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“An Imperial History of the CIA” – with Hugh Wilford
Summary
Hugh Wilford joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss his new book. Hugh is a professor, author, and leading CIA historian.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
Imperial influences on American intelligence
Key figures in CIA history
“Wild” Bill Donovan & British influence
Groton School’s impact on CIA leaders
Reflections
Inherited history
Challenging established narratives
And much, much more …
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*Spotlight Resource*
The CIA: An Imperial History, Hugh Wilford (Basic Books, 2024)
*SpyCasts*
The British Monarchy and Secret Intelligence with Rory Cormac and Richard Aldrich (2024)
The Past 75 Years with Historian of the CIA Rhodri Jeffreys-Jones (2022)
The 75th Anniversary of the CIA with former Director Robert Gates (2022)
DEEPER DIVE
Books
A Question of Standing: The History of the CIA, R. Jeffreys-Jones (Oxford University Press, 2022)
Spymasters: CIA Directors, C. Whipple (S&S, 2020)
A Brief History of the CIA, R. Immerman (Wiley, 2014)
Primary Sources
Sherman Kent Obituary (1986)
Maj. Gen. Edward G. Lansdale to go to South Vietnam (1965)
CIA Review of the World Situation (1947)
Lester to Truman re Centralized Intelligence (1947)
National Security Act (1947)
Intelligence Remarks of Major General William J. Donovan (1946)
*Wildcard Resource*
Kim (1901) by Rudyard Kipling
As Hugh mentions in this interview, this book was the inspiration behind Kermit Roosevelt Jr.’s nickname, Kim. Harold Adrian Russell Philby, the infamous member of the Cambridge Spy Ring better known as Kim Philby, took inspiration from the same source.
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“The Battlefield Tour Guide” with Bob Shaw
Summary
Robert Shaw joins Andrew to discuss his experience working as an accredited Battlefield tour guide. Bob’s career in the British Army spanned over 25 years.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
Becoming a battlefield tour guide
IEDD and Intelligence Work in Northern Ireland
Hypothetical WWIII scenarios
Special Forces, TECHINT, & the Bin Laden Raid
Reflections
Learning from history
Interpretation and understanding
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
“One of the things about being an IEDD operator, our intent of course is investigation. And part of that is asking questions, lots of them, and getting, in a sense, answers and then following off and chasing trails or rabbit holes … It's good to be able to question everything and work out why it's there and does it fit … So it does really help with battlefield touring.” – Bob Shaw.
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*SpyCasts*
Alan Turing: Codebreaker, Visionary, Enigma with Andrew Hodges (2024)
The Real Ian Fleming with Nicholas Shakespeare (2024)
ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL: The D-Day Deception with National WWII Museum Curator Corey Graff (2023)
St. Ermin’s Hotel, London – The History of a Legendary Spy Site with Stephen Duffy (2023)
The IRA, The Troubles & Intelligence with Eleanor Williams and Thomas Leahy (2022)
DEEPER DIVE
Explore the Sites and Battlefields Discussed
Thames House
Vauxhall Cross
Bletchley Park
Monument to SOE Agents
The Old War Office Building
The Admiralty Building
Beaumanor Hall
Battle of Arnhem / Operation Market Garden
The Khyber Pass
The Falklands Conflict
Abbottabad Raid / Operation Neptune Spear
Battle of Stalingrad
*Wildcard Resource*
The Battle of Gettysburg is perhaps one of the most well-known and most visited battlefields in the United States.
Take a virtual tour of this historic American site here – Tour guidance by Bob not included.
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“Two Decades at the International Spy Museum” – with Anna Slafer
Summary
Anna Slafer (LinkedIn, Website) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the history of the International Spy Museum. Anna was one of SPY’s first employees when the museum opened in 2002.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
Building the International Spy Museum
Milton Maltz: the visionary behind SPY
The role of historians and curators
Creating exhibits on espionage
Reflections
Institutional memory and evolution
The challenges and joys of storytelling
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
“We structured the museum so people could understand: How does [spying] work? Who does it? What is my role? And we wanted to look at the good, the bad, and the ugly.” – Anna Slafer.
