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This week on The Business of Watches, we're talking to the leader behind one of the strongest turnaround stories in the industry in recent years. Guido Terreni joined Parmigiani Fleurier as CEO in January, 2021 from Bulgari and has overseen a dramatic transformation in the design, style, and fortunes of the brand founded by master watchmaker and restoration expert Michel Parmigiani in 1996, with backing from the Sandoz Family Foundation.

Under Terreni's guidance, Parmigian Fleurier has been transformed. Striving to convey the concept of "private luxury," the brand has released a series of surprising, elegant, technically innovative, and yet restrained timepieces under its Tonda PF and Toric model lines. 

The brand has done nothing less than reimagine and reinterpret classic complications, including the GMT and, most recently, the Tonda PF Chronograph Mysteriéux, which stole the show, for many, at this year's Watches and Wonders. 

In a wide-ranging conversation, Terreni unveils the philosophy behind the brand's discreet aesthetic and the structure behind its manufacture and organization. We discuss retail, production, and design concepts aimed at taking Parmigiani Fleurier to the next level in the hyper-competitive luxury space.  

Show Notes: 

1:05 The History of Parmigiani Fleurier (company website) 
1:38  Global Impact of the Collapse of Lehman Brothers (Harvard Business School) 
3:00 Early Parmigiani Fleurier And the Enduring Appeal Of Overbuilt Watches (Hodinkee) 
8:12 That Time I Wrote That 'Swatch Group' Was A Dumb Name, And What Happened Next (Hodinkee) 
16:42 Tonda PF Collection (company website) 
19:02 Hands-On: Parmigiani's New Tonda PF GMT Rattrapante Is The Understatement Of The Year (Hodinkee) 
23:50 Quiet Luxury (EFL) 
28:10 The Rise And Fall Of The Hype Watch (Hodinkee) 
31:08 Tonda PF Minute Rattranpante 
31:18 Tonda Chronograph Mysteriéux (YouTube Monochrome) 
41:39 Brand retailers 
49:36 Toric Collection (company website)

This week on The Business of Watches, we're in Wetzlar, Germany, home of the legendary camera and lens maker, Leica. Of course, Leica isn't just an optics company. Since 2015, it's been on a new mission to create watches as well, a project initiated by Leica's controlling shareholder, Dr. Andreas Kaufmann, who is not only passionate about cameras and photography, but also timepieces. 

The person in charge of Leica's nascent watch ambitions is Henrik Ekdahl, a convivial Swede who has returned to Leica after more than two decades away, spent in the executive ranks of automakers, and, most recently, watchmakers such as IWC. 

Leica's connection to watchmaking is not unwarranted. Ernst Leitz, the company's founder, studied watchmaking in Neuchâtel in the 1860s. It was partly this mechanical know-how that allowed him to begin producing optical instruments, including microscopes and cameras, in Germany and to create the foundation for the company that would become Leica. 

The latest iteration of Leica watches, launched in 2022, is currently distributed only at Leica stores and online. Less than 5,000 watches are currently produced each year by the brand, but Ekdahl says the watch division has ambitions to grow and to make further use of its manufacturing expertise through new designs and models that draw on Leica's long association with mechanics and watchmaking. 

Show Notes

0:53 100 Years of Leica: Event in Wetzlar 
2:35  Henrik Ekdahl is the new Managing Director of Ernst Leitz Werkstätten GmbH 
4:13 Cartier 
4:50 Rolls-Royce 
4:59 Mini Cooper (BMW) 
6:40 IWC Shaffhausen 
8:36 The History of Leica Watches 
11:30 Example of vintage Leica watch (eBay) 
12:36 Dr. Andreas Kaufmann on watches (YouTube) 
13:38 Reinhard Meis (Deployant) 14:37 Lehmann 
16:25 Leica Watches 
22:21 Leica Red Dot (Red-Dot-Org) 
25:59 Leica ZM 2 Monochrom 
27:00 Leica ZM 12 
27:30 Chronode 
28:51 Leica Stores 
34:01 Gerd Plange 
35:40 Leica Portugal Manufacture

Roy Davidoff has spent a life keeping up with the time. Born into a family of jewelers and a youth spent in Geneva, followed by a move to Miami, watches have been a constant throughout his professional career. 

A return to Switzerland saw stints at brands including Bovet and Jacob & Co., before becoming a dealer of vintage and pre-owned with his brother and the launch of their business  - Roy & Sacha Davidoff SA - more than a decade ago. The fraternal duo gained prominence as dealers and experts regarding the Omega Speedmaster - a specialized section of the vintage market that has most certainly had its ups and downs.

A respected name and authority in the industry, Davidoff most recently served as a jury member for The Cartier Prize For Watchmaking Talents of Tomorrow, where, alongside fellow judges including Kari Voutilainen, were tasked with making selections for creations from European watchmaking students who were chosen for their technical and artistic interpretations reconsidering different ways to tell time.

Davidoff's role as a dealer and collector demands deep knowledge and constantly taking the pulse of the secondary market, shifting tastes, and changing demands. At the high-end and elite level, the market has changed, Davidoff says, as many collectors seek assurance and certainty in modern, independent brands and watchmakers. He's candid, enthusiastic, and dedicated to the Swiss industry, where he's found a place among the brands, component makers, and collectors.

