Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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• Impact Conversation Series: Madi Prewett Troutt and Ben Higgins

  Two former Bachelor stars. Two very different, but impactful, post-show paths. One episode about what it really looks like to use your platform well. In this new installment of The RELEVANT Podcast: Impact Conversations, Emily Brown and Cameron Strang sit down with Madi Prewett Troutt and Ben Higgins to talk about life after reality TV, spiritual growth, calling, purpose, and how to steward influence in a way that actually matters. First, Emily talks with Madi Prewett Troutt, who has spent the last five years immersed in ministry—preaching, writing, podcasting, discipling young women, and building a life rooted deeply in Scripture and the local church. She opens up about spiritual transformation, accountability, confession, motherhood, leadership, and learning to stay true to her convictions even when it’s costly. Then Cameron sits down with Ben Higgins, who—after his time on The Bachelor—built Generous Coffee, launched multiple businesses, stepped into a major faith-centered role at iHeartRadio, and wrote a book on connection. Ben shares candidly about anxiety, purpose, fatherhood, entrepreneurship, and using business as a vehicle for generosity and Kingdom impact. If you’ve ever wondered how to live out your calling, use your platform responsibly, walk in integrity, or navigate fame and faith in a digital age—this episode is rich, honest, and deeply encouraging. Presented by World Vision.HIGHLIGHTS:01:50 — Madi Prewett Troutt02:13 — Madi on how her life has changed since The Bachelor04:57 — Moving from motivational speaking to biblical teaching07:11 — How moving and finding a new church shaped her spiritual growth09:57 — How Madi discerns what God is calling her to speak into12:21 — Choosing conviction over comfort16:53 — Breaking secret sin cycles and finding freedom22:14 — Protecting peace and setting boundaries on social media28:23 — Why Madi launched her podcast and how God led the timing33:37 — Learning patience when God says “wait”38:21 — Ben Higgins41:28 — Life/work balance as a new dad43:30 — What Ben does for work now45:49 — How his role at iHeartRadio is expanding into faith initiatives50:39 — Rethinking conferences, creativity, and reaching the disconnected52:29 — Mike Foster’s coaching 56:03 — Restaurant ventures, investing and avoiding AI-replaceable spaces59:16 — Why his new book is about connection (not fame)1:02:11 — Feeling like an outsider and the moment everything changed1:04:47 — How vulnerability unexpectedly connected him with millions1:07:21 — Did The Bachelor change him?1:10:06 — A friend’s advice that shifted his entire approach to fameAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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• Episode 1278: Rend Collective's Chris Llewellyn

  Chris Llewellyn from Irish folk worship band Rend Collective joins us to talk about the band’s new album 'Christmas in Belfast,' the surprising Irish traditions behind it and what it’s like navigating life between Ireland and Nashville.We also break down the biggest stories in faith and culture, including NF’s record-setting Billboard debut, the wild rise of AI-generated music, and Patriots rookie TreVeyon Henderson’s faith-forward breakout. Plus, the crew swaps celebrity-encounter stories and brings Chris into a special holiday round of “One Has to Go.”CHAPTERS:02:00 – Jesse spots an SNL cast member at the airport06:30 – Marty’s celebrity encounters at LAX08:30 – Cameron’s wild Kanye West airport story09:40 – RELEVANT Buzz 09:55 – NF’s massive Billboard debut12:00 – AI music platform Suno is creating 7 million songs a day14:20 – Is AI killing creativity? The crew debates19:10 – Patriots rookie TreVeyon Henderson’s record-breaking game & public faith24:10 – Chris Llewellyn of Rend Collective24:40 – The story behind Christmas in Belfast26:40 – Irish Christmas traditions & late-night candlelit services27:50 – Gaelic football, Welsh kickers & Jesse’s confusion29:55 – Chris on moving from Ireland to Nashville31:00 – How Irish political history shaped his view of division32:15 – Holiday Edition of “One Has to Go” with Chris35:35 – Marty’s trauma with board games36:10 – Brunch vs. naps: the debate38:00 – Emily vs. “crisp evenings”39:00 – Snoopy, Peanuts, and Christmas ornament chaos40:45 – Group prayer handholding horrors43:30 – Emily’s tiny tabletop Christmas tree revelationAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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• Impact Conversation Series: Tara-Leigh Cobble and Art Rainer

  On this episode of our Impact Conversations series, we sit down with Tara-Leigh Cobble, creator of The Bible Recap — one of the most influential Bible-reading podcasts in the world. Tara-Leigh shares how The Bible Recap started, how she built a global Bible-reading community and what she’s learned about Scripture, calling and obedience along the way. If you’re trying to understand the Bible or want to stay consistent in your Bible reading plan, this conversation is for you.We also feature a bonus interview with Christian financial expert Art Rainer, who breaks down how to approach money, generosity and financial stress from a biblical perspective. If you’re looking for Christian financial advice, how to give when money is tight or how to steward your resources well, you’ll want to hear this.Presented by World Vision.CHAPTERS:02:37 — Tara-Leigh Cobble: How The Bible Recap Started06:04 — Building the podcast with a $99 mic08:45 — When the calling gets costly10:55 — The story that kept her going14:43 — Leadership, discernment and calling16:49 — Feeling unqualified but called21:09 — Advice for taking your first step23:17 — Bonus Interview: Art Rainer26:13 — Money is a tool, not a goal28:10 — How to be generous when money is tight33:31 — Giving, debt and proportional generosity37:00 — Creative ways to be generous without moneyAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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