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*SpyCasts*
The World’s Preeminent Collection of SPY Artifacts with Laura Hicken and Lauren VonBechmann (2024)
Secrets Revealed – Curators Alexis and Andrew on SPY’s Pop-Up Exhibit (2023)
Peter Earnest Memorial: Spook, CIA Spokesman, Spy Museum Director (2022)
*Beginner Resources*
A look at the International Spy Museum in Washington D.C., FOX 5 Washington DC, YouTube (2023) [5 min. video]
About the Collection, International Spy Museum (n.d.) [Short article]
About Museums, American Alliance of Museums (n.d.) [Short Q&A]
DEEPER DIVE
Articles
Cracking the Spy Museum Code to Revitalize Stale Learning, J. A. Manning, Medium (2023)
A Reimagined Spy Museum in Washington Doesn’t Flinch From the Darker Side, S. Shane, The New York Times (2019)
From For-Profit to Nonprofit: Evolution of the International Spy Museum, E. Merritt, American Alliance of Museums (2019)
Spy Museum salutes '50 years of Bond Villains,' T. Wells, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (2012)
Role of museums in managing design education: a case study, H. Lee, International Journal of Education Through Art (2009)
Museum visitors hit the D.C. streets in spy game, B. Zongker, Seattle Times (2009)
*Wildcard Resource*
Museums have been a critical element of community building and historical memory for centuries.
One of the world’s first curators was a woman named Ennigaldi-Nanna from modern day Iraq. Dating from 530 B.C., Ennigaldi-Nanna’s museum of Mesopotamian artifacts is thought to be the world’s oldest museum.
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Leadership & The United States Pacific Command with Ret. Lieutenant General Anthony Crutchfield
Summary
Lieutenant General Anthony Crutchfield (Ret.) (LinkedIn, Wikipedia) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss his time as the Deputy Commander of United States Indo-Pacific Command. PACOM covers 52% of the globe.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
The role of intelligence in military operations
Ethical dilemmas in command decisions
Reflections on the impact of mentorship and outreach
The importance of remaining aware in today's pervasive world
Reflections
The challenges of leadership
Hard work, determination, and resilience
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
“I worked hard at everything I did. If somebody asked me to do a job, I didn’t say, ‘That’s not my job,’ I didn’t complain. There were places that I was sent that I didn’t want to go, but I went – And I didn’t complain about it…I did the best that I could and it was recognized.” – Anthony Crutchfield.
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*SpyCasts*
Leading United States Central Command with General Frank McKenzie (2024)
CIA Director, Defense Secretary, Gentleman with Leon Panetta (2024)
David Petraeus on Ukraine & Intelligence with the former CIA Director & 4* General (2023)
Intelligence, Special Operations, and Strategy with Michael Vickers (2023)
DEEPER DIVE
Books
The Melting Point: High Command and War in the 21st Century, K. F. McKenzie (Naval Institute Press, 2024)
Conflict: The Evolution of Warfare from 1945 to Ukraine, D. Petraeus & A. Roberts (Harper, 2023)
Strategy in Crisis: The Pacific War, J. T. Kuehn (Naval Institute Press, 2023)
Fire on the Water: China, America, and the Future of the Pacific, R. J. Haddick (Naval Institute Press, 2014)
Primary Sources
U.S. Defense Infrastructure in the IndoPacific: Background and Issues for Congress (2023)
Pacific Partnership Strategy (2022)
Indo-Pacific Strategy of the United States (2022)
*Wildcard Resource*
PACOM is, by far, the largest geographical combatant command. The smallest, on the other hand, is the U.S. Central Command. Listen to our interview with General Frank McKenzie, 14th commander of CENTCOM, here!
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“Applying Intelligence to Business Strategy” with Jonathan B. Smith
Summary
Jonathan B. Smith (X; LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the application of intelligence to entrepreneurship. Jonathan is an entrepreneur, author, and business strategist.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
Building high-performance teams
Case officers vs. entrepreneurs
Networking and overcoming operational challenges
Curiosity as a key trait for success
Reflections
The will to succeed
The power of listening and empathy
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
“I often switch languages …I'll speak from a medical CEO's perspective versus a financial services CEO perspective. And people, when you use their language, they tend to lean in. They're like, “Oh, you understand me.” It's fascinating – People don't want to know how much you know until they know how much you care.” – Jonathan B. Smith.
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*SpyCasts*
The Cyber Behavioral Profiler with Cameron Malin (2024)
The FBI Hostage Negotiator with Chris Voss (2024)
Spying and Start-Ups with former Assistant Director of the CIA John Mullen (2022)
From the CIA to Strategic Cyber with Hans Holmer (2022)
*Beginner Resources*
What Do Entrepreneurs Actually Do? Foundation for Economic Education, YouTube (2019) [3 min. video]
What is EOS? Entrepreneurial Operating System (n.d.) [Fact sheet]
Case Officer, Central Intelligence Agency (n.d.) [Job description]
DEEPER DIVE
Books
Sell Like A Spy: The Art of Persuasion from the World of Espionage, J. Hurewitz (Diversion Books, 2024)
Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It, C. Voss & T. Raz (Harper Business, 2016)
Optimize for Growth: How to Scale Up Your Business, Your Network and You, J. B. Smith (Chief Optimizer, 2015)
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