LIBERTY ROAD with Nada Jones

• 147. How to Optimize Aging by Connecting Your Mind and Body: Gretchen Terry-Leonard

  Gretchen Terry-Leonard has spent over three decades asking the kinds of questions that reframe assumptions and unlock possibilities in her biotech and wellness career. Working at the intersection of health, science, and health equity, her work has been shaped by a deep commitment to making healthcare more humane and forward-looking. She created and leads I'M IN, a nationwide initiative focused on creating structural change in healthcare systems. Under her leadership, I'M IN has established Health Equity Fellowships at leading institutions across the United States, building meaningful alliances across neurology, oncology, and fertility.  Her debut book, Your Second Prime: Does Aging Suck, or Do We Suck at Aging?, delivers a bold rethinking of what it means to age in modern society. Drawing on epigenetics, behavioral science, and a personal health scare, the book challenges why we've accepted decline as inevitable. Gretchen explores the power of purpose in defying conventional timelines and embracing what she calls "inconvenient dreams"—those aspirations that don't fit society's narrow script for aging. In today’s episode, Nada talks with Gretchen about her new book, and they dive into a rich conversation about maintaining our agency, autonomy, and optimism as we age. Gretchen shares the medical scare that changed how she relates to time and the 20-year journey that birthed this must-read book. Parented by hippies and educated as a dietician, Grethchen discovered the interconnectedness of our minds and bodies and the imperative to find our purpose. She offers listeners a few of her favorite scientific hacks for achieving longevity and a new framework to approach aging.  To connect with Terry, visit Your Second Prime. Check out her book, Your Second Prime: Does Aging Suck, or Do We Suck at Aging?. Follow on Instagram: @yoursecondprime.  Please follow us at @thisislibertyroad on Instagram; we want to share and connect with you and hear your thoughts and comments. Please rate and review this podcast. It helps to know if these conversations inspire and equip you to consider your possibilities and lean into your future with intention.

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• 146. Expanding, Consolidating, and Starting Anew: Wanda Wen

  Wanda Wen, founder and creative force behind Soolip, is celebrated for her unremitting romance with the artisanal and the inherent beauty of things touched by hand. Established on Melrose Avenue in West Hollywood in 1995, and now nestled in Westlake Village, Soolip was built upon a profound love of paper - the tactile, expressive medium that continues to inspire Wen's world of refined artistry and soulful luxury.   A business graduate and former New York fashion executive, Wen blends business acumen with a discerning eye for art, style, and meaningful detail. Her work has been featured in The New York Times, Vogue, Town & Country, Better Homes & Gardens, and more, and she has appeared on The Today Show, and HGTV. Author of The Art of Gift Wrapping (Potter Craft/Random House), Wen is also known as America’s “go-to gift wrap stylephile.” A dedicated yogi and teacher, Wen infuses mindfulness into all she creates. She co-launched YogaLand Game in 2018, an experiential board game for yoga enthusiasts that unites her passions for design, creativity, and uplifting others. In today’s episode, Nada talks with Wanda about her paper company, its evolution over the decades, and how she manages to remain true to its original mission. Wanda takes us back to the beginning when her love of beauty and letter writing coalesced into a paper brand that started in her garage. She details the flagship store’s rapid growth and her decision to slow down and be intentional about the future. For more information, visit Soolip’s website. To get in touch with Wanda about her private yoga lessons, email: [email protected]. Follow on Instagram: @wandawensoolip  Please follow us at @thisislibertyroad on Instagram; we want to share and connect with you and hear your thoughts and comments. Please rate and review this podcast. It helps to know if these conversations inspire and equip you to consider your possibilities and lean into your future with intention.

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• 145. How the Messy Practice of Finding Your Art Leads to Freedom: Lisa Congdon

