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• Bits + Bips: How Trump’s Tariffs Are Bullish for Bitcoin Both Long- and Short-Term - Ep. 778

  Subscribe to our newsletter! https://unchainedcrypto.beehiiv.com/subscribe Trump’s new wave of tariffs has reignited the debate: Are they good for the economy or a disaster waiting to happen? Some say tariffs will crush trade, boost inflation, and slow growth—but others argue they could weaken the dollar and send bitcoin soaring. On this episode of Bits + Bips, Jeff Park of Bitwise, along with James Seyffart, Alex Kruger and Noelle Acheson, battle it out over the real impact of Trump’s tariffs, whether they could spark a new Plaza Accord 2.0, and why ETH took a harder hit than BTC in the latest selloff. Plus, is Trump’s economic strategy really about making America great again—or just about keeping his own real estate empire afloat? Jeff makes a bold claim outlining Trump’s #1 goal—one that his personal wealth depends on. Show highlights: 2:38 - Why Jeff believes that people’s reaction to tariffs was bizarre 7:09 - Why Jeff is convinced that tariffs are good for bitcoin 10:18 - Why Alex is so against tariffs 21:37 - How tariffs actually affect consumers 27:36 - What’s Trump’s number one priority is, according to Jeff 36:26 - Whether inflation will eventually come back to previous levels 41:05 - Why ETH got hit the hardest on Sunday night 49:56 - Whether the ETH/BTC ratio has bottomed 51:03 - How Hyperliquid’s HYPE held up so strongly 53:02 - The significance of Tether adding USDT to the Lightning Network Hosts: James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence Noelle Acheson, Author of the “Crypto Is Macro Now” Newsletter  Alex Kruger, Founder of Asgard Guest:  Jeff Park, Head of Alpha Strategies at Bitwise Previous appearance on Bits + Bips: The Real ‘Trump Trade’ & Why Trump's World Liberty Financial Was a Flop Links AP: Canada and Mexico agree with Trump to postpone tariffs by at least 30 days Eric Trump on X: "In my opinion, it’s a great time to add $ETH." Unchained:  USDT Integrates With Bitcoin and Lightning Network ETH Crashes After Trump Imposes Tariffs  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• Olaf Carlson-Wee and Rushi Manche on Why Move Is Safer for Crypto - Ep. 777

  Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. The success of any blockchain isn’t just about scalability, security, or decentralization—it’s about attracting developers. The easier it is to build, the more innovation happens. Or at least, that’s the thesis of Movement Labs co-founder Rushi Manche and Olaf Carlson-Wee, CEO of Polychain Capital. In this episode of Unchained, Rushi explains why Move, originally developed by Meta, is a fundamentally better programming language for crypto than the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM). He breaks down how Move’s unique approach to security and asset management improves developer experience and why the Movement Network is bringing Move to Ethereum as a layer 2 solution. Olaf shares his thoughts on how alternative programming environments like Move could challenge the dominance of the EVM, why Ethereum is at a critical moment, and how AI-powered financial agents could change how investments work. Show highlights: 2:32 What problems Move solves for crypto and how it got started 8:57 How the programming language is safer than others, specifically for crypto finance 21:00 What’s the thesis behind the Movement network 23:12 Why Movement chose to become an Ethereum L2 30:08 Where ETH is headed and what it needs to succeed 32:25 Why Rushi is so bearish on EVM layer 2s 34:59 Whether Ethereum is going through an existential crisis 37:47 Why Rushi believes that modularity will save Ethereum 39:28 How Movement differs from Aptos and Sui 41:36 The importance of developer experience in crypto’s growth 44:48 How tokens can signal the significance of content in social media 52:04 Why Olaf thinks we’ll soon see an explosive growth of financialized agents 57:19 Whether AI will replace VC investors and other jobs 1:01:38 What Rushi has to say about the Trump team buying MOVE 1:04:09 The significance of the U.S. making crypto a national priority Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsor! Mantle Guest: Rushi Manche, Co-founder of Movement Labs Olaf Carlson-Wee, CEO of Polychain Capital Previous appearances on Unchained: OG Olaf Carlson-Wee on Why His Crypto Thesis Is Stronger Than Ever Olaf Carlson-Wee: ‘If There Is a Money-Losing Exploit, the Money Is Gone’  Why The First Employee Of Coinbase Launched A Hedge Fund To the Moon and Back With Polychain’s Olaf Carlson-Wee Special Episode with CNBC’s Crypto Trader: Olaf Carlson-Wee on Why This Crypto Winter Is Different From Previous Ones All Things Cryptoeconomics, Pt. 1, With Olaf Carlson-Wee and Ryan Zurrer of Polychain Capital Links Unchained:  Trump’s Crypto Project Bought MOVE Tokens as DOGE News Leaked How Solana Beat Out Ethereum to Nab New Crypto Developers in 2024 Chris Dixon on Why We Will Finally See New App Innovation in Crypto 2025 Will Be a Year of Crypto Competition. Can Ethereum Make a Comeback? With AI Agents Now Trading Crypto, What Does Their Future Look Like? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• The Chopping Block: Ethereum’s Civil War, L2 Taxation, and Vitalik’s Milady Moment - Ep. 776

  Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. In this episode, we dive into Ethereum’s growing identity crisis as frustration mounts over the Ethereum Foundation’s leadership, vision, and sluggish innovation. Is Ethereum losing its edge while Solana, Base, and Tron take over? We also break down the Second Foundation drama, discuss Justin Sun’s wild L2 taxation proposal, and debate whether Ethereum needs a CTO-style overhaul to stay competitive. Plus, Vitalik Buterin’s unexpected embrace of the Milady NFT movement and what Gary Gensler’s exit from the SEC means for the future of crypto regulation. Show highlights 🔹 Ethereum Civil War? The Ethereum Foundation (EF) faces internal and external backlash as Vitalik defends its “WEF soy boy” ethos. Critics call for leadership changes, faster innovation, and a more aggressive growth strategy. 🔹 Second Foundation Fakeout: Rumors spread that Lido’s founder was launching a rival EF, briefly pumping ETH before being debunked. The buzz reignites calls for governance changes. 🔹 L2 Taxation Debate: Justin Sun proposes a 5B ETH tariff on rollups to fund buybacks, sparking debates on Ethereum’s fragmented ecosystem and lack of value accrual. 🔹 Vitalik Goes Milady: Ethereum’s co-founder embraces the Milady NFT subculture, changes his profile pic, and adopts the meme’s signature sign-off, fueling speculation about crypto’s shifting cultural landscape. 🔹 Ethereum’s Identity Crisis: With Solana, Base, and Tron dominating user adoption, is Ethereum too slow and academic to compete? Calls for an Ethereum “CTO” or more centralized execution grow louder. 🔹 Gensler’s Next Move: Gary Gensler exits the SEC and returns to MIT to teach AI & finance. Crypto celebrates his departure, while an AI-generated rap video mocks his legacy. Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  Disclosures Links Hayden Adam’s Tweet:  https://x.com/haydenzadams/status/1884134669265891433 Justin Sun’s EF Plan Tweet: https://x.com/justinsuntron/status/1881999625990836229  Scaling Ethereum L1 and L2s in 2025 and Beyond by Vitalik Buterin: https://vitalik.eth.limo/general/2025/01/23/l1l2future.html  Zen and the Art of Shifting Mindsets in Technology: Aya Miyaguchi interview in Wired Magazine: https://wired.jp/article/the-next-innovators-4-aya-miyaguchi-en/  Timestamps  00:00 Intro 01:47 Ethereum Foundation's Civil War 05:53 The Bronze Age Mentality 07:32 Community Criticism and Governance 10:03 Vitalik's New Persona: Embracing Milady 14:33 Future of Ethereum and L2s 37:39 L1 vs L2: Do People Really Care? 42:12 Ethereum's Strategy and Colonialism Analogy 46:10 The Role of the Ethereum Foundation 58:34 Gary Gensler's Move to MIT and His Legacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• Crypto Kidnappings and Physical Attacks Are on the Rise—Here’s How to Stay Safe - Ep. 775

