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  • EP 444 – Dr. Benjamin Balas on Chess Streaks, Blunders, and Brain Science
    Dr. Benjamin (Ben) Balas is an MIT-educated professor of psychology at North Dakota State University, where his research focuses on visual recognition. He’s also a passionate chess player who blogs frequently about the intersection of science and chess. On his popular LiChess blog, Ben (aka NDPatzer) has explored topics like whether streakiness exists in chess, the science of blunders, and how confirmation bias influences decision-making over the board. In our conversation, we touch on all of these topics and also delve into Ben’s personal chess journey. He shares the scientific studies he believes every chess player should know about — and, as with his writing, I learned alot from chatting with Ben.  Thanks to our sponsor, Chessable.com! If you sign up for Chessable Pro in order to unlock discounts and additional features, be sure to use the following link: https://www.chessable.com/pro/?utm_source=affiliate&utm_medium=benjohnson&utm_campaign=pro And you can check out their new offerings here: https://www.chessable.com/courses/all/new/ https://www.perpetualchesspod.com/partners 0:02- What got Ben back into chess during the pandemic after decades away? Mentioned: Ben’s interview with Dr. Can Kabadayi on the Chess Cognition podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrzblptGNjw 0:07- What experience got Ben thinking about whether momentum exists in chess? Mentioned:  https://lichess.org/@/NDpatzer/blog/science-of-chess-winning-streaks-losing-streaks-and-skill/K4NmnE6b Also mentioned, FM Nate Solon’s post: https://zwischenzug.substack.com/p/yes-theres-luck-in-chess The Hot Hand by Benjamin Cohen: https://www.amazon.com/Hot-Hand-Mystery-Science-Streaks/dp/0062820729 17:00- What is Dr. Balas' approach to chess improvement?  Mentioned:  100 Endgames You Must Know, The Woodpecker Method, Dr. Katie Wissman  19:00- What does Dr. Balas think of the Woodpecker Method as a study program? 21:00- 3 Scientific Studies Chess Players Should Know About, starting with “Chunking”  Mentioned: IM Fernand Gobet  24:00- Study #2- Stronger players are much better at avoiding confirmation bias  29:00- Dr. Balas has played two OTB tournaments since regaining an interest in chess a few years ago. How were these experiences?  31:00- Study #3- The importance of moving your eyes during a chess game!  Mentioned: Preventing Blunders in Chess by Dr. Can Kabadayi  https://www.chessable.com/preventing-blunders-in-chess/course/258968/ 35:00- Why are chess professionals scientifically studied so much more often than amateurs?  39:00- What is next for Ben’s chess? 42:00- If Dr. Balas received funding to do a  scientific study on chess, what would he research?  44:00- Dr. Balas’ closing chess improvement advice. Mentioned: Blindfold Chess https://www.amazon.com/Blindfold-Chess-Psychology-Techniques-Champions/dp/0786475269/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1FSJ92B6Q46H0&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Rrt6OpihMGjYaHTqvOcHzb6-vZpowdj6xWtFMGFyA6gRhFRzSVmJdBCFgP7UkFD4FUNk4TmKhse2uqjgQ7ZXcuEf5znf67nC8ENj73IDNspElRzfCfxGNYTtHoUUnJTzb_2oecXU8NIk7B4ZJj1mIw.uelpnrMJtCfCmpe6iIa0qWyDhlE32PRwGmXsv5_MeBw&dib_tag=se&keywords=blindfold+chess&qid=1753302264&s=books&sprefix=blindfold+ches%2Cstripbooks%2C112&sr=1-4 Book Recap Podcast discussing Blindfold Chess: History, Psychology, Techniques, Champions, World Records, and Important Games https://www.perpetualchesspod.com/new-blog/2020/8/29/book-recap-talking-blindfold-chess-with-guest-co-host-jerry-wells 47:00- Thanks to Ben for joining, here is how to keep up with his work:  Lichess: https://lichess.org/@/NDpatzer/blog Substack: https://benbalas.substack.com/ And don’t forget to sub the Perpetual Chess Linkfest: https://benjohnson.substack.com/ Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • EP 443- GM Jan Gustafsson on Building Opening Repertoires, Freestyle Chess, Father Time, and the Usual Array of Nonsense
