Knowledge for Teachers

In this episode of Knowledge for Teachers, host Brendan Lee speaks with Natalie Wexler, education writer and author of The Knowledge Gap, The Writing Revolution, and Beyond the Science of Reading. Together they explore what truly drives reading comprehension and why knowledge rich instruction is essential for every learner. Natalie unpacks the surprising limits of treating comprehension as a set of isolated skills, explains how background knowledge shapes understanding in powerful ways, and shows why writing can be one of the most effective tools for securing learning. Listeners will also hear how cognitive load theory connects to literacy and what strong knowledge building lessons look like in real classrooms. A practical and thought provoking conversation for teachers and leaders who want to strengthen literacy through the lens of research.

Resources mentioned:

The Knowledge Gap by Natalie Wexler

The Writing Revolution by Judith Hochman and Natalie Wexler

Beyond the Science of Reading by Natalie Wexler

Why Don’t Students Like School by Daniel Willingham

You can connect with Natalie:

Twitter/X: @natwexler

Linkedin

Website: nataliewexler.com

Substack: http://nataliewexler.substack.com

 

You can connect with Brendan:

Twitter/X: @learnwithmrlee

Facebook: @learningwithmrlee

Linkedin: @brendan-lee-kft

Website: learnwithlee.net

 

Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast: 
https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast

 

The Primary Maths Instruction Framework
For teachers
This is a three day online course for teachers where we focus on how learning happens and how to design maths lessons that support acquisition, build fluency and help students generalise what they know.

Register here

Implementing Effective Primary Maths Instruction
For School Leaders
This is a two day online course for school and middle leaders and it is all about implementation. We look closely at curriculum and lesson design, assessment, coaching and the systems that help teachers change practice in a sustainable way.

Register here

In this episode, Brendan sits down with Ingrid Sealey, founder of Teach Well, to explore the hidden nuance behind great teaching. Drawing on her work with thousands of teachers across Australia, Ingrid shares what she has learned about the small deliberate practices that make a real difference for students.

They unpack why clarity matters more than complexity, how spaced practice can shift long-term learning, and why full participation is not about getting every student to join in but about getting every student to think. Ingrid also explains why explicit instruction is not a script but a way to support better decision making in the classroom.

The conversation also dives into her new bookTeach Well’s Instruction & Coaching Companion, which captures the core practices and insights that have shaped Teach Well’s approach. Ingrid reflects on how the book came together and how teachers can use it to make practical confident changes in their everyday work.

They also discuss how professional learning can move beyond one off workshops and become something that genuinely changes practice. Ingrid offers insights from Teach Well’s long-term partnerships and shares examples of what happens when teachers work on small tweaks over time.

This is a thoughtful and practical episode for anyone who wants to refine their craft and understand what really drives effective teaching. If you are looking for ideas you can take straight back to your classroom or leadership team, this one is full of them.

Resources mentioned:

Teach Well’s Instruction & Coaching Companion

Rosenshine’s Principles of Instruction – Barak Rosenshine

Why Don’t Students Like School – Daniel Willingham

Dylan Wiliam – formative assessment and full participation strategies

Explicit Direct Instruction (EDI) – John Hollingsworth and Silvia Ybarra

You can connect with Ingrid:

Linkedin

Twiiter/X: @TeachWellAus

Teach Well Website: teach-well.au

 

You can connect with Brendan:

Twitter/X: @learnwithmrlee

Facebook: @learningwithmrlee

Linkedin: @brendan-lee-kft

Website: learnwithlee.net

 

Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast: 
https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast

Evidence in Action: The Primary Maths Partnership


A long-term professional learning partnership built around what actually works.
This 24 month program provides schools with 20+ hours of structured professional learning grounded in the science of learning spaced out over time — including explicit instruction, daily reviews, fluency-building, and problem-solving.

We work together to create a practical, sustainable implementation plan — so what you learn becomes what you do.
Optional Add-ons:
✓ Lesson modelling
✓ Leadership implementation sessions
✓ Coaching and feedback cycles
✓ Ongoing Q&A or online check-ins

Learn more > [email protected]

In this episode, Brendan Lee speaks with Sarah Asome, principal of Bentleigh West Primary School and award-winning educator known for her leadership in evidence-based practice. Together, they unpack what Multi-Tiered Systems of Support (MTSS) really looks like in action beyond buzzwords and flowcharts. Sarah shares how her school aligns Tier 1 teaching, intervention and extension to ensure every student thrives, not just those who struggle. Listeners will hear how Bentleigh West’s team uses data to drive decisions, keeps variance low across classrooms, and extends students at the top through what Sarah calls a “diamond model” of support. This episode offers a practical, whole-school view of MTSS, one grounded in strong leadership, clear systems, and a belief that consistency creates equity.