  The kidnapping of Ledger co-founder David Balland in France sent shockwaves through the crypto community, raising urgent questions about security for high-profile crypto holders. How do you protect yourself when criminals are willing to go beyond digital attacks and resort to violence? In this episode of Unchained, Jameson Lopp, co-founder and Chief Security Officer of Casa, speaks about the growing trend of “wrench attacks”—physical assaults aimed at forcing crypto holders to transfer their assets. Lopp explains how these attacks are evolving, what makes someone a target, and which geographies are seeing the most attacks. Plus, he shares what behaviors put you most at risk, how criminals are getting more organized, and why relying on exchanges for security is not as safe as you think.  If you hold significant crypto wealth, this is an episode you can’t afford to miss. Show highlights: 2:02 How a Ledger co-founder was kidnapped and how the situation was resolved 6:46 Who tends to be targeted and which geographies see the most physical attacks 14:15 The riskiest behaviors that are likely to lead to wrench attacks 16:01 How attackers decide who to target  20:37 How the attacks have been accelerating lately  22:16 How the Ledger team ensured the kidnappers couldn’t access the ransom money  23:44 Jameson’s top tips on how crypto holders can stay safe 29:30 News Recap Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Mantle Polkadot Quai Network Guest  Jameson Lopp, co-founder and Chief Security Officer of Casa Links Previous coverage of Unchained on crypto security: Here’s How to Protect Your Crypto and Seed Phrases From Natural Disasters Reuters: Kidnapped co-founder of French crypto firm Ledger had his hand mutilated Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• Bits + Bips: Why Bitcoin Was Strong Amid the DeepSeek Selloff But a Drop May Be Coming - Ep. 774

  From AI shaking up Big Tech to bitcoin’s role in the macro landscape, Jim Bianco delivers insights on the DeepSeek-triggered market selloff, memecoins, and the challenges facing traditional systems. In this episode, the macro strategist shares why DeepSeek’s AI model is reshaping competition, how crypto reserves might evolve, and what happens to MicroStrategy if bitcoin’s price takes a hit. Plus, hear his take on why stablecoins are a threat to banks, and why memecoins could be more than speculation. Show highlights: What of crypto attracted Jim so much 0:49 What of crypto attracted Jim so much 6:15 Why the DeepSeek new model was so disruptive 12:47 Whether the biggest loser is OpenAI, not all the Mag 7 16:14 Whether we’ll see a major macro response from U.S. companies and government 26:06 What will happen next with the price of bitcoin 28:54 What would happen to MSTR if bitcoin goes 30% lower 34:11 How Trump was able to move so fast since the inauguration 39:30 Why the Fed should not do QE, according to Jim 49:02 How memecoins could be designed to be much more than speculative assets 53:03 Why James hopes the SEC doesn’t approve all the memecoin ETF applications 58:06 Whether banks will start onboarding crypto companies 1:05:52 Why stablecoins poise an existential threat to the current banking system 1:11:19 Whether it’s a bad idea for the U.S. to acquire other cryptos that are not bitcoin Hosts: James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida Noelle Acheson, Author of the “Crypto Is Macro Now” Newsletter  Guest: Jim Bianco, President and Macro Strategist at Bianco Research Links CNN Business: Trump announces a $500 billion AI infrastructure investment in the US Unchained: Tuttle Capital Files for 10 Leveraged Crypto ETFs CoinDesk: Nasdaq Files for In-Kind Redemptions for BlackRock Spot Bitcoin ETF Reuters: US, Colombia reach deal on deportations; tariff, sanctions put on hold Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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