    Opening expert, Twitch streamer, former Team Magnus member, and longtime friend of the pod, GM Jan Gustafsson is back for another fun and far-reaching interview! We talk about the origins of his new Chessable course on the Austrian Defense, how his approach to repertoire building has evolved, and get his take on the recent Freestyle Chess drama in Vegas. Jan also reflects on the legacy of GM Boris Spassky, laments his struggles with memory and motivation, and mourns the end (for now) of FM Donny Ariel’s quest for online stardom. Per tradition, we also touch on non-chess subjects such as parenting, basketball, and TV shows and Jan’s appearance is as entertaining as ever.  Thanks to our sponsor, Chessable.com! If you sign up for Chessable Pro in order to unlock discounts and additional features, be sure to use the following link: https://www.chessable.com/pro/?utm_source=affiliate&utm_medium=benjohnson&utm_campaign=pro And you can check out their new offerings here: https://www.chessable.com/courses/all/new/ https://www.perpetualchesspod.com/partners 0:02- Brief parenting discussion 0:04- How does Jan go about learning an opening? How did he choose the lines for a course on The Austrian attack? 0:11- The time Jan had to join the Chess.com anti-cheating Zoom call during Titled Tuesday 0:15- How was Jan’s most recent tournament, the Thailand Open?  0:18- What did Jan think of the first day of the Las Vegas Freestyle tournament?  0:19- What will Jan be doing at the E-Sports World Cup? (plus a little chess Bundesliga talk) Mentioned: GM Peter Heine Nielsen-Gustafsson 2025- https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=2833767 22:00- Back to discussion of the freestyle tournament Mentioned: Clip of GM Hans Niemann celebrating Aronian’s upset of Carlsen https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/1m1xeex/hans_claps_and_bows_down_to_levon_aronian/ 25:00- Should spectators at major chess events be allowed to bring phones? 28:00- Brief basketball talk- When will The Rights to Ricky Sanchez podcast have GM Jan Gustafsson on their podcast? 31:00- FIDE Women’s World Cup- Who is Jan rooting for? 32:00- Did Jan ever meet recently deceased Former World Champion Boris Spassky?  35:00- What happened to FM Donny Ariel’s quest for the grandmaster title? Mentioned: EP 421 with GM Jan Gustafsson and FM Donny Ariel https://www.perpetualchesspod.com/new-blog/2025/2/11/ep-421-gm-jan-gustafsson-and-fm-donny-ariel-discussion-can-a-mid-40s-working-dad-make-grandmaster-without-doing-any-worknbsp 43:00- I asked Chat GPT to come up with 20 questions for Jan Gustafsson. Jan answers about 18 of them! We discuss the nature of chess talent, what makes Magnus special, Jan’s favorite chess job, and more.  Mentioned: Jan and GM Peter Heine Nielsen’s Top 50 Players Series: https://www.chess.com/lessons/hall-of-fame-the-50-greatest-chess-players-of-all-time 1:07:00- Thanks as always to GM Jan Gustafsson for joining! Here is how to keep up with him: Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/janistantv Chessable courses: https://www.chessable.com/author/JanGustafsson/ If you would like to help support Perpetual Chess via Patreon, you can do so here: https://www.patreon.com/c/perpetualchess Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • EP 442- GM Johan Hellsten: Why Defending Is So Difficult — And How to Improve At It
    EP 442- GM Johan Hellsten: Why Defending Is So Difficult — And How to Improve At It  GM Johan Hellsten returns to Perpetual Chess for a deep dive into one of the most overlooked yet essential chess skills: defense. Johan is the 2006 Swedish National Champion, and a renowned author and coach, best known for his Mastering Chess series. In this interview, he shares insights from his latest book and Chessable course, Mastering Chess Defense (also available in print,) reflecting on why defending is often harder than attacking, which players are best to study to improve your defensive play, and key concepts like “the lifeline.” Johan is a true professional, and always a pleasure to talk chess with. Timestamps of topics discussed are below. Thanks to our sponsor, Chessable.com! If you sign up for Chessable Pro in order to unlock discounts and additional features, be sure to use the following link: https://www.chessable.com/pro/?utm_source=affiliate&utm_medium=benjohnson&utm_campaign=pro And you can check out their new offerings here: https://www.chessable.com/courses/all/new/ https://www.perpetualchesspod.com/partners 0:00- We begin with an impromptu discussion of obscure chess opening names including the Austrian Defense, the Tartakower Caro Kann, The Fegatello Italian, and the Polerio Italian Defense 10:00- Why is it harder for people to spot defensive resources than tactics?  15:00- How did Johan find so many good defensive examples?  Check out Johan’s separate course on defense for Chessmood members: https://chessmood.com/course/chess-defense  21:00- Patreon mailbag question: “How should amateur players incorporate chess defense into their thinking processes?” 29:00- What is the definition of defense?  31:00- Did Johan ever meet legendary GM Miguel Najdorf?  