Comic Lab

Dave and Brad return from the 80th Annual National Cartoonists Society Conference and Reuben Awards with stories to tell!

They look back on ComicLab LIVE and a private tour of the newly redesigned Billy Ireland Cartoon Library & Museum!

Then it's on to the Reuben Awards, where Mark Tatulli finally won the Reuben Award after years of nominations.

But some of the best moments happened between the scheduled events. Brad gets the chance to sit down with 95-year-old cartooning legend Mort Gerberg and hear stories about the golden age of magazine cartooning — including an incredible story about a newly arrived Sergio Aragonés taking Manhattan by storm. Jim Davis shares the story behind Garfield's famous suction-cup dolls, along with his surprisingly strict 25-word rule for writing the strip. And the farewell brunch turns into an exchange of sketches, original art, and some wonderful reminders of why cartoonists come back to this event year after year.

Finally, an old collection of America's “best college cartoonists” offers an unexpected lesson about making a career in comics: You don't have to start out at the front of the pack. You just have to keep going.

ON THIS WEEK'S SHOW...

• ComicLab LIVE at the NCS Conference

• The newly redesigned Billy Ireland Cartoon Library & Museum

• Which original would you save from a museum fire?

• The Reuben Awards

• Katie Cook and Mark Tatulli take home awards

• Lunch with Dave and Eileen Blazek

• Brad's conversation with Mort Gerberg

• Mort's stories about Sergio Aragonés

• Jim Davis on writing Garfield

• The accidental origin of the Garfield suction-cup doll

• Rick Kirkman and Jerry Scott

• Original art at the farewell brunch

• ComicLab listeners at the NCS

• The NCS Cartoonist Showcase

• Why persistence matters more than being the best

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Brad Guigar is the creator of Evil Inc and the author of The Webcomics Handbook. He is available for personal consultations. Dave Kellett is the creator of Sheldon and Drive. He is the co-director of the comics documentary, Stripped.

Once again, Dave and Brad brought their podcast to the stage at the annual National Cartoonists Society Conference and Reuben Awards. They were joined by Dee Fish, Terri Libenson, and Jamar Nicholas — three cartoonists with very different creative paths and a wealth of hard-earned advice to share.

Dee Fish

Dee Fish is a cartoonist, illustrator, and writer best known for Finding Dee, her semi-autobiographical webcomic about navigating life after coming out as a transgender woman. Dee was nominated for a Reuben Award in the Best Online Shortform category.

Terri Libenson

Terri Libenson is the cartoonist and author behind the New York Times bestselling Emmie & Friends graphic-novel series. Before moving into graphic novels, she created the syndicated comic strip The Pajama Diaries and worked as a writer and illustrator for greeting cards. Her tenth Emmie & Friends book, Seriously, Celia?, arrives in September 2026.

Jamar Nicholas

Jamar Nicholas is an award-winning cartoonist, graphic novelist, and educator whose work includes the Leon series from Scholastic Graphix, beginning with Leon the Extraordinary. He also adapted Geoffrey Canada’s memoir Fist Stick Knife Gun into a graphic novel and has spent much of his career teaching and encouraging young people to tell stories through comics. The third Leon graphic novel, Leon and the Big, Big Problem, is scheduled for January 2027.

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Brad Guigar is the creator of Evil Inc and the author of The Webcomics Handbook. He is available for personal consultations. Dave Kellett is the creator of Sheldon and Drive. He is the co-director of the comics documentary, Stripped.

Today's show is brought to you by Hogan's Alley, the fantastic magazine devoted to comics history, cartoonists, and the art form we love. Visit HoganMag.com and use the discount code COMICLAB10 for 10% off.

Dave Kellett is back from San Diego Comic-Con 2026, and he brought receipts! After 27 years of exhibiting at the show, Dave just had his best Comic-Con ever — including an absolutely bonkers $6,000 Sunday.

But a big gross number doesn't necessarily mean a big payday. Brad and Dave dig into the actual economics of exhibiting at one of the world's biggest conventions: booth fees, sales tax, travel, merchandise, lost studio time, and the advantages Dave has because he lives within driving distance of San Diego. After roughly $19,600 in gross sales, Dave estimates his actual profit at about $11,000.

Then, they get into the stuff you can actually use at your next convention:

Track your sales throughout the day

When sales slow down, get active

Use drawing as theater

Pay attention to your product mix

Think about revenue per square inch

Let the market prune your merchandise

Your merchandise should say something about the buyer — not about you

SPONSORED BY HOGAN'S ALLEY

This week's episode is sponsored by Hogan's Alley, the fantastic magazine devoted to comics history, cartoonists, and the art form we love.

