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The Data Chief

Podcast The Data Chief
ThoughtSpot
Meet the world’s top data and analytics leaders transforming how we do business. Hear case studies, industry insights, and personal lessons from the executives ...

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  • Data and AI Predictions for 2025 with Matt Turck, Steve Nouri, and Joe Reis
    In this season premiere of The Data Chief podcast, your host Cindi Howson sits down with three industry visionaries to explore the trends, predictions, and must-take actions for data leaders in 2025. Get ready for a deep dive into: The generative AI revolution with Matt Turck, Partner at FirstMark CapitalThe future of data science and genAI with Steve Nouri, Founder of GenAI Works and AI for DiversityData Engineering in the Age of AI with Joe Reis, author of "Fundamentals of Data Engineering" and the upcoming "Mixed Model Arts."Plus: Hear their fun predictions for everything from sports to space travel!Key Moments:The generative AI revolution: Matt Turck, Partner at FirstMark Capital shares his insights on the evolving AI landscape, the rise of unstructured data, and why now is the time for enterprises to embrace AI. (1:40) The Future of Data Science: Steve Nouri, Founder of GenAI Works (an 8-million-strong community!) and AI for Diversity, discusses the impact of GenAI on data science roles, the ethical considerations of AI, and exciting trends like embodied AI and agentic AI. (29:36) Data Engineering in the Age of AI: Joe Reis, author of "Fundamentals of Data Engineering" and the upcoming "Mixed Model Arts," provides his expert perspective on the importance of data modeling, the need for upskilling in data teams, and the potential for a universal semantic layer. (1:00:00) Key Quotes:“I would predict that there's going to be a number of big acquisitions in our general space in 2025. This whole tension between the public markets doing very well, especially in tech, but the private markets still recovering - I think lends itself well to a wave of consolidation.”  - Matt Turck“Anything that requires democratization, I'm a big fan of. And certainly, the ability to query natural language databases and all things, making that available to everyone is a very powerful idea. You guys at ThoughtSpot know this better than anyone.” - Matt Turck“We are seeing people doing less coding, more relying on their co-pilots. It's going to evolve to become more and more robust. So we will be relying more on AI to do the coding.” - Steve Nouri“Well, that's what, you know, the tagline is, AI will do everything for you. It'll even do your laundry, the jobs that we don't like. And so you're actually saying you see a future where that actually is not too far off.” - Steve Nouri“I think that there's definitely a FOMO and a bit of a prisoner's dilemma problem with adopting AI in the organization because they're getting a lot of pressure from the top down, especially to do AI. Understanding what that means to your organization should be table stakes.” - Joe Reis“Learning never stops, investment never stops. And the best investment you can make is always improving yourself, no matter what that looks like.” Joe ReisMentions:FirstMark MAD Landscape 2024The MAD Podcast with Matt TurckAI4DiversityGenAI.WorksFundamentals of Data EngineeringJoe Reis Substack Guest Bios:Matt Turck is a Partner at FirstMark, where he focuses primarily on early-stage enterprise investing in the US and Europe. Matt is particularly active in the data, machine learning and AI space. For the last 10+ years, he has been organizing Data Driven NYC, the largest data/AI community in the US, and publishing the MAD Landscape, an annual analysis of the data/AI industry. He also hosts the weekly MAD (ML, AI, Data) Podcast. He can be followed on X/Twitter at @mattturck.Steve Nouri is the CEO and Co-founder of GenAI Works, the largest AI community. He is a renowned AI leader and Australia's ICT Professional of the Year, has revolutionized AI perspectives while championing Responsible and inclusive AI, founding a global non-profit initiative.Joe Reis, a "recovering data scientist" with 20 years in the data industry, is the co-author of the best-selling O'Reilly book, "Fundamentals of Data Engineering." He’s also the instructor for the wildly popular Data Engineering Professional Certificate on Coursera, in partnership with DeepLearning.ai and AWS.Joe’s extensive experience encompasses data engineering, data architecture, machine learning, and more. He regularly keynotes major data conferences globally, advises and invests in innovative data product companies, writes at Practical Data Modeling and his personal blog, and hosts the popular data podcasts "The Monday Morning Data Chat" and "The Joe Reis Show." In his free time, Joe is dedicated to writing new books and articles, and thinking of ways to advance the data industry. Hear more from Cindi Howson here. Sponsored by ThoughtSpot.
