Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life

In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Julie Lokun sits down with Janelle Brown, a mother of six, farmer, life coach, and one of the best-known faces of reality TV, to talk about 25 years of plural marriage, the decision to leave, and the new chapter she is building on her own terms.

Janelle looks back at why her family went public, what it was like to live on camera for years, and how she learned to manage jealousy by understanding her own worth. She talks about raising children in the spotlight, loving her stepchildren as her own, and how the family's approach to mental health changed after the loss of her son Garrison. She also reflects on his legacy, including a room dedicated to him at a local Humane Society.

The conversation then turns to the unraveling of her marriage, the moment she knew it was truly over, and her views on empowering women through education, choice, and legal protection. Janelle shares her coaching work, her cross-country move to North Carolina to build a farm with her daughter Maddie and son-in-law Caleb, and her advice for anyone afraid to leave what feels familiar and start a second chapter.

In this episode, we discuss:

Life before the cameras and the ideal of the big, loving family

Why the family went public and what it meant to be unscripted on TV

Learning to move past jealousy and build self-worth

Raising children in the spotlight and loving stepchildren as her own

Garrison's legacy and normalizing open conversations about mental health

The unraveling of the marriage and what made the final break permanent

Why empowering women changes everything

Starting over with a coaching business, a North Carolina farm, and a peaceful new life

Advice for women who are afraid to leave and start a second chapter

ABOUT THE GUEST:
Janelle Brown is best known as one of the stars of TLC's Sister Wives, which premiered in 2010 and followed her family for more than a decade. She is a mother of six who left a decades-long plural marriage and rebuilt her life on her own terms.

Janelle holds an accounting degree and has worked in financial services and real estate. In 2019 she became a certified health coach through the Institute for Integrative Nutrition and founded the wellness and coaching business Strive with Janelle.

Her work now focuses on women in their second chapter, including empty nesters and women navigating major life transitions, helping them reclaim confidence, rediscover their passions, and design a life that feels like their own through Second Chapter Coaching. Janelle also co-founded Taeda Farms, a flower farm in North Carolina, with her daughter Maddie and son-in-law Caleb.

MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE:

(TV show) Sister Wives (TLC) - https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/1390/sister-wives

(Coaching business) Strive with Janelle - https://www.secondchaptercoaching.com/

(Netflix documentary) Trust Me: The False Prophet - https://www.netflix.com/title/81758532

CONNECT WITH JANELLE BROWN:

Website: https://www.secondchaptercoaching.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/STRIVEwithJanelle

X (Twitter): https://x.com/JanelleBrown117

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janellebrown117/

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Cold open and guest introduction
0:34 Life before the cameras and chasing the ideal family
2:05 Why the family went public
3:21 Learning to move past jealousy and build self-worth
7:03 Was the scrutiny worth it?
7:59 Raising children in the spotlight
9:06 Loving stepchildren as her own
11:15 The fear before the show premiered
11:58 Garrison's legacy and normalizing mental health conversations
15:36 The unraveling of the marriage
17:16 The on-camera fight that fans cheered
19:09 The moment she knew it was over
21:24 Why empowering women changes everything
23:17 Becoming the family bookkeeper
24:27 Life after divorce and starting her coaching business
25:34 The move to North Carolina and building a farm
27:41 Dating, peace, and what's next
28:35 Advice for women who are afraid to leave

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In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Julie Lokun and Mika sit down with Gina Cloud, who has spent more than 25 years teaching women to strip away the lies they've absorbed about their bodies, sex, aging, and worth.

Gina opens by reframing the idea that a woman's power expires at 40, explaining that her work spans every stage of a woman's life starting with her first period, and that women actually grow more powerful with age once they stop absorbing the messaging fed to them since girlhood. She and Julie trace that conditioning back through generations of mothers, media, and advertising, and touch on the added layer that racialized beauty standards place on women of color. The conversation then moves into the shame surrounding menstruation, perimenopause, and menopause, the medicalization of women's bodies, and a ritual Gina teaches for honoring menstrual blood rather than treating it as something to hide.

Gina and the hosts also dig into what she calls the masculinization of women in corporate life and modern dating, the loneliness she sees in how men and women relate to each other now, and her frustration with a version of feminism she feels has drifted into resentment rather than partnership. The conversation turns personal as Gina reflects on raising her daughter Alana, the values she tried to model rather than simply lecture about, and closes with a call for listeners to honor both their feminine and masculine sides instead of choosing one over the other.

In this episode, we discuss:

Why a woman's power has no expiration date, starting with her first period

Generational conditioning around beauty, aging, and self worth

The added layer of racialized beauty standards for women of color

Shame and stigma around menstruation, perimenopause, and menopause

The medicalization of women's bodies and a ritual for honoring menstrual blood

The masculinization of women in corporate life, dating, and modern relationships

Rethinking feminism, independence, and wanting to be protected and provided for

Raising her daughter Alana and modeling rather than lecturing about self worth

ABOUT THE GUEST:

Gina Cloud has spent more than 25 years teaching women, working across every stage of a woman's life beginning with her first menstrual period. She has appeared on the Ricki Lake Show, been interviewed on Playboy Radio, delivered a TEDx talk, and written a book called WOMAN that reframes what it means to be a woman.

Her work focuses on helping women release the shame attached to their bodies, sexuality, and aging, including the stigma surrounding menstruation, perimenopause, and menopause. She created the Sacred Facts of Life workshop to give young girls an honoring framework around their bodies before they get their first period, and she coaches women, including executives and former military service members, on reconnecting with their feminine power.

Gina also hosts her own podcast, where she has been doing deep personal work with her daughter Alana ahead of a mother daughter episode the two of them are recording together.

MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE:

(Book) WOMAN by Gina Cloud - https://ginacloud.com/book/

(Book) Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret - https://judyblume.com/middle-margaret/

CONNECT WITH GINA CLOUD:

Website: https://ginacloud.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Gina-Clouds-All-Things-Women/61560726219305/

X (Twitter): https://x.com/GinaCloud

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ginacloud/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/redefiningwoman/videos

ABOUT GET OBSESSED

Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com

Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com

Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com

The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future.

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TIMESTAMPS

00:01 - Welcome to Gina Cloud, and why a woman's power has no expiration date

02:36 - Generational conditioning around beauty, aging, and self worth

05:21 - The added layer of racialized beauty standards for women of color

05:59 - Shame and stigma around menstruation, perimenopause, and menopause

07:52 - The medicalization of women's bodies and a ritual for honoring menstrual blood

13:20 - The masculinization of women in corporate life, dating, and modern relationships

15:51 - Rethinking feminism, independence, and wanting to be protected and provided for

29:05 - Raising her daughter Alana and modeling rather than lecturing about self worth

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LSU looks to bounce back against Texas A&M in a crucial SEC matchup at Tiger Stadium. AP breaks down where the Tigers have the advantage, why slowing down Marcel Reed’s legs could decide the game, and what LSU needs to do offensively to get back on track. Plus, why protecting the football, establishing the run and finishing drives in the red zone will be critical against the Aggies.

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In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Julie Lokun and co-host Mika talk with Emily Bouchard, a family dynamics coach who has spent over two decades inside the private conversations of ultra wealthy families, about the money secrets that quietly wreck families and the trust that keeps them from unraveling.

Emily opens with one of the more explosive cases from her career, an adult child who embezzled millions from trusting parents to fund an online subscription based addiction, and uses it to unpack how communication breakdowns, not the money itself, let the situation spiral for so long. She and the hosts talk about why wealth tends to amplify whatever is already present in a family rather than create new problems on its own, the difference between being brought in proactively (sometimes with children as young as five) versus after a crisis has already hit, and how sudden wealth events compare to generational wealth when it comes to raising children with values and work ethic.

The conversation turns to death, inheritance, and estate planning, where Emily explains that a lack of relational trust, more than the money itself, is usually what causes families to fracture after a parent passes away, a theme she explores further in her upcoming book The Little Book of Trust and Money, co-authored with Charles Feltman. She also shares candid examples of financial infidelity between romantic partners, from hidden accounts that quietly fund children from a prior marriage to spouses discovering they are legally responsible for a partner's premarital debt or child support, and offers practical advice on prenups, separate versus joint accounts, and paying attention to how a partner responds to hard conversations before marriage.

