5 live's Rugby Union Weekly

“The uncertainty is something which provokes fear. I’d like to bring as much certainty as I can to the future of my family." Scottish and Lions legend Tom Smith sits down with Elly Oldroyd to discuss dealing with cancer. In August 2019 Tom was diagnosed with Stage 4 colorectal cancer which has spread to his liver and brain. He talks openly about the devastating news, the support he's received and reflects on his illustrious career.

It’s only taken two months but finally we’ve managed to get Danny, Ugo and Chris all on the same pod. They’re joined by Dylan Hartley who chats about his decision to retire, captaining England and what’s next for him. There’s more on Saracens who aren’t appealing their points deduction and fine for breaking the salary cap. Plus, there’s a look at the opening weekend of the Champions Cup, which didn’t go to plan for Danny and Chris.

Ugo Monye and Chris Ashton chat to Warren Gatland about the World Cup, his time at Wales and about his relationship with Eddie Jones. They also get him to pick his Lions captain for the tour of South Africa and Gatland reveals how he nearly ended up getting the France job. There's still plenty to discuss around Saracens and we look at Dylan Hartley's career after he announced his retirement.

It’s the biggest club rugby story since ‘Bloodgate’. Saracens have been docked 35 points and fined £5.3m for breaching salary cap rules. What impact will it have on Saracens? Are the sanctions fair or should they have been harsher? How have other clubs and players reacted to the news? We’ve interrupted Chris Jones’ holiday to bring you a special pod with Danny Care and commentator Alastair Eykyn to explain it all.

Chris Jones and Matt Dawson are back in the minibus to record another pod as they leave the Yokohama stadium, but the mood is very different a week after England's dominant victory over the All Blacks. Eddie Jones' side were outplayed by South Africa in the World Cup final so Chris and Matt try and pinpoint where it went wrong. They also discuss the significance of this victory for South Africa and their captain Siya Kolisi, and reflect on the last seven weeks in Japan.