Resources mentioned:



DIBELS (Dynamic Indicators of Basic Early Literacy Skills)


Spelling Mastery


The Writing Revolution (Judith Hochman & Natalie Wexler)


Letters Course (Language Essentials for Teachers of Reading and Spelling – LETRS)


Story Champs


Reading Doctor Program (Flinders University)


Times Tables Rock Stars


New Wave Mental Maths


Core Knowledge Curriculum


Response to Intervention (RTI) Diamond model


Anita Archer – Explicit Instruction


Endowment Foundation research (Education Endowment Foundation, on education support and learned helplessness)


Victorian Lesson Plans



You can connect with Sarah:


Twitter/X: @SarahAsome



Linkedin: @sarah-asome



 



You can connect with Brendan:


Twitter: @learnwithmrlee



Facebook: @learningwithmrlee



Website: learnwithlee.net



 



Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast: 


https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast



About Sarah Asome

Sarah Asome is a highly experienced educator and the current Principal at Bentleigh West Primary School. She has also worked in the UK and Singapore. Sarah has been instrumental leading the change at BWPS but also been able to support many colleagues State, Nationwide and in New Zealand to implement evidence-based literacy instruction in their schools. This has led to a significant increase in literacy and numeracy levels which now places BWPS as a high performing school. Recently, Sarah was part of the team working on ten Victorian Lesson Plans for Primary English including text units, spelling and grammar and punctuation. 


In 2015, Sarah was awarded ‘Outstanding Primary Teacher’ in the Victorian Education Excellence Awards. She has appeared in “Outside the Square ‘a DVD resource for teachers and in 2017 was featured on SBS Insight – ‘A Teacher Who Changed My Life’.  Sarah has completed numerous courses including Louisa Moat’s LETRS training, Dyslexia Action (UK) and is a Certified Dyslexia, Reading and Orton-Gillingham specialist and trainer for Australia (OGI international inc). Recently, Sarah completed her Masters in Instructional Leadership at Melbourne University.


In 2023, Bentleigh West Primary School won the Victorian Education Excellence Award (VEEA) for ‘Outstanding Inclusion Education’.

Evidence in Action: The Primary Maths Partnership

A long-term professional learning partnership built around what actually works.
This 24 month program provides schools with 20+ hours of structured professional learning grounded in the science of learning spaced out over time — including explicit instruction, daily reviews, fluency-building, and problem-solving.

We work together to create a practical, sustainable implementation plan — so what you learn becomes what you do.
Optional Add-ons:
✓ Lesson modelling
✓ Leadership implementation sessions
✓ Coaching and feedback cycles
✓ Ongoing Q&A or online check-ins

Learn more > [email protected]

What if forgetting wasn’t failure, but actually part of the learning process?

 

In this episode of Knowledge for Teachers, Brendan Lee sits down with bestselling author and educator Kate Jones to explore what retrieval practice really looks like in the classroom. Kate shares practical strategies for making retrieval a habit, clears up common misconceptions, and shows how small tweaks — from scaffolding questions to giving feedback that sticks — can transform learning.

 

Along the way, you’ll hear stories from Kate’s own teaching journey, insights from research and creative ideas teachers can use right away. Whether you’re just starting out with retrieval or looking to deepen your practice, this episode will leave you with simple, sustainable ways to help knowledge stick and build your students’ confidence.

Resources mentioned:

Why Students Don’t Like School — Daniel Willingham

Love to Teach — Kate Jones

Retrieval Practice series (multiple books) — Kate Jones

Retrieval Practice: Myths, Mutations and Mistakes (free ebook, Evidence Based Education) — Kate Jones

Flashcards ebook (Evidence Based Education) — Kate Jones

ResearchEd Guide to Cognitive Science (Kate wrote chapters on retrieval and spacing; Jonathan Firth on interleaving)

Dunlosky (2013) - Strengthening the Student Toolbox

Retrievalpractice.org (Pooja Agarwal’s meta-analysis of classroom studies)

Carousel Learning (Adam Boxer)

TES (retrieval templates)

You can connect with:

Twitter/X: @KateJones_teach

Email: [email protected]

Website: https://www.katejoneseducation.com/

 

You can connect with Brendan:

Twitter/X: @learnwithmrlee

Facebook: @learningwithmrlee

Linkedin: @brendan-lee-kft

Website: learnwithlee.net

 

Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast: 
https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast

 

enuine research from marketing spin, why fluency is about much more than speed, and the dangers of relying on “engagement” as a proxy for learning. Anna also highlights simple, practical strategies—like cover-copy-compare and spaced retrieval—that help students build the confidence they need to tackle more complex maths.

