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  • BTC vs Gold: The Capital Base Layer Bull Thesis, Disrupting Credit Markets w/ Khing Oei | BFC Ep. 18
    In this episode of the Bitcoin for Corporations Show, host Pierre Rochard is joined by Khing Oei, Founder and CEO of Treasury, to unpack one of the most important macro theses in modern finance: how Bitcoin is evolving beyond "digital gold" to become the capital base layer of the global economy — and why that shift could disrupt credit markets at their core.Oei shares his expertise in credit markets and distressed asset investing, breaking down why Bitcoin treasury companies exist while gold treasury companies never emerged, and how equity issuance, regulatory arbitrage, and balance sheet engineering are accelerating institutional Bitcoin adoption. The conversation explores how securitized Bitcoin products and corporate treasury structures could unlock a massive wave of demand — creating a reflexive feedback loop that transforms balance sheets, yield curves, and global capital flows.You’ll also learn how Europe’s regulatory landscape and tax treatment are shaping the next phase of Bitcoin-backed credit, why companies like MicroStrategy pioneered this model, and how future corporate issuers could become engines of structural demand far larger than ETFs or retail investors.Chapters:00:00 – Intro: Bitcoin vs. Gold – The Treasury Debate00:55 – Treasury: Going Public in Amsterdam01:23 – From Goldman Sachs to Bitcoin: Khing Oei03:04 – Why Bitcoin Treasury Companies Exist — And Gold Never Will07:45 – Scaling the Bitcoin Treasury Model: Balance Sheet Engineering Explained14:12 – Preferred Shares, Perpetuals, and the Rise of Bitcoin-Backed Credit21:38 – Equity vs. Debt: Strategic Capital Structure on a Bitcoin Standard28:04 – Investor Appetite and Yield Dynamics in Bitcoin-Backed Instruments34:52 – Building a Bitcoin Ecosystem: Media, Events, and Network Effects41:10 – Corporate Treasuries: Driving Reflexive Demand48:03 – The Path to Institutional Maturity: From Treasury Strategy to Financial Products54:45 – Macro Shifts: European Pension Funds and Fixed Income Culture1:02:00 – Regulatory Arbitrage in Europe?1:04:03 – Europe’s Fiscal Health and Bond Yields: Macro Forces Fueling the Bitcoin Era🔶 Connect with Khing Oei on X: https://x.com/khingoei🔶 Learn more about Treasury: https://x.com/Treasury_BTC🔶 Follow Bitcoin For Corporations X: https://x.com/BitcoinForCorps🔶 Learn more about Bitcoin For Corporations — the executive network for corporate bitcoin adoption: https://b.tc/corporations⭐ Join us November 13-14 at Bitcoin Amsterdam 2025 presented by Treasury to connect with Bitcoiners and the leaders shaping the next phase of Bitcoin adoption! Tickets on sale now: https://www.bitcoin.amsterdam/#Bitcoin #BitcoinForCorporations #BTC #Gold #DigitalGold #BitcoinTreasury #MicroStrategy #CorporateTreasury #InstitutionalBitcoin #CapitalMarkets #MonetaryPolicy #CryptoInvesting #BitcoinETF #MacroFinance #Satoshi #BitcoinStrategyDISCLAIMER: The views and opinions expressed in this show are those of the participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of BTC Inc., Bitcoin Magazine, Bitcoin for Corporations, or any affiliated entities. This content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or accounting advice. Nothing contained in this show constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or financial instruments. Viewers should consult their own advisors before making financial or business decisions.
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  • Real Estate Mogul Grant Cardone: Bitcoin is the "Money Multiplier" | Bitcoin Backstage
    In this exclusive Bitcoin Conference interview, legendary entrepreneur and real estate mogul Grant Cardone shares his bold new investment thesis: merging institutional real estate with Bitcoin.Cardone breaks down his powerful formula for wealth — get it, keep it, multiply it — and explains why he’s using cash-flowing property to dollar-cost average into Bitcoin without needing to "buy" it outright. He also discusses how renters are effectively buying Bitcoin for his investors, why most people misunderstand wealth creation, and how his model will onboard millions of people into Bitcoin without them ever realizing it.From critiques of the middle-class mindset to his hottest takes on Bitcoin adoption and Michael Saylor’s approach, this is one of Cardone’s most candid conversations ever.⭐ SIGN UP WITH DUELBITS TODAY FOR A CHANCE TO WIN UP TO 2 BTC: https://bm.b.tc/YT-Duelbits (ad)Connect with Grant Cardone on X: https://x.com/GrantCardoneConnect with Isabella Santos on X: https://x.com/isabellasg3Chapters:00:00 – Intro: The Formula for Money & Attention02:31 – Renters Buying Bitcoin: Dollar-Cost Averaging Strategy04:25 – The Wealth Creation Myth vs. Reality06:19 – Printing Money & Why the Rich Still Get Richer08:04 – How to Get, Keep, and Multiply Money10:34 – Advice for the Middle Class11:22 – Real Estate vs. Bitcoin: Cash Flow vs. Store of Value13:53 – Cardone’s Bitcoin Sales Pitch16:25 – Cardone’s Hottest Take: Onboarding People Who Don’t Care About Bitcoin17:36 – Michael Saylor’s Criticism and Cardone’s Response#GrantCardone #Bitcoin #RealEstate #BitcoinConference #RealEstateInvesting #BitcoinStrategy #WealthBuilding #FinancialFreedom #CashFlow #MicroStrategy #BitcoinAdoption #BitcoinNews #PassiveIncome #MoneyMindset #CryptoInvesting
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  • The Reflexive Demand Shock Is Not Priced In w/ Alexandre Laizet | Bitcoin for Corporations Ep. 17
    In this episode of the Bitcoin for Corporations Show, host Pierre Rochard sits down with Alexandre Laizet, Board Director of Bitcoin Strategy at Capital B, to unpack one of the most important – and most misunderstood – forces shaping Bitcoin’s future: reflexive demand.Laizet explains why a self-reinforcing feedback loop is emerging in the Bitcoin market, where corporate demand drives price, rising price drives further adoption, credit worthiness and financial development, and the cycle accelerates. With just a handful of Bitcoin treasury companies already absorbing more BTC than miners produce, he argues that the next phase of Bitcoin’s bull market will be defined not by retail speculation, but by structural corporate demand.Chapters:00:00 – Intro: Demand Dynamics & Treasury Outperformance01:44 – Alexandre’s Bitcoin Journey05:20 – Corporate Adoption vs Individual Sovereignty10:33 – ECB Skepticism & European Rollout14:46 – Positioning Capital B & Bitcoin-Denominated Convertibles19:18 – Why There is Hope for Europe25:21 – Managing Risk, Leverage, and Cash Buffers34:12 – Media Strategy & Educating Shareholders39:34 – Long-Term Execution vs Short-Term Noise46:21 – Defining a "Bitcoin Treasury Company"51:22 – Credit Markets Built on Bitcoin59:00 – Catalysts: Treasury Demand Crushing Miner Supply01:07:01 – Closing ThoughtsConnect with Alexandre Laizet on X: https://x.com/AlexandreLaizetLearn more about Capital B: https://cptlb.com/Follow Bitcoin For Corporations on X: https://x.com/BitcoinForCorpsLearn more about Bitcoin For Corporations – the executive network for corporate Bitcoin adoption: https://b.tc/corporations#BitcoinForCorporations #AlexandreLaizet #BitcoinReflexivity #BitcoinDemandShock #BitcoinTreasury #CorporateBitcoin #BitcoinAdoption #BitcoinInstitutions #BitcoinStrategy #HyperbitcoinizationDISCLAIMER: The views and opinions expressed in this show are those of the participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of BTC Inc., Bitcoin Magazine, Bitcoin for Corporations, or any affiliated entities. This content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or accounting advice. Nothing contained in this show constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or financial instruments. Viewers should consult their own advisors before making financial or business decisions.
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  • Steven Lubka: Let the Super Cycle Begin | Bitcoin for Corporations Ep. 17
    In Episode 17 of the Bitcoin for Corporations Show, Steven Lubka, VP of Investor Relations at Nakamoto, joins host Pierre Rochard to discuss Bitcoin treasury strategy and the growing BTC bull market.Steven explains why he believes this time is truly different — and that the current market cycle is a departure from historical norms. Could gold, fiscal dominance, and Bitcoin treasury companies set the stage for the long-awaited Bitcoin supercycle?Connect with Steven Lubka on X: https://x.com/dzambhalahodlConnect with Pierre Rochard on X: https://x.com/BitcoinPierreLearn more about Bitcoin for Corporations: https://b.tc/corporationsFollow Bitcoin for Corporations on X: https://x.com/BitcoinForCorpsLearn more about Nakamoto: https://nakamoto.com/Chapters:00:00 – Intro: It’s Different This Time01:18 – Steven's Bitcoin Journey03:25 – Nakamoto’s Strategy and Playbook07:43 – Global Market Opportunities11:35 – Intelligent Leverage Explained18:30 – Dividends, Dilution, and Shareholder Value22:00 – The Evolution of Treasury Companies25:59 – Mining vs. Treasury Companies30:32 – What Comes After Treasury Companies?33:19 – The Capitalization Rush38:44 – Are We in a Super Cycle?46:02 – Altcoin Treasuries in Perspective56:05 – Pushback from Wall Street and Washington62:11 – Bitcoin Philosophy Meets Corporate Reality#Bitcoin #BitcoinForCorporations #Supercycle #BitcoinTreasury #StevenLubka #Gold #BullMarket #BTC #CorporateBitcoin #BitcoinAdoption #MacroFinance #BitcoinStrategy #BitcoinCycle #BitcoinMarkets #InstitutionalBitcoinDISCLAIMER: The views and opinions expressed in this show are those of the participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of BTC Inc., Bitcoin Magazine, Bitcoin for Corporations, or any affiliated entities. This content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or accounting advice. Nothing contained in this show constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or financial instruments. Viewers should consult their own advisors before making financial or business decisions.
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  • Michael Saylor: The Bitcoin Treasury Endgame
    An interview with Michael Saylor like never before. On the future of global credit markets with bitcoin at their core.Michael lays out a vision of how bitcoin will disrupt capital, redefine corporate balance sheets, and become the foundation of 21st-century economics. From the rise of bitcoin treasury companies to the creation of bitcoin-backed credit instruments, this discussion maps the future of money, banking, and economic sovereignty.In conversation with Bitcoin for Corporations Managing Director George Mekhail♟️Subscribe to Bitcoin Magazine Print for exclusive content and images in "The Finance Issue": https://store.bitcoinmagazine.com/collections/magazines/products/bitcoin-magazine-annual-subscription🟧 Learn more about Bitcoin for Corporations, the executive network for Bitcoin strategy: https://bitcoinforcorporations.com/⭐ Read more in Bitcoin Magazine: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/business/why-michael-saylor-is-building-toward-a-trillion-dollar-bitcoin-balance-sheet#MichaelSaylor #BitcoinTreasury #Endgame #BtcoinMagazine #BitcoinForCorporations #Strategy #MSTR #Bitcoin
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