The Peterman Pod

Fiona Fung currently supports the Claude Code team at Anthropic and was previously a Senior Director at Meta. She grew quickly through the ranks at Microsoft and Meta before joining Anthropic. I interviewed her about what she learned along the way.𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀:• Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/anthropic-eng-leader-and-ex-senior• YouTube: https://youtu.be/b5-d8u-c99s• Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:00:00 - Intro00:38 - Impact vs team health03:04 - Managing managers for the first time05:31 - Advice on mentoring others06:55 - What you should use 1 on 1s for07:56 - Leaving Microsoft for Facebook10:59 - Microsoft vs Facebook culture12:01 - Why dogfooding is important 21:25 - Joining Anthropic27:23 - Feedback that changed her career28:43 - Advice for younger self29:14 - Outro𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗙𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮:• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fionafung/𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝘆𝗮𝗻:• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman

Hi all, it's been such a fun project for me this year launching this podcast and trying my best to make the content as helpful as possibleAppreciate everyone who has taken the time to watch my videos and give feedback on how to make it betterIt wouldn't be the same without your support! Next year I plan to work hard to keep improving the content, see you in 2026𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:00:00 - Intro00:50 - Meta Distinguished Eng (Philip Su)05:23 - Amazon Principal Eng (Steve Huynh)06:23 - Google Staff Eng by 28 (Ricky Lee)07:30 - Meta Staff Eng by 25 (Evan King)08:51 - Shopify Distinguished Eng (Ilya Grigorik)10:49 - Amazon VP (Ethan Evans)12:24 - Meta Senior Staff Eng (Dwayne Reeves)13:14 - CloudKitchens CTO, Ex Uber Senior Staff (Brian Attwell)13:55 - Instagram Principal Eng (Jake Bolam)14:42 - Uber Distinguished Eng (Joakim Recht)15:03 - Creator of Claude Code, Ex Meta Principal (Boris Cherny)15:45 - Outro

Rong Yan went from a frontline manager at Meta to a Senior Director at Snapchat in 3 years. I interviewed him to ask what led to that rocketship career trajectory in management. We went over how he job hopped into his first Director role and much more.𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀:• Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/frontline-manager-at-meta-to-senior• YouTube: https://youtu.be/BHlko_Mg-Jk• Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:00:00 - Intro00:46 - Joining Facebook03:06 - Moving up into a Director role05:09 - Director skill gaps15:31 - Domain knowledge & management18:45 - LA vs SF cultures20:48 - Senior Director growth at Snapchat22:43 - Evan Spiegel stories24:59 - Recruitment at higher levels32:05 - Career planning in hindsight34:08 - Biggest career regret35:33 - How much of growth is luck?38:19 - Advice for younger self41:53 - Outro𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝗼𝗻𝗴:• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rong-yan-2004692/• Personal Website: https://cs.cmu.edu/~yanrong𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝘆𝗮𝗻:• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman

Boris Cherny is the Creator of Claude Code but few people know his full career story. I interviewed him about everything he learned growing at Meta and for insights from his time building Claude Code at Anthropic. 𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀:• Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/boris-cherny-creator-of-claude-code• YouTube: https://youtu.be/AmdLVWMdjOk• Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:00:00:00 - Intro00:00:59 - Starting at FB00:09:43 - Early side projects and book rec00:17:05 - Being under leveled00:18:55 - Staff (IC6) promo story00:25:19 - Proximity to leadership learnings00:29:36 - Scoping out work for 100s of engs00:35:31 - Senior Staff (IC7) promo story00:44:39 - How to find side projects00:50:45 - Principal (IC8) promo story00:54:20 - Building credibility in a new org01:04:23 - Joining Anthropic01:10:05 - Why Claude Code succeeded01:15:56 - Claude Code use outside of code 01:17:22 - What he thinks of competition01:22:57 - Advice for his younger self01:23:57 - Outro𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗕𝗼𝗿𝗶𝘀:• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bcherny/• X/Twitter: https://x.com/bcherny• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@boris_cherny𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝘆𝗮𝗻:• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman

Marius Schulz grew to a Senior Staff Engineer (IC7) at Instagram by redefining expectations three times (once for each promotion). We talked through each promotion and how he did it. There were also interesting learnings from when his promotion got blocked once even though he greatly exceeded expectations.𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀:• Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/instagram-senior-staff-eng-ic7-on• YouTube: https://youtu.be/OXJHfb_lZII• Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:00:00 - Intro00:55 - Choosing his specialty02:29 - Greatly exceeding expectations with no promo08:04 - Senior promo15:30 - Staff promo24:43 - Leverage and IC4/5/6 way of solving problems29:51 - Senior staff promo44:29 - Career planning past IC747:32 - Did IC7+ expectations scare him49:49 - Advice for his younger self52:29 - Outro𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗠𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘂𝘀:• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariusschulz/• X/Twitter: https://x.com/mariusschulz/• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@marius.schulz• Personal Website: https://mariusschulz.com/𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝘆𝗮𝗻:• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman