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On this episode of CoinDesk's Public Keys at the New York Stock Exchange, Jennifer Sanasie is joined by Two Prime Founder and CEO Alex Blume to discuss Bitcoin's range-bound price action, Strategy's accelerating Bitcoin sell-off, and why he's skeptical of the stablecoin consortium behind OpenUSD that knocked Circle lower.

In a taped interview from the NYSE floor, Securitize CEO Carlos Domingo breaks down the company's NYSE debut under the ticker SECZ via a SPAC deal, its more than $400 million raise, and its move to tokenize its own common stock on the Solana and Avalanche blockchains.

Plus, Lumida CEO Ram Ahluwalia makes sense of the macro picture — from MicroStrategy's shift from Bitcoin's marginal buyer to marginal seller and the bull case for Hyperliquid, to why he sees non-farm payrolls as "noise" under new Fed Chair Kevin Warsh.

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Timecodes:

00:00 Welcome to Public Keys

00:22 Two Prime Founder and CEO Alex Blume on Bitcoin's Range

01:26 Strategy Sells 3,588 Bitcoin to Fund Dividends

03:53 How Bitcoin Breaks From the Strategy Narrative

05:46 Circle Drops 15% on OpenUSD Consortium News

09:13 Securitize (SECZ) Goes Public on the NYSE via SPAC

10:56 Why Securitize Chose a SPAC Over an IPO

12:10 Securitize Tokenizes Its Own Stock on Solana and Avalanche

13:33 Bitcoin, Ether and Hyperliquid ETF Flows

14:37 Lumida CEO Ram Ahluwalia on MicroStrategy's Shift to Selling

16:53 The Bull Case for Hyperliquid

17:37 Non-Consensus Picks: Quality Stocks and ICE

19:09 Why Non-Farm Payrolls Are 'Noise'

20:37 Fed Chair Kevin Warsh Won't Hike or Cut

21:44 Can AI Beat the Market?

23:41 Fear & Greed Index at 24

The CLARITY Act missed the July 4th target deadline.

The CLARITY Act is now facing a hard deadline of August 7, the last day the Senate can act before the summer recess. With Trump disclosing $1.4 billion in crypto income last year, Democrats are digging in on an ethics provision. Is the clock running out on the bill? CoinDesk's Sam Ewen hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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This episode was hosted by Sam Ewen. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

CoinDesk's The Policy Protocol hosts Rebecca Rettig and Renato Mariotti open with two hot topics: the SEC's request for public comment on "novel" ETFs and the launch of Open USD, a new stablecoin protocol backed by Coinbase, major banks, Visa, and Mastercard. Christian Catalini, Founder of the MIT Cryptoeconomics Lab and co-creator of Facebook’s Diem/Libram project, joins to argue that the alliance's real test will be in governance. Plus, Rebecca and Renato close by naming their Person of the Week ahead of an important July 4th target.

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Timecodes:

00:00 - Welcome to The Policy Protocol

01:57 - SEC Opens Public Comment on "Novel" ETFs

04:39 - Open Standard and the Antitrust Question

07:27 - Christian Catalini on Libra’s Lessons, Neutrality, and Governance

16:14 - Person of the Week

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JPMorgan on Strategy's policy of allowing bitcoin sales.

JPMorgan says Strategy's new policy of allowing bitcoin sales to fund preferred dividend payments has introduced "two-way risk" to crypto markets. The bank wants 24-36 months of cash coverage — right now Strategy only has 17. With the company holding 4% of all bitcoin and driving roughly 70% of net digital asset inflows this year, any shift toward selling would matter. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

Will Bitcoin dip below $50K?

On today's Markets Outlook, 10x Research Founder and CEO Markus Thielen tells CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie why he sees Bitcoin dropping even more before recovery, with $7B in ETF outflows since mid-May and MicroStrategy stepping back as the last real buyer. Plus, why he stays bearish on Ethereum, why he's calling Hyperliquid overvalued, and why nothing turns around until the Fed goes dovish.

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Timecodes:

00:00 Bitcoin Could Dip to $46K Before Year-End Rally

01:20 Bitcoin Falls Below $60K: What's Driving the Selloff?

02:37 $4.5B in ETF Outflows, Saylor's Bitcoin Sale, and Missing Catalysts

03:14 Why the Genius Act and CLARITY Weren't Real Catalysts

05:00 When Does the Fed Turn Dovish? The Macro Case for a Rally

05:19 Kevin Warsh Nomination Was the Turning Point for Bitcoin

07:27 Why Bitcoin Could Break Below $50K to $46–47K

09:41 The 2022 Parallel: Grayscale's SEC Win as the Sentiment Shift

11:06 Brand New Rails: Securitize Lists on NYSE

12:40 Where Does Bitcoin End the Year?

13:51 Why Markus Is Still Bearish on Ethereum

15:20 Stablecoin Activity Isn't Accruing to ETH Holders

16:40 The Bull Case for ETH Has Broken Down

17:28 Hyperliquid Overvalued at $72?

18:33 Why HYPE Is Unlikely to Reach $100

19:46 What to Do Now: Covered Calls, Shorts, and Watching for the Low

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.