Mentioned: El Viejo by GM Zenon Franco Najdorf X Najdorf by Liliana Najdorf  Kasparov vs. Najdorf Bugojno 1982 https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1069983 36:00- If choosing between Kasparov, Karpov, Korchnoi, Spassky, whose games were the most instructive?  Mentioned: GM Emmanuel Berg Check out Johan’s Youtube videos about Petrosian and Ulf Andersson here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYAkeoP9TTs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDo--EPHnfc 42:00- More book recs from Johan! Mentioned: Timman’s Triumphs: https://www.amazon.com/Timmans-Triumphs-100-Best-Games/dp/9056919172 Speed Demon: https://www.amazon.com/Speed-Demon-Fascinating-Tragic-Vyzhmanavin/dp/9493257819 GM Judit Polgar’s Quality Chess Trilogy 46:00- What is the chess defensive resource that is sometimes referred to as “the lifeline?” Mentioned: GM Hellsten’s Chessmood article about it: https://chessmood.com/blog/lifeline-chess-tactic Or move 32 of this Korchnoi-Fisher 1962 Curaco game: https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044560 49:00- What do the concepts of “Evolution and revolution” have to do with chess defense? Mentioned: GM Josif Dorfman’s “The Method” https://www.abebooks.com/Method-Chess-Dorfman-Iossif-Sarl-Game/31453994460/bd 52:00- More chess book talk! Mentioned: Boris Spassky’s Best Games  https://www.amazon.com/Boris-Spasskys-Best-Games-Rising/dp/1784832006 53:00- Check out the two defensive puzzles we discuss in this Lichess study: https://lichess.org/study/1AlpJ6gn/3b3ZdebD Spassky-Geller move 35- https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1049395 Carlsen-Duda 2025 is included and annotated by NM Anthony Levin for Chess.com here (as well as in the LiChess study): https://www.chess.com/news/view/2025-cct-chesscom-classic-playoffs-day-1 Thanks to Johan for joining me again, you can reach him via his Chess.com page: https://www.chess.com/member/jhellsten And check out his Chessable courses here: https://www.chessable.com/author/JohanHellsten/ And his books here If you would like to join the Perpetual Chess Patreon community for access to ad-free episodes and other perks,  you can do so here: https://www.patreon.com/c/perpetualchess Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • EP 441- WCM Hannah Sayce: The 24-year old Twitch Streamer on the Key Factors Behind Her Rapid Rise to the WCM Title
    In just a few years, 24-year-old Australian Twitch streamer Hannah Sayce went from playing casual online games during lockdown to earning the Woman Candidate Master (WCM) title and competing in international tournaments. Her post-lockdown rise has taken her from below 1000 to a 2300 Chess.com blitz rating. In this conversation, Hannah shares the highs and lows of her chess journey and the strategies behind her rapid improvement. Key turning points included learning to slow down at the board and forcing herself to embrace endgame study despite her resistance. Hannah’s rapid progress is inspiring to young girls and adult improvers alike—and it was fun to hear her story. Timestamps of topics discussed are below. Thanks to our sponsor, Chessable.com! If you sign up for Chessable Pro in order to unlock discounts and additional features, be sure to use the following link: https://www.chessable.com/pro/?utm_source=affiliate&utm_medium=benjohnson&utm_campaign=pro And you can check out their new offerings here: https://www.chessable.com/courses/all/new/ https://www.perpetualchesspod.com/partners 0:02- What is Hannah’s approach to streaming and prepping for Titled Tuesdays.  Mentioned:  7:00- Overcoming the Nerves of OTB chess  12:00- We discuss Hannah’s chess improvement philosophy as originally laid out in her popular YouTube video, How I Went from 700 to 2200 in 2 Years.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCBGNjddiTE Specifically she touched these 7 themes: Play longer time controls  Developing calculating skills  Decision journal  Analyze your games  Practice your tactics Calculate before you move  Study master games 18:00- How Hannah will work on her endgames  Mentioned: Notjowol on Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/notjowol 20:00- Why does Hannah stream the lessons that she gets?  21:00- Hannah’s current chess goals 22:00- How did Hannah get into chess?  24:00- Hannah’s advice for girls getting into chess 28:00- Hannah’s favorites chess books and authors Mentioned: Modern Chess Openings, IM Jeremy Silman, GM Yasser Seirawan  30:00- Hannah’s favorite Chess Youtubers: Mentioned: IM Eric Rosen, GM Daniel Naroditsky, GM Ben Finegold, Hanging Pawns  32:00- What is the chess scene like in Melbourne? 