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  • Five Best Practices to Succeed with Data and GenAI: Lessons from Leaders
    Key Moments: Focusing on Value with Bill Schmarzo 1:48Unlocking the Collective Genius with Walid Mehanna 4:07Building a Data-Literate Workforce with Valerie Logan 5:58Creating a Human-Centric AI Strategy with Sadie St. Lawrence 7:40Selecting the Right Tools with Katie Russell 11:23Implementing tools responsibly with Robert Garnett 16:00Why Clean Data Matters with Barr Moses 19:36Ensuring Responsible AI for the Long-Term with Dr. Gary Marcus 25:45 Key Quotes:“Data-driven is not important. Value-driven—that’s what’s important. We should focus on value.” — Bill Schmarzo, Head of Customer Data Innovation at Dell Technologies“Our role was rather to activate the organizational muscle… to try things out and tell us what has the highest opportunity and possibility.” — Walid Mehanna, Chief Data and AI Officer at Merck Group“It’s really a mindset and a muscle… we need to foster this kind of lasting change.” — Valerie Logan, CEO of the Datalodge“Teaching people to ask better questions is more about critical thinking than technology.” — Sadie St. Lawrence, Founder of the Human Machine Collaboration Institute“We wanted to make analytics accessible to everyone, combining real-time data and intuitive tools so every team member can gain insights and contribute to our mission to decarbonize.” — Katie Russell, Head of Data and Analytics at OVO Energy As we are looking at applications of AI within our environment, we are focused first on responsibility, making sure that we have a broad enough data set when we're building machine learning models, for instance. And so that's at the heart of anything that we do.” – Robert Garnett, Vice President for Government Analytics and Health Benefits Cost of Care at Elevance Health“Our world is moving towards a place where data is the product—and in that world, directionally accurate just doesn’t cut it anymore.” — Barr Moses, CEO and Co-Founder of Monte Carlo“The tech policy that we set right now is going to really affect the rest of our lives.” —  Dr. Gary Marcus, Scientist, Advisor to Governments and Corporations, and Author of Taming Silicon ValleyGuest Bios Bill Schmarzo Bill Schmarzo has extensive hands-on experience in the areas of big data, data science, designthinking, data monetization, and data economics. Bill is currently part of Dell Technology’s core data management leadership team, where he is responsible for spearheading customer co-creation engagement to identify and prioritize the key data management, data science, and data monetization requirements.Walid MehannaWalid Mehanna is Chief Data & AI Officer at Merck KGaA, Darmstadt, Germany, where he leads the company’s Data & AI organization, delivering value, governance, architecture, engineering, and operations across the company globally. With many years experience in startups, IT, and consulting major corporations, Walid encompasses a strong understanding of the intersection between business and technology. Katie RussellKatie Russell is the Data Director at OVO Energy, leading teams of Data Scientists, Data Engineers and Analysts who are transforming OVO’s data capability. As part of a technology led business, leveraging data using artificial intelligence keeps OVO truly innovative, delivering the best possible service for our customers. Rob GarnettRobert Garnett serves as Vice President for Government Analytics and Health Benefits Cost of Care at Elevance Health. In this role, he leads a data-driven organization supporting analytics and insights for Medicaid, Medicare, Commercial and enterprise customers in the areas of population health, cost of care, performance management, operational excellence, and quality improvement. Valerie LoganFounding The Data Lodge in 2019, Valerie is as committed to data literacy as it gets. With train-the-trainer bootcamps, and a peer community, she’s certifying the world’s first Data Literacy Program Leads. In 2023, The Data Lodge was acquired as the