4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

When Lysa TerKeurst experienced the painful, unwanted end of her nearly 30-year marriage, she found herself asking hard questions and searching Scripture for real answers. She didn't just need comfort—she needed clarity, truth, and a way forward.
On today's episode of the 4:13, Lysa shares the resource she wishes she had during that season and tackles some of the most difficult questions many women quietly carry: Does God hate divorce? How do I move forward when I'm still angry? How do I rebuild a life I never envisioned?
She'll walk you through what the Bible says about divorce, correct some of the misguided messages often accepted, and assure you that you are not alone—even if it feels that way.
So, whether you're walking through a divorce right now, still carrying pain from years ago, or loving someone who is in the throes of it all, this conversation offers hope, truth, and practical steps for the road ahead.
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Do you ever feel let down in your daily experience as a Christian? You're not alone. Pastor and bestselling author Gary Thomas understands that frustration—which he says often comes from believing lies we don't even realize we've embraced.
Today on the 4:13, Gary unpacks the subtle deceptions that quietly shape our expectations, steal our joy, and keep us from the abundant life God promises. He reveals 12 common lies many Christians believe and—using Scripture—helps you recognize those lies and replace them with truth.
You'll learn to discern the trap of a self-centered salvation, why a family-first mentality does more harm than good, and how entitlement sneaks into our faith more easily than we think. Plus, you'll be introduced to a perspective of being rescued that can transform everything!
So, get ready to renew your mind, deepen your trust, and live the life you were reborn to live!
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You may know Nicole C. Mullen as an incredible singer-songwriter, but did you know she's also a certified Bible nerd? That's right! And she not only knows the Word, but she can teach it too, bringing it to life in a powerful, practical way.
So today on the 4:13, Nicole takes us into Scripture to remind us that it's never wrong to do the right thing—even when it's difficult or costly.
Because, let's be honest, none of us are perfect, and we don't always make the wisest choices. But no matter what decisions you've made or the consequences you face, God can redeem your past and move you from regret to renewal.
As Nicole walks us through the Word and opens up about some of her own not-so-great decisions, you'll be encouraged, challenged, and reminded that hope is never off the table!
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Before we rush into the new year, KC and I are taking a moment to look back on 2025 — the fun moments, the hard moments, the lessons learned (and unlearned), and the ways God has faithfully carried us through it all.
We hope this conversation inspires you to reflect on your own year, celebrate what God has done, and step forward with expectancy for all He has ahead.
Happy New Year! 🎉
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This is a very merry episode of the 4:13 Podcast today because … it's Christmas, and we want to sprinkle a little extra joy into your celebration! 
We're talking about the wonder and joy of Christmas—but also the mess of Christmas, because let's be real, it can get a little messy, right? So, we'll laugh together, share a few stories, and remind your heart that Jesus shows up right in the middle of the mess to bring you hope and peace!
And to top it off, we're ending this episode with a very special song called "HOPE (Behold Emmanuel)" for you to carry with you throughout this Christmas season. So, be sure to listen until the very end.
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