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Beyond the Code

Yitzy Hammer
Beyond the Code
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  • E75: Gabe Shapiro on Cyborgs, MetaLex and Building Smarter Crypto Governance
    This week on Beyond the Code, Yitzy sits down with one of the most outspoken minds in crypto law: Gabriel Shapiro. Known for his deep legal chops, unfiltered takes, and pioneering work at the intersection of smart contracts and governance, Gabe takes us through his journey—from tech M&A prodigy to crypto lawyer and decentralization maxi.We dive into:Gabe’s early big law career and how Facebook's acquisition of WhatsApp led him down the crypto rabbit hole;The real reason “decentralization” became crypto's favorite legal strategy;Why current DAO structures are flawed—and how MetaLex and the Borg concept aim to fix them;A deep look at on-chain legal engineering: how entities, trusts, and smart contracts can blend into a new governance paradigm;The emergence of $GOR, a meme coin inspired by Gabe himself;The state of crypto regulation in the U.S., Trump’s pivot on Bitcoin, and why Gabe’s bullish on the new market structure bill;Big law’s limitations in crypto and the rise of agile, crypto-native legal shops;Anonymity in crypto—how to build trust without a legal name;And yes—we talk politics, Israel, identity, and whiskey.
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  • E74: Aaron Payas: A Gentleman, a Crypto Lawyer and an [ex-] Footballer.
    In this episode of Beyond the Code, Yitzy sits down with Aaron Payas — partner at Hassans International Law Firm in Gibraltar, CFA charterholder, and former international footballer. From the early days of Gibraltar’s DLT licensing regime to holding a Bored Ape and co-leading one of the first fully SEC-approved token offerings, Aaron brings a unique blend of legal precision, mathematical logic, and personal passion to everything he touches.Together, Yitzy and Aaron explore:Aaron’s path from math grad to fund lawyer to crypto specialist;The rise (and recalibration) of Gibraltar as a blockchain jurisdiction;Behind-the-scenes of INX — the first SEC-registered security token offering;Why Aaron went deep into NFTs and still proudly displays his Bored Ape;The maturing of the tokenization ecosystem — and why it hasn’t scaled yet;Honest takes on MiCA, regulatory arbitrage, and how startups should choose jurisdictions;How football, legal practice, and crypto law can all be driven by the same thing: passion.And yes — Spurs fandom makes a guest appearance too.Follow Aaron on LinkedIn and X (@AaronPayas) for more.
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  • E73: Justin Wales Just Dropped The Crypto Legal Handbook V2
    In this episode of Beyond the Code, I’m joined once again by Justin Wales, Head of Legal for the Americas at Crypto.com and author of the Crypto Legal Handbook — now in its newly released second edition.Justin and I dive into:The real-world impact of the SEC's changing posture on crypto enforcement;Why version 2 of the Crypto Legal Handbook is more than just a light update — and how it was rewritten to reflect today’s evolving landscape;Crypto.com’s legal journey through Wells notices, proactive litigation, and ultimately a no-action letter;How the shift in administration is restoring confidence and innovation to the U.S. crypto ecosystem;The tension between traditional finance and crypto-native companies;Big Law, legal rankings, and why the current system of legal prestige is broken;And a candid take on what excites Justin about the future — including AI x crypto, real product innovation, and global regulatory convergence.We also plug some amazing legal tools like Justin’s AI-powered GPT search tool for the Crypto Legal Handbook and Crystal, the AI platform purpose-built for crypto lawyers.Whether you’re in-house, in practice, or just trying to understand the regulatory momentum in crypto today, this episode is essential listening.🎧 Listen now.📚 Grab the Crypto Legal Handbook v2 on Amazon.📰 Subscribe to Justin’s newsletter at https://thecryptolegalhandbook.com/.💬 Follow Justin on LinkedIn for his no-BS takes on crypto law and legal culture.
