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CoinDesk's The Policy Protocol host Renato Mariotti takes a deep dive into the CFTC's inaugural Innovation Advisory Committee. Renato breaks down the viral, spicy exchange between CME Group CEO Terry Duffy and CFTC Chairman Michael Selig over event contracts and market manipulation, and introduces his own comment-letter concept "accountability arbitrage" that focuses on the enforcement gap that opens up when an AI agent authors a trading strategy. He then sits down with the committee's chair, Walt Lukken, President and CEO of the Futures Industry Association and a former acting CFTC chairman, who explains why Chairman Selig stood up the committee, how FIA is welcoming retail-first and formerly-offshore entrants while holding the line on customer protections, and why the hardest open question in the room was how to hold a machine accountable.

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Chapters:

00:00 Welcome to The Policy Protocol

01:15 The Story of the Week: The CFTC's Innovation Advisory Committee

01:50 The Viral Clip: Duffy vs. Selig on Event Contracts

02:45 A Fight Playing Out in the CME–CFTC Lawsuit

03:19 A Titanic Shift: TradFi Meets Blockchain

03:59 The Real Frontier: Agentic Finance

04:34 Accountability Arbitrage and Agentic Trading

06:33 Walt Lukken Joins the Show

07:00 Why Chairman Selig Built the Committee

08:21 FIA's Big Tent: Offshore to Onshore

09:49 Futures, Crypto and Prediction Markets Converge

11:43 Letting the Disagreements Be Aired

13:14 The AI Session: Holding a Machine Accountable

15:23 A Good First Year and the Tokenization Push

17:14 Renato's Debrief: A Working Committee

Pierre Rochard, CEO of The Bitcoin Bond Company, joins Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook to unpack the narratives driving crypto markets heading into Q4. From his 80K year-end price target to his rebuttal of Mark Cuban's "chips are the new crypto" take, Pierre breaks down why Bitcoin's scarcity story remains intact and why miners pivoting to AI could actually be a tailwind for Bitcoin price. Plus, Bullish's new Head of Tokenization joins to unpack what it means to be the first regulated exchange to trade tokenized equity.

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Timecodes:

00:00 - Pierre Rochard Joins Markets Outlook

00:56 - Watching the Fed and Treasury

02:14 - Pierre’s Bitcoin Price Target

02:24 - Responding to Mark Cuban: Chips vs. Bitcoin

06:01 - Why Cuban May Have Latched Onto the Wrong Narrative

07:25 - Will Retail Come Back to Bitcoin?

09:24 - Brand New Rails: Bullish Launches Tokenized Equity Trading

12:02 - Self-Custody vs. Exchanges Post-ColdCard

13:42 - The Best Ways to Get Bitcoin Exposure

15:32 - Bitcoin Miners Pivoting to AI

17:21 - Why Miners Leaving Is Actually Bullish for Bitcoin

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

Nvidia beats earnings estimates.

Nvidia beat earnings estimates and guided to $108 billion in revenue next quarter, lifting tech stocks and pushing bitcoin toward $80,000. The chipmaker also agreed to acquire open-source AI platform Hugging Face for $12.9 billion, extending its reach beyond chips and into the AI software stack. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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This episode was hosted by Uyen Truong. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

Dallas Fed warns tokenized deposits could strip $700B from U.S. banks' lending capacity.

Two Dallas Fed economists estimate tokenized deposits could strip about $700 billion from U.S. banks' capacity to fund long-term loans, as instant settlement makes it easier for depositors to chase yield and switch banks. The report warns that could push up the cost of credit for consumers and businesses. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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This episode was hosted by Uyen Truong. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

With Fomo posting all-time high fees in August and with roughly 100,000 daily traders, co-founder Se Yong Park joins CoinDesk Contributor Kate Irwin on Markets Outlook to unpack the Solana-to-Robinhood Chain growth story, why social finance apps like Farcaster and Zora never broke out, and how prediction markets could turn a generation of bettors into traders.

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Timecodes:

00:00 - Se Yong Park Joins Markets Outlook

01:11 - Inside FOMO's Record August in Fees

02:22 - Institutional Era, Consumer Endgame

03:43 - Solana, Robinhood Chain, and the Multi-Chain Effect

06:10 - Why Farcaster and Zora Never Broke Out

08:05 - Prediction Markets Will Turn Bettors Into Traders

09:24 - Advice for Founders: Ship Before It's Perfect

10:51 - DeFi is a Matter of When, Not If

12:39 - Regulation, Innovation Exemptions, and Building in the US

13:37 - Gen Z, New Media, and the Rise of Small Creators

15:20 - Q4 Outlook: The Next Breakout App Won't Be Crypto-Branded

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This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. RealFi is launching August 2026. Join the Testnet now at realfi.co.

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