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MORE COMIC-CON ADVICE ON PRO TIPS

Dave had another 15–20 Comic-Con topics he wanted to cover, so we're continuing the conversation on ComicLab Pro Tips with a deeper dive into conventions, exhibiting, merchandising, and Dave's approach to making a convention financially worthwhile. To hear those episodes, join us at Patreon.com/ComicLab.

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Brad Guigar is the creator of Evil Inc and the author of The Webcomics Handbook. He is available for personal consultations. Dave Kellett is the creator of Sheldon and Drive. He is the co-director of the comics documentary, Stripped.

Cartoonist Fran Sundblad, creator of Tiff & Eve, joins Brad for a wide-ranging conversation about creating character-driven comics, finding an audience on Reddit, and learning when not to chase the algorithm.

Fran traces Tiff & Eve from its beginnings in her sketchbook to a comic that regularly reaches thousands of readers. She explains how Tiff and Eve represent two very different impulses — Tiff as the superego and Eve as the id — and shares a terrific character-development exercise: Lock your character in a room and ask what they do next. If you don't know the answer, you probably don't know the character well enough yet.

Fran and Brad also talk about finding humor in the characters themselves rather than building every strip around a traditional punchline. That approach has helped Tiff & Eve explore Fran's experiences as a trans woman while remaining first and foremost a funny comic about two friends.

In this episode:

How Tiff & Eve grew out of Fran's sketchbook

Writing two characters as opposing parts of your own personality

Fran's “locked room” test for determining whether a character is fully developed

Character-driven humor vs. setup/punchline comedy

Using comedy to make personal experiences relatable

What happens when readers interpret your comics differently than you intended

Why Fran refuses to explain a joke

Surviving hostile comments, Reddit Cares abuse, and the stranger side of online audiences

Why cartoonists should post comics to their Reddit profile, not only to individual subreddits

Learning the culture of each subreddit instead of treating Reddit as one giant audience

Formatting comics differently for different communities — including designing images so Reddit's mobile crop doesn't hide important information

Why fewer clicks usually means more readers

The danger of chasing trends, politics, and viral Reddit “meta” events simply for upvotes

Why a huge viral hit may produce surprisingly few new followers or Patreon supporters

Why effort and artistic complexity don't necessarily translate into social-media success

The value of clarity, brevity, and consistency on Reddit

Knowing when a topical comic is nevertheless necessary because it's true to the characters

Sunday Comix, a webcomic collective and email newsletter designed to help cartoonists reach readers without depending entirely on social-media algorithms

Fran's experience offers an especially useful reminder for cartoonists trying to build an audience online: don't confuse attention with audience growth. A trendy comic might earn tens of thousands of upvotes, but the work that builds a lasting readership is the work that gives people a reason to come back for your characters.

Find Fran Sundblad and Tiff & Eve:

Website: FranSundblad.com

Bluesky / Instagram: @TiffAndEveComics

Reddit: u/CrazyGnomenclature

Sunday Comix: https://sundaycomix.com/

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Brad Guigar is the creator of Evil Inc and the author of The Webcomics Handbook. He is available for personal consultations. Dave Kellett is the creator of Sheldon and Drive. He is the co-director of the comics documentary, Stripped.

Although we typically focus on the bright side of being independent cartoonists, a listener asks us to address the downside of webcomics. We'll talk about time management, burnout, financial insecurity, and reader interactions. Then we realize that all those drawbacks have one very important thing in common — and it's not what you'd expect!

TODAY’S SHOW

ComicLab gets someone engaged!

The worst parts of being a webcartoonist.

Creativity isn’t always consistent.

Success doesn’t eliminate insecurity.

The business work never disappears.

Webcomics demand interaction.

The drawbacks are the flip side of the benefits!

Is the direct market disappearing?

Grieve the comic-shop dream—and move forward.

Getting outside your comfort zone.

Comedy can strengthen dramatic storytelling.

Beware the shiny object.

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$2 — Early access to episodes
$5 — Submit a question for possible use on the show AND get the exclusive ProTips podcast. Plus $2-tier rewards.
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Brad Guigar is the creator of Evil Inc and the author of The Webcomics Handbook. He is available for personal consultations. Dave Kellett is the creator of Sheldon and Drive. He is the co-director of the comics documentary, Stripped.