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  • E72: Joni Pirovich Built Her Own AI for Crypto Lawyers (and It's Better Than ChatGPT)
    In this episode of Beyond the Code, I sit down with the brilliant and trailblazing Joni Pirovich — a lawyer, entrepreneur, and the mind behind Crystal, an AI-powered legal tool tailored for the crypto industry.We trace Joni’s remarkable journey: from growing up on a mango farm in Australia to becoming one of the most forward-thinking crypto lawyers in the space. She shares how her passion for tax reform led her into international law, and eventually into crypto — long before it was cool. Along the way, we talk about:🔹 The origin story of bdas'l (pronounced "bedazzle"), her crypto-focused law firm;🔹 What it was like advocating for blockchain-based tax reform at the OECD; 🔹 The evolution of crypto legal services and why “full stack” lawyering is essential; 🔹 The creation of Crystal — an AI tool trained on global crypto regulation and designed to support lawyers and compliance professionals;🔹 What makes Crystal different from ChatGPT (hint: it's smarter at crypto); 🔹 Building for privacy, scalability, and the future of agentic compliance; 🔹 Visions of a future with Crystal Companion, an always-on co-pilot for DeFi and legal workflows;Plus, we dive into the challenges of building in AI, the overlap with legal ethics, and what makes crypto still worth believing in.Whether you're a lawyer, builder, or investor in the crypto space — this one’s packed with insight.🎧 Explore Crystal: 💡 https://www.cryptococounsel.com USE THIS CODE FOR A 10% DISCOUNT: f3nxueod0ermu43zfs8s9wwd👤 Follow Joni on LinkedIn: Joni Pirovich⁠
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  • E71: Charlie Shrem on Building Bitcoin from the Basement Up
    In this unforgettable episode of Beyond the Code, Yitzy Hammer sits down with Bitcoin OG and serial entrepreneur Charlie Shrem for a raw, unfiltered journey through the birth of Bitcoin, the collapse of early crypto infrastructure, and the deeply personal trials that shaped one of the industry's most iconic—and controversial—figures.Charlie opens up about how a small Israeli charity called Tikvot led him to Bitcoin, the early anarchic energy of the online forums where Satoshi once roamed, and how he helped pioneer one of the world’s first Bitcoin exchanges, BitInstant, with nothing but bar mitzvah money and a handshake agreement.They talk Mt. Gox, the founding of the Bitcoin Foundation, and how a single Skype message from Roger Ver changed the course of Charlie’s life. But this episode doesn’t shy away from the dark turns: Charlie reflects on the moment federal agents arrested him at JFK, his experience in solitary confinement, the fallout with his family and community, and the harrowing prison conditions that tested his spirit.We also explore the redemption arc: house arrest in Pennsylvania, quiet reintegration into the crypto world, life on a boat, podcasting, venture investing—and a spiritual journey that defies binaries.Topics Covered:How PayPal freezing donations led to discovering Bitcoin;The mechanics of BitInstant and why it succeeded;Mt. Gox, Silk Road, and the cracks in early crypto;Charlie’s arrest, conviction, and incarceration experience;Leaving Orthodoxy, family estrangement, and Jewish identity;Starting over, rebuilding wealth, and finding purpose;This is more than a conversation about Bitcoin—it's a story about resilience, belief, exile, and finding your people on the internet.🔗 Connect with Charlie: Website: charlieshrem.com Podcast: Untold Stories Twitter/X: @CharlieShrem
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Welcome to Beyond the Code, the podcast where we dive into the legal, regulatory, and ethical issues surrounding emerging technologies. Each week, we bring you in-depth conversations with industry experts, discussing the latest advancements in technology and their implications on society and the legal system. From artificial intelligence to blockchain, we'll be exploring all the hot topics in the field. Your host, Yitzy Hammer, a lawyer and tech enthusiast, is joined by a diverse group of experts, providing valuable insight into the complex and ever-evolving world of technology.
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