If you’ve ever wondered how to cut through the noise and focus on what truly improves student outcomes, this conversation is packed with insights you can take straight back to your classroom.

Resources mentioned:

Wise Math (advocacy group)

Archimedes Math School

JUMP Math (Canadian maths program)

Singapore Primary Math Program

ResearchEd (conference, where Anna presented)

Chalk and Talk (Anna Stokke’s podcast)

 

You can connect with Anna:

Twitter/X: @rastokke

Linkedin

Website: https://www.annastokke.com/

 

You can connect with Brendan:

Twitter/X: @learnwithmrlee

Facebook: @learningwithmrlee

Linkedin: @brendan-lee-kft

Website: learnwithlee.net

 

Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast: 
https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast

 

About 
Dr. Anna Stokke is a Professor in the Department of Mathematics and Statistics at the University of Winnipeg. She is a recipient of a 3M National Teaching Fellowship, which is Canada's most prestigious award for teaching excellence and educational leadership at the post-secondary level. She is co-founder and President of the non-profit organization Archimedes Math Schools, which delivers after-school math classes for children. She hosts the popular math education podcast Chalk & Talk, where she discusses evidence-informed math teaching with leading education experts.

 

2025 Australian School Improvement Summit
The 2025 Australian School Improvement Summit is coming to Sydney on Wednesday 29 October — a one-day event bringing together system leaders, researchers, principals, and expert practitioners to focus on what works in schools, and how to make it happen at scale.

Hear from leading voices like Natalie Wexler (The Knowledge Gap), curriculum expert Dr Ben Jensen, and school leaders Lisa Holt (Rosebud Secondary College), Manisha Gazula (Marsden Road Public School), and Dr Greg Ashman (Ballarat Clarendon College).

If you’re a school leader or educator committed to improving outcomes for every student — and believe in doing fewer things, better — this is an event not to miss.

Special offer for listeners: 20% off full-price tickets with code LearnWithLee.
Check out the full program and register here: https://shorturl.at/Ku9v4

In this episode of Knowledge for Teachers, I sit down with Dr. Anna Stokke—mathematician, professor, and host of the Chalk and Talk podcast—to unpack what really works in maths education. Anna shares her journey from academic research to advocacy, and why she’s become such a strong voice for evidence-informed teaching.

We explore how to separate genuine research from marketing spin, why fluency is about much more than speed, and the dangers of relying on “engagement” as a proxy for learning. Anna also highlights simple, practical strategies—like cover-copy-compare and spaced retrieval—that help students build the confidence they need to tackle more complex maths.

If you’ve ever wondered how to cut through the noise and focus on what truly improves student outcomes, this conversation is packed with insights you can take straight back to your classroom.

Resources mentioned:

Wise Math (advocacy group)

Archimedes Math School

JUMP Math (Canadian maths program)

Singapore Primary Math Program

ResearchEd (conference, where Anna presented)

Chalk and Talk (Anna Stokke’s podcast)

 

You can connect with Anna:

Twitter/X: @rastokke

Linkedin

Website: https://www.annastokke.com/

 

You can connect with Brendan:

Twitter/X: @learnwithmrlee

Facebook: @learningwithmrlee

Linkedin: @brendan-lee-kft

Website: learnwithlee.net

 

Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast: 
https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast

 

About 
Dr. Anna Stokke is a Professor in the Department of Mathematics and Statistics at the University of Winnipeg. She is a recipient of a 3M National Teaching Fellowship, which is Canada's most prestigious award for teaching excellence and educational leadership at the post-secondary level. She is co-founder and President of the non-profit organization Archimedes Math Schools, which delivers after-school math classes for children. She hosts the popular math education podcast Chalk & Talk, where she discusses evidence-informed math teaching with leading education experts.

 

2025 Australian School Improvement Summit
The 2025 Australian School Improvement Summit is coming to Sydney on Wednesday 29 October — a one-day event bringing together system leaders, researchers, principals, and expert practitioners to focus on what works in schools, and how to make it happen at scale.

Hear from leading voices like Natalie Wexler (The Knowledge Gap), curriculum expert Dr Ben Jensen, and school leaders Lisa Holt (Rosebud Secondary College), Manisha Gazula (Marsden Road Public School), and Dr Greg Ashman (Ballarat Clarendon College).

If you’re a school leader or educator committed to improving outcomes for every student — and believe in doing fewer things, better — this is an event not to miss.

Special offer for listeners: 20% off full-price tickets with code LearnWithLee.
Check out the full program and register here: https://shorturl.at/Ku9v4