Show Notes 
0:53 Roy and Sacha Davidoff, Brothers Since 1983 
1:29 In-DepthThe Surprising Origins Of TAG Heuer's Formula 1 Watches (Hodinkee) 
2:47 National Association Of Watch And Clock Collectors 
4:09 Matthew Bain Inc. 
4:20 Bovet 
6:00 In Conversation with Hervé Schlüchter (Revolution) 
7:59 Rexhep Rexhepi (YouTube) 
8:50 Biver Watches 
9:50 Cartier Maison Des Metiers Des Arts 
10:41 Everything You Need To Know About The Omega Speedmaster (Hodinkee) 
14:14 Omega Says Ex-Employees Responsible For $3 Million Fake Omega Speedmaster 
20:46 F.P. Journe Souscription Chronomètre à Résonance Achieves $13.9 Million – Becomes Fifth Most Expensive Wristwatch Ever Sold (Hodinkee) 
28:00 Breguet 
32:32 Rolex Certified Pre-Owned 
34:05 Cartier Prize For Watchmaking Talents of Tomorrow 
39:03 Jean-Pierre Hagmann (Hodinkee)

This week on The Business of Watches, we take your questions on the business of timekeeping. We're joined by a swath of the Hodinkee team, including Editor-in-Chief James Stacey, Senior Editor Mark Kauzlarich, and Hodinkee Editor TanTan Wang. 

We're answering your questions and marking 30 episodes of BoW. You submitted some excellent questions, including how changes in 3D printing technology will impact watch movement manufacturing, whether watch brands consider enthusiasts' preferences in their design and release schedules, and what the future of multi-brand watch boutiques looks like. 

Show Notes 
1:18 F.P. Journe Souscription Chronomètre à Résonance Achieves $13.9 Million – Becomes Fifth Most Expensive Wristwatch Ever Sold (Hodinkee) 
2:35 Kari Voutilainen 
2:47 Marteau: The Heat Wave 
4:08 The Barrelhand Monolith Has Landed (Hodinkee) 
11:45 Ming Polymesh (Hodinkee) 
12:40 Seiko Watch Corporation President Akio Naito (The Business of Watches) 
13:10 Peanuts Watches by Citizen (collectpeanuts.com) 
15:03 Timex 
15:50 We Criticize The Wrong Thing When We Attack Date Windows (Hodinkee) 
16:40 Hands-On: Understanding The New Breguet Type XX And Type 20 
22:27 One To Watch: Brew Watch Co. (Hodinkee) 
27:00 A. Lange & Söhne  North America boutiques 
30:15 Photo Report: The 2025 Toronto Timepiece Show (Hodinkee) 
33:05 Rummele's Jewelers Green Bay Wisconsin

This week on The Business of Watches, a brand we don't talk about a lot on this channel - Jacob & Co. Complicated, audacious, and expensive, Jacob & Co. watches hold a unique position in the industry. The brand enjoyed a strong 2025, growing sales and volumes, according to estimates by Morgan Stanley and LuxeConsult, bucking the industry trend. 

And the brand recently got some high-profile exposure on the wrist of the Roland Garros winner with French Open champion Alexander Zverev wearing Jacob & Co. during his matches and on the podium.

We sat down in Geneva with Benjamin Arabov, the Chief Executive Officer of Jacob & Co., to talk about the brand's operations and strategy. You might be surprised at how Jacob & Co. watches are produced, the size of its production, and how the brand is being impacted by the war in the Middle East.

Finally, looking ahead to next week's episode, number 30 in the history of The Business of Watches, we're planning a special Q&A episode and will gather some of the Hodinkee team, including Editor-In-Chief James Stacey and Editors Mark Kauzlarich and TanTan Wang, to answer your business-related questions. Want to offer up a question? Please drop it in the comments on this episode's page on Hodinkee.com. We're looking forward to hearing from you and answering your questions on all things watches and business! 

Show Notes 

0:40 Rolex And Cartier Are In Another League – A Deep Dive On The Pains And Gains In Morgan Stanley's "Swiss Watcher" Report (Hodinkee) 
1:13 Chopard plans to cut jobs in Val-de-Travers (Le Temps) (French, paywall) 
2:59 Chopard plans to cut around 30 jobs (RTS Info) 
3:20 Swiss Watch Export Data for April (FHS) 
4:35 Jacob & Co. 
5:45 CEO Benjamin Arabov Triples Sales In Five Years (Bilan French)) 
10:20 Jacob & Co. Collaborates On Exclusive Watch With Salman Khan (Watch Pro) 
13:46 Concepto Watch Factory (company website) 
14:35 Jacob Arabo / Arabov (Wikipedia) 
15:17 Astronomia Regulator 
18:50 Our Favorite Guilty Pleasure Watches Of 2018 (Hodinkee) 
21:15 Godfather II Watch (Jacob & Co.) 
25:01 In-Depth: How The Five Time Zone Shaped Modern Watch Culture (Malaika Crawford Hodinkee)