  Lisa Congdon is an internationally known, award-winning artist and illustrator. She is best known for her colorful, graphic style and her exploration of themes of joy, liberation, and inclusion. She makes art for clients around the globe, including The Library of Congress, Target, The U.S. Postal Service, Wired Magazine, Amazon, Google, Warby Parker, Method, Comme des Garçons, Brooks Running, Peets Coffee, REI, and MoMA, among many others. Lisa exhibits internationally, including solo shows at Saint Mary's College Museum of Art (California), Chefas Projects (Oregon), and Paradigm Gallery (Philadelphia), along with group shows at Hashimoto Contemporary in Los Angeles, Museum of Design Atlanta, and The Contemporary Jewish Museum in San Francisco.   Lisa is self-taught and didn’t achieve momentum in her career until she was nearly 40 years old. Despite her untraditional path, Lisa has achieved recognition, not just as an artist but as a leader in the industry for her work in social justice, mentoring, and teaching. In March of 2021, she was named “One of the 50 Most Inspiring People and Companies According to Industry Creatives,” published by AdWeek. When she's not making art, you can find her racing her bike around the gravel roads of the United States. In today’s episode, Nada talks with Lisa about finding success later in life as an artist, author, and shop owner. Lisa reflects on the relationship that first inspired her creativity, the time she spent in art classes, and the daily practice that honed her unique aesthetic. Lisa brings an honest and optimistic outlook for what lies in the middle third, as the two reflect on the advantages of grit and determination that accumulate throughout life, helping us embrace the messiness of new endeavors. Be sure to check out Lisa’s book, A Glorious Freedom, and her website for information on books, classes, and her shops. Follow on Instagram: @lisacongdon. Please follow us at @thisislibertyroad on Instagram; we want to share and connect with you and hear your thoughts and comments. Please rate and review this podcast. It helps to know if these conversations inspire and equip you to consider your possibilities and lean into your future with intention.

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• 144. More Than Hormones: Dina Aronson

  Dina Aronson is a writer, editor, and pro-age advocate who is passionate about shining a light on midlife women and reframing the cultural conversation around aging. A former attorney, law firm manager, and founder of a legal search consultancy, she pivoted careers at 51 after realizing how little content reflected her own evolving midlife experience. She began freelancing for startups focused on women over 40. Along the way, she founded the Patina blog, now a Substack newsletter called Patina with Dina Aronson, where she explores topics related to aging through her midlife lens. Dina is the coeditor of Midlife Private Parts: Revealing Essays that Will Change the Way You Think About Age, a soulful, unfiltered collection of stories that speak to what it really feels like to be a midlife woman in the world today.  She sits on the Governing Board of the nonprofit America Needs You and on the Influencer Council of the nonprofit Uncommon Threads. Dina lives between New York City and Miami with her husband and is the proud stepmother of two grown sons. In today’s episode, Nada talks with Dina about her new book of essays, “Midlife Private Parts.” Dina pursued this project to honor her mother’s memory and legacy. Dina shares how she and co-author Dina Alvarez collected intimate stories about midlife with the hope that readers will feel less alone as they navigate their respective journeys. From learning to be vulnerable to giving up the need for control, the two reflect on the many aspects of life that become liberated in the middle third Check out “Midlife Private Parts” for more information on Dina’s work. Follow on IG: @patina_life.  Please follow us at @thisislibertyroad on Instagram; we want to share and connect with you and hear your thoughts and comments. Please rate and review this podcast. It helps to know if these conversations inspire and equip you to consider your possibilities and lean into your future with intention.

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• 143. Just Make One: Irene Chen

  Irene Chen is the co-founder of Parker Thatch, a California-based functional luxury accessories brand. With a background in fashion product development, including roles at Donna Karan and Calvin Klein, Irene brings decades of industry experience to the brand she co-founded with her partner and husband, Matthew Grenby. Together, they have grown Parker Thatch from its origins as an e-stationery company in 2001 to a profitable, eight-figure business known for its stylish and functional handbags, like the Charlie carryall and the Mimi tote.  A key moment in the brand’s journey came in 2015 when handbag legend Kate Spade, a former customer-turned-mentor, encouraged the duo to focus on handbags and accessories—a decision that would propel the company’s growth. Irene is passionate about building a brand that resonates with women across generations, offering functional luxury with customizable options that meet the needs of self-expression and modern life. Irene and Matt reside in the Bay Area with their two children, Parker and Thatcher.  In today’s episode, Nada talks with Irene about the original Parker Thatch handbag design, and the local dry cleaner that kick-started the brand we know today. Irene’s enthusiasm is contagious and provides just the dose of energy you need to kick-start whatever’s next for you.   To find out more about Parker Thatch, check out their website. Follow on Instagram: @parkerthatch. Please follow us at @thisislibertyroad on Instagram; we want to share and connect with you and hear your thoughts and comments. Please rate and review this podcast. It helps to know if these conversations inspire and equip you to consider your possibilities and lean into your future with intention.

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