In this episode, we discuss:

A recent case of an adult child embezzling millions from parents to fund an online subscription based addiction

How wealth amplifies existing family dynamics rather than creating new ones

Being brought in proactively, sometimes with children as young as five, versus after a crisis hits

Sudden wealth events versus generational wealth and the different challenges each creates for kids

Why estate planning conversations get missed and how unprepared inheritance can hit like a meteor

The real root cause behind inheritance conflict: a lack of relational trust, not the money itself

Financial infidelity in relationships, from hidden accounts to undisclosed debt and child support

What to watch for in how a partner responds to hard conversations before marriage

ABOUT THE GUEST:
Emily Bouchard is a family dynamics coach, former marital and family therapist, and fractional chief learning officer to family offices, with more than two decades of experience working directly with ultra wealthy families.

Her work focuses on family communication, trust, and inheritance, including helping blended families navigate prenups and sudden wealth events. She has given a TEDx talk on how to talk about inheritance without talking about money, addressing the fear many families have around discussing wealth openly.

Emily is the co-author, with Charles Feltman (author of The Thin Book of Trust), of the upcoming The Little Book of Trust and Money: An Essential Primer for Families, which draws on the trust building principles she has used with families for the past 20 years. She has also written The Beginner's Guide to Purposeful Prenups, a resource to help couples work through their values before marriage. The Little Book of Trust and Money is currently available for presale.

MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE:

(TEDx Talk) How to Talk About Inheritance Without Talking About Money - https://youtu.be/tgtReUS15l8

(Book) The Little Book of Trust and Money: An Essential Primer for Families by Emily Bouchard and Charles Feltman, in presale - https://trustmoneyfamilies.com/

(Book) The Thin Book of Trust by Charles Feltman - https://www.bkconnection.com/books/title/the-thin-book-of-trust-third-edition

(Book) The Beginner's Guide to Purposeful Prenups by Emily Bouchard - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1947341154

CONNECT WITH EMILY BOUCHARD:

Website: https://emilybouchard.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/emily.bouchard.391/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emily4families/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-bouchard-5a9a049

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@emilybouchard1111

Substack: https://substack.com/@emily4families

ABOUT GET OBSESSED
Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com
Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com
Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com
The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future.
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What happens when childhood trauma doesn't stay in the past—but becomes something your body continues to carry?

In this powerful episode of the Get Obsessed Podcast, host Mika Altidor sits down with Simone Gisondi, host of the Health Confidential Podcast, for an extraordinary conversation about childhood trauma, nervous system regulation, emotional healing, survival mode, self-worth, and the connection between trauma and physical health.

Simone grew up in communist Romania in an environment marked by horrific physical and emotional abuse, scarcity, fear, and oppression. After her father escaped to Canada and eventually reunited the family, Simone faced an entirely new struggle: adapting to a new country while carrying the invisible effects of what she had survived.

But survival has a cost.

Years later, at just 35 years old, Simone suffered a major stroke. Her recovery became the beginning of a deeper exploration into trauma, stress, emotional health, the nervous system, and the ways our experiences can continue to affect us long after the danger has passed.

Simone shares what she has learned about understanding and regulating the nervous system, recognizing survival responses, rebuilding self-worth, and creating healthier relationships with ourselves and others.

In this episode, you'll hear about:

• Growing up amid abuse and oppression in communist Romania
• Simone's family's journey from Romania to Canada
• How childhood trauma can affect us long into adulthood
• Understanding the body's stress and survival responses
• Nervous system regulation and emotional health
• Simone's major stroke at age 35 and the journey that followed
• The connection Simone discovered between her past experiences and her health
• Relationships, identity, boundaries, and self-worth
• Moving beyond survival and toward a more empowered life
• Turning personal pain into purpose through Health Confidential

CHAPTERS

00:00 — Introduction & Simone Gisondi
00:52 — Simone's Early Life and Childhood Trauma
03:42 — Growing Up in Communist Romania
12:58 — Immigrating to Canada
17:40 — Trauma, Stress and Physical Health
25:45 — Healing, Relationships and Self-Worth
27:56 — Final Thoughts

CONNECT WITH SIMONE GISONDI

Find Simone, Health Confidential, and her platforms here:
https://linktr.ee/simone.gisondi

If you've ever wondered why your body reacts even when your mind knows you're safe, why old experiences continue to influence present relationships, or what nervous system regulation actually means, this conversation is for you.

GET OBSESSED with understanding yourself—not judging yourself.

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