basis of a newly formed venture, Data Society Group (DSG), aimed at fostering data and AI literacy and cultural change at scale. Valerie is excited to also serve as the Chief Strategy Officer of DSG. Previously, Valerie was a Gartner Research VP in the CDO team where she pioneered Data Literacy research and was awarded Gartner’s Top Thought Leadership Award.Sadie St. LawrenceSadie St. Lawrence  is on a personal mission to create a more compassionate and connected world through technology. Having grown up on a farm in Iowa she witnessed first-hand how advancements in technology rapidly changed how we work and earn a living, which in turn affected the overall success of a community. Through her work, she noticed that while many organizations and individuals have good intentions when it comes to D&I in data careers, there was a lack of progress.Dr. Gary MarcusGary Marcus is a leading voice in artificial intelligence. He is a scientist, best-selling author, and serial entrepreneur (Founder of Robust.AI and Geometric.AI, acquired by Uber). He is well-known for his challenges to contemporary AI, anticipating many of the current limitations decades in advance, and for his research in human language development and cognitive neuroscience. An Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Neural Science at NYU, he is the author of six books. Hear more from Cindi Howson here. Sponsored by ThoughtSpot.
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  • How to Master the Future of Work and AI Upskilling, with Marni Baker Stein at Coursera
    Description: Marni Baker Stein, Chief Content Officer at Coursera, joins host, Cindi Howson, and dives into  the impact of Generative AI on skills, diversity in tech, and the future of upskilling.Key Moments: The impact GenAI and the surge of learning demand (05:45)Why employers must prioritize AI literacy (10.32)The gender gap in AI learning and why it matters (19:40)Leveraging data to drive personalization and learner success (24:00)Predictions for the future of AI in the labor market (29.53)Key Quotes:“Generative AI is going to require us to all be a lot more emotionally intelligent because it's going to create such disruption and change. And we're all going to have to navigate the complexities of this change. We're going to have to bring our organizations through this change. That's going to take emotional intelligence as the one thing this technology isn't, is human. Understanding and human empathy is going to remain paramount.”“In terms of data and AI skills, what is extraordinary is that the demand for these skills in the last year has grown over a thousand percent. We now have seven individuals a minute enroll in GenAI content.”“Millions of people globally are deciding that it's time to upskill and reskill in these AI, regardless of whether their employer is telling them to or not. People see it happening. They're reading about it. They're hearing about it. And they're actively going out and chasing down those skills.”Mentions:  Caste: The Origins of Our Discontent by Isabel WilkersonFrom Academia to EdTech: The Path to an Equitable Education in the Digital Age Girls Who CodeMarni Baker Stein Bio: Marni Baker Stein is Coursera’s Chief Content Officer, where she oversees the company’s content and credential strategy and partner relationships. Marni has more than 25 years of experience in producing and scaling online and hybrid education programs. Prior to joining Coursera, she was Chief Academic Officer and Provost at Western Governors University, where she led its four colleges serving more than 135,000 students with programs that improved access and affordability without compromising academic quality. Before that, Marni held several leadership positions focused on access, student success, and program design at institutions such as the University of Texas, Columbia University, and the University of Pennsylvania. She earned her PhD in Educational Leadership from the University of Pennsylvania.  Hear more from Cindi Howson here. Sponsored by ThoughtSpot.
