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The Geonomics Podcast

Dr Alex Dickinson
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  • Pierre Arsene, CEO of liquid biopsy company Mursla Bio
    Pierre Arsene, CEO of liquid biopsy company Mursla Bio
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  • Molly and Mike from Element - The Day After
    I talked with Molly He and Michael Previte, founders at Element Biosciences, the day after Illumina announced it was suing Element for patent infringement. Definitely was top of mind for them, but not of course something they could opine on directly. Nevertheless provided very interesting context for the conversation, and proof in my opinion of their disruptive impact on the life science industry. They certainly didn't seem to be the least bit intimidated 🤔A great weekend listen!Some key points:- Their goal was not just to challenge incumbents (e.g., Illumina) but to fundamentally expand what sequencing and associated instruments can do. Mike characterized Aviti as akin to Monty Python's "Trojan Rabbit": a known entry point with NGS, then expanding usage into broader biological insights.- Element's global revenue mix (over half from outside the US) and substantial industry client base insulate them from NIH budget cuts and US market shocks.- Operations: Developed a resilient supply chain (mostly US-based suppliers; multiple vendors for critical parts) to shield company from tariff and supply chain risks.- Emphasize that biology is highly context-dependent—just sequencing the genome is like reading a dictionary without understanding the story. Element focuses on enabling multi-omic analysis (DNA, RNA, spatial, etc.) from the same sample, aiming for richer, more actionable insights.- Insist that successful future models (e.g., AI/ML for drug discovery) require diverse, unique, and integrated data—not just more of the same data.- Express concern about declining NIH and public research funding, warning of long-term risks to innovation and US leadership. Affirm that cuts cause near-term paralysis (“deer in the headlights” effect for researchers) and pose incalculable long-term harm.- Suggest that new computational and AI capabilities are finally enabling the shift from sequence-obsessed biology to holistic understanding. Reiterated need for “digital twins” of cells—capturing all relevant modalities, not just DNA sequence.- Despite litigation, funding uncertainty, and market upheaval, Element leadership remains optimistic and driven by curiosity. They champion “smart science”: maximizing impact per resource, maintaining transparency and trust with users, and powering discovery through accessible, integrated tools.
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  • Abrus Founders Chris and Michael on NG Proteomics Sequencing
    DNA sequencing swept the world in two waves: first of all Sanger sequencing, developed in the '70s and the underpinning of the 2000's Human Genome Project, and then NGS which drove the cost of a human genome sequence from billions to thousand of dollars from 2006 onwards.Echoing that history, protein sequencing is now in its first innings, dominated by technologies that provide proteomic fingerprints but not the de novo sequencing that makes NGS the powerful tool it is.So it was a real privilege to sit this week with my two brilliant friends Michael Graige and Chris MacDonald and talk about the basics of proteomics, and how their stealthy company Abrus Bio is competing in the race to Next Generation Proteomics, NGP.There are so many things I like about this company!- Michael and Chris learned their craft way back at Illumina so they're all about building not bullshitting.- They use off-the-shelf NGS as their readout mechanism, making their product simply (🤣) an amino-acid-to-DNA reactor with a razor/razorblade business model- They treat DNA as bits, and so can tag both the amino acid sequences and post translational modifications with barcodes and read those post NGS in the bioinformatics.Anyway, this is a great conversation whether you're interested in learning the basics of proteomics (why it's hard, why it's 'uuuge) or the details of Abrus' approach. Take a listen!
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  • Newsbreak: Gilad Almogy and the Ultima-te NGS Giveaway!
    Geonomics Podcast Newsbreak! A 15 minute interview with Ultima Genomics CEO Gilad Almogy on why the hell he's giving away 3 Trillion free sequencing reads 🤯🤯🤯The program is called "Count on Us" (get it? 🤣) and I we talk about:- Motivation was initiated in response to the current uncertainties in NIH funding. Recognizing the stress and potential budget freezes faced by researchers, Ultima aims to support the scientific community.- Strategically the initiative serves to increase exposure to Ultima’s sequencing technology. By offering free sequencing reads, the company hopes researchers will experience the platform’s benefits, potentially leading to sustained purchasing.- While most of the sequencing will occur at Ultima’s Bay Area facility, some projects will be handled by partner service providers. We talked about the impact the NIH cuts may have on the eternal NGS dilemma of labs insourcing vs outsourcing their sequencing. We finished up with Gilad challenging other NGS vendors to give way their sequencing for free too. FREE NGS, FREE NGS, FREE NGS 😀😀😀
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  • Susan Tousi Part 2: Delfi's cancer dx technology and her career as a woman in life science
    Excited to announce a new episode of the Geonomics Podcast: part 2 of my interview with the fabulous Susan Tousi, CEO of DELFI Diagnostics.In this episode we discuss her unique career path starting out as a Penn State engineering grad then leading Eastman Kodak Company's printer business to leading Illumina's R&D and then commercial units and now CEO of Delfi. Susan deep-dives on her current role at Defi, a company focused on whole genome sequencing for cancer detection: Delfi's first test targets lung cancer, the deadliest cancer with low screening rates. Susan explains the importance of early detection in improving survival rates (Delfi has a 75% stage I sensitivity👏👏👏). She also tells us about Delfi's plans to expand the use of their technology into other cancers and monitoring applications.We round out the interview with Susan sharing her personal experience as a woman in the male-dominated life science industry, encouraging women to have confidence in their abilities and to pursue leadership roles:"I was worried about not having done a startup in a while or being a first-time CEO, but I realized I had the fundamentals to be successful. So, don't doubt yourself. If you feel you have the fundamentals, go for it.""In the early days at Illumina, there weren't many women in leadership roles. One of my colleagues texted me, "Apparently, the future of sequencing takes 30 men and one woman." I hadn't noticed it until then, but it was true."
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