33:00- Hannah’s favorite OTB tournament  Mentioned: The Rilton Cup  35:00- Hannah’s post-university plans and non-chess hobbies  39:00- Thanks to Hannah for joining the show! Here is how to follow her continued progress:  Hannah’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anichessgame/?hl=en Hannah’s Twitch:  https://www.twitch.tv/hannahsayce Hannah’s Chess.com: https://www.chess.com/member/hannahsaycestreams YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hannahsayce1 If you would like to join the Perpetual Chess Patreon community for access to ad-free episodes and other perks,  you can do so here: https://www.patreon.com/c/perpetualchess Check out special offers for free trials and/or discounts from our partner websites including Chessmood, ChessDojo, and Chess.com via the link below: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • EP 440- GM Alexandr Fier: “I Blunder a Lot” – One of the World’s Most Active Grandmasters on Intuition, Endgame Studies, and Maintaining His Love For the Game
    GM Alexandr Fier is a 5 time champion of Brazil and 9 time chess Olympian. He also recently qualified for the FIDE World Cup for the 8th time by finishing tied for first at the American Continental tournament. But aside from all of his impressive accomplishments, what interests me most about GM Fier is how frequently he competes.  Last year alone, he played nearly 200 classical games,, and he has now travelled to over 50 countries. In our conversation we discussed:  How he maintains his energy and positive outlook through a busy tournament calendar Why he thinks playing quickly gives him a competitive advantage. (Hence the nickname “No Fear”)  How he reacted to getting some harsh feedback from legendary trainer IM Mark Dvoretsky at age 18.  We also talked about GM Fier’s recent qualification for the 2025 FIDE World Cup, his plans for the rest of 2025, and of course, chess books. It was a pleasure to chat with one of Brazil’s top players, and I look forward to following his nonstop tournament adventures in the years to come. Thanks to our sponsor, Chessable.com! If you sign up for Chessable Pro in order to unlock discounts and additional features, be sure to use the following link: https://www.chessable.com/pro/?utm_source=affiliate&utm_medium=benjohnson&utm_campaign=pro And you can check out their new offerings here: https://www.chessable.com/courses/all/new/ https://www.perpetualchesspod.com/partners 0:02- Alexandr is one of the most active Grandmasters in the world- how does he stay motivated? 0:06- How does Alexandr prepare for opponents?  0:11- How did Alexandr begin to collaborate with Imperial sports?  0:13- How Alexandr qualified for the World Cup?  Mentioned: Fier-Shankland 2025 https://www.chess.com/events/2025-american-continental-chess-championship/05/Fier_Alexandrandr-Shankland_Sam 0:16- Why Alexandr plays quickly Mentioned: GM Giga Quparadze  18:00- What makes the World Cup special to Alexandr?  22:00- Alexandr’s early Chess Development and Influences Mentioned:  Blokh’s Combination Art, Domination by Kasparian, Laszlo Polgar’s Chess: 5334 Combinations and Games  Navara-Fier 2015 https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1787858 GM Navara’s Blog Post: https://lichess.org/@/RealDavidNavara/blog/because-we-care/fauAwr9r 26:00- Was it challenging to get chess books as a kid in Brazil?  28:00- Is chess gaining popularity in Brazil?  Mentioned: GM Rafael Leitao, GM Henrique Mecking  31:00- When did Alexandr decide to pursue chess professionally?  33:00- What languages does GM Fier speak?  35:00- Alex’s approach to following top games  37:28- How he Studies Openings and Uses Engines 39:00- Alexandr’s favorite opening authors Mentioned: GM Ivan Cheparinov, Nikolaos Ntirlis, GM Alexei Kornev  Memories of Training with Dvoretsky 42:00- Alex’s favorite chess books Mentioned: GM David Navara’s Best Games, Tal-Botvinnik 1960, The Life and Games of Mikhail Tal  44:00- Memories of a training camp with legendary trainer Mark Dvoretsky Influences and Inspirations in Chess 48:00- Why GM Fier loves endgame studies  50:00- GM Fier’s fondest memories Fier-Ryan 2009, Ireland https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1601053 Fier-Akopian 2017- https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1870136 54:00- Alex’s passion for music  55:00- Upcoming tournaments and advice for Aspiring Chess Players 1:00:00- Thanks to Alex for joining! Be sure to follow him on Instagram and Facebook https://www.facebook.com/alexandr.fier/ https://www.instagram.com/pontocego/?hl=en If you would like to help support Perpetual Chess via Patreon, you can do so here: https://www.patreon.com/perpetualchess Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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