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  • How Can Data Leaders Shift from Data-First to Business-First Mindset? With Deepak Jose, Global Data, Analytics and AI leader
    Key MomentsFrom Engineer to Data Leader (03:05)A Mindset Shift: Business Problem First, Data Second (9:31)Learning From Missteps (11:00)The Gazelle and the Lion Analogy (14:53) The Role of AI: Do Things, Do Things Better, and Do Better Things (25:58)Built to Last versus Built to Adapt (40:01) Key Quotes"Instead of a data-first mindset, you need to have a business problem-first and data-second mindset. That has helped me transform myself as a leader quite a bit.""It’s more important to define the problem right than solving the problem. How can we understand what you’re trying to solve, and how it impacts the stakeholder?"“The head of data analytics functions need to be business problem driven, empathy driven, and not technology-first minded or AI-first minded. Our objective is to solve the business problems of the organization. Data, AI, and tech are the enablers.”"In the past, we built capabilities to last. Now, the mindset has to be to build capabilities to adapt."MentionsIs Data Quality the Biggest Threat to Humanity? With Barr Moses and Olga MaydanchikResponsible AI InstituteTwo-Pizza RuleGirl Scouts STEM ClassesFrom Cancerman to Ironman: A Police Officer's Journey of Arresting IllnessHans ZimmerDeepak Jose Biography Deepak Jose is Vice President, Head of Data Sciences & Business Intelligence at Niagara Bottling. He is a member of the Forbes Tech Council, AWS Retail and CPG Executive Advisory Forum, industry standards associations, Editorial Board for CDO Magazine, and an advisor for startups and AI analytics service companies.Before Niagara, Jose was part of global brands like Coca-Cola, Mars, ABB Group, Asurion and Mu Sigma in strategic roles driving business growth. He was named to the 2023 Consumer Good Visionaries by Consumer Goods Technology and Retail Info Systems News, the 2023 40 under 40 by CDO Magazine, the 2022 and 2023 Top 100 Innovators in Data & Analytics by Corinium Global Intelligence, the 2023 100 Most Influential AI Leaders in USA by AIM Research, the 2023 Direct 60 List by The Lead, and the 2023 DataIQ 100 lists. Hear more from Cindi Howson here. Sponsored by ThoughtSpot.
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  • Can We Tame AI Before It’s Too Late? With Dr. Gary Marcus
    Key Moments: Disappointment With Today’s AI Systems (4:00) Congressional Inaction And The Need for AI Regulation (9:00)The Seduction of AI Propaganda (15:00)The Misguided Hypothesis of "Scale is All You Need" (23:00)Don’t Be Fooled by the Masters of AI Hype (27:00) The Global AI Race and the Need for International Cooperation (33:00)Key Quotes:“This matters. It matters as much as immigration policy or financial policy. The tech policy that we set right now is going to really affect the rest of our lives.”“We should want to have AI that can be like an oracle that can answer any question. There is value in trying to build such a technology. But, we don't actually have that technology. A lot of people are seduced into thinking that we do. But it may be decades away.”“Nobody can look you in the eye and say, ‘I understand how human intelligence works’. If they say that, they're lying to you. It's still an unexplored domain.” Mentions:  Taming Silicon Valley: How We Can Ensure AI Works for All Of Us Kluge: The Haphazard Construction of the Human MindThe Algebraic Mind: Integrating Connectionism and Cognitive Science (Learning, Development, and Conceptual Change)The EU AI ActAI Generates Covertly Racist Decisions About People Based On Their DialectDr. Gary Marcus Bio: Gary Marcus is a leading voice in artificial intelligence. He is a scientist, best-selling author, and serial entrepreneur (Founder of Robust.AI and Geometric.AI, acquired by Uber). He is well-known for his challenges to contemporary AI, anticipating many of the current limitations decades in advance, and for his research in human language development and cognitive neuroscience.An Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Neural Science at NYU, he is the author of six books, including, The Algebraic Mind, Kluge, The Birth of the Mind, the New York Times Bestseller Guitar Zero, and most recently Taming Silicon Valley: How We Can Ensure AI Works for All of Us.  He has often contributed to The New Yorker, Wired, and The New York Times. Hear more from Cindi Howson here. Sponsored by ThoughtSpot.
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