It Shipped That Way

Wealthsimple Co-Founder and CPO Brett Huneycutt shares lessons from building a 1500-person company recently valued at $10B. He relates the underlying wisdom of “Launch now”, how early dogfooding and short cycle times increase both speed and quality, attention to detail as a brand promise, where product decisions should be taste-driven vs. data-driven, and how to hire people you would want to work for.<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/zokVUFCJzMo">Wealthsimple Presents: The End of Banking</a> on YouTube</li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/bretthuneycutt">Brett Huneycutt on X</a></li>
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It Shipped That Way is supported by Steamclock Software and Forestwalk Labs.

Zapier’s first PM and now VP of Product Chris Geoghegan joins us to discuss the relationship between deterministic and LLM-powered automations, scaling a transparent and fully-remote company from millions in revenue to hundreds of millions, whether PM roles are becoming more or less important today, disrupting yourself before anybody else does, and the value of knowing SQL.<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisgeoghegan/">Chris Geoghegan</a> on LinkedIn</li>
<li><a href="https://maven.com/p/0a96cb/cursor-isn-t-just-for-coding-how-ai-native-p-ms-work">Cursor for PMs course</a> from Tal Raviv</li>
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It Shipped That Way is supported by Steamclock Software and Forestwalk Labs.

Jane App Co-Founder & Co-CEO Trevor Johnston shares lessons from building a vertical SaaS that now serves hundreds of thousands of clinicians worldwide. We discuss the geometric power of referrals, obsessing over churn, turning your customers into your salespeople, scaling product engineering past Dunbar’s number, transcending a Rails monolith, and finding the fun in 6 hours of Zoom meetings.<ul>
<li><a href="https://jane.app">Jane App</a></li>
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It Shipped That Way is supported by Steamclock Software and Forestwalk Labs.

Lorilyn McCue, head of AI product at Superhuman, joins to share what she’s learned building LLM-powered products. She talks about how Superhuman executes on shipping delightful software, how to pursue both attention to detail and rapid iteration, optimizing your roadmap for learning, questions that are surprisingly easy (and hard) for LLMs, evaluation and testing of AI-powered features, and ruthlessly prioritizing the user.<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://blog.superhuman.com/">Superhuman Blog</a></li>
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It Shipped That Way is supported by Steamclock Software and Forestwalk Labs.

Milun Tesovic, founder of Metrolyrics, Cmd, and Gitalytics – and now Parter at Expa – shares lessons learned building startups. We talk about building the largest lyrics site in the world, turning organizational dysfunction into startup ideas, solving problems without making people change their behaviour, getting acquired by Github a month after launch, making early hires on a product team, and how to get a great domain with one weird trick.<ul>
<li><a href="https://expa.com/">expa.com</a></li>
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It Shipped That Way is supported by Steamclock Software and Forestwalk Labs.