The Chain Podcast

Transformation is everywhere—but real results are rare.

 
In this episode of The Chain Podcast, we sit down with DeAnna Harner, Global Executive Partner of Supply Chain Operations, to explore why so many transformation initiatives fall short — and what it actually takes to make change stick.
 
Harner shares hard-earned insights from working with hundreds of organizations navigating AI adoption, digital transformation and ongoing disruption. From “Excel chaos” to disconnected data, she explains why technology alone isn’t the answer.
 
Together, we unpack:

Why AI isn’t a “Band-Aid” for broken processes

How to move beyond constant firefighting in supply chains

Where organizations are seeing real value from AI today

The critical role of culture, collaboration, and change readiness

Why starting small—and getting the basics right—is the key to success

If you’re looking to turn bold transformation ambitions into measurable outcomes, this conversation will give you the practical mindset shift you need to get started.
 

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In this episode of The Chain Podcast, ASCM is joined by geopolitical supply chain expert and advisor, Koray Köse, founder and chief analyst at Köse Advisory, discuss how supply chains are evolving from efficiency-driven networks into strategic infrastructure that shapes resilience, competitiveness and business continuity.
 
The conversation explores how geopolitical pressure, tariffs, sanctions, export controls, AI adoption, cyber risk and supply chain visibility are changing what leadership looks like in modern operations.
 
Koray Köse also explains why resilience should be treated as an operating model and investment strategy — not just a defensive response to disruption.
 

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About Koray Köse:

Koray Köse, Founder and Chief Analyst of KŌSE Advisory, a global advisory firm operating at the intersection of geopolitics, GeoTech, artificial intelligence, and global value chains. Koray advises executives, investors, policymakers, and global stakeholders on the decisions that define competitive position, resilience, and long-term growth.

With more than two decades of senior advisory and executive experience, Koray has operated as both practitioner and strategist, from analyst to Director at the Federal Reserve Bank, and from Chief Procurement Officer to Chief Industry Officer across global organizations spanning automotive, defense, pharmaceuticals, life sciences, semiconductors, and high technology.

He serves as Special Adviser to the Centre for the Geopolitics of Global Change at ODI Global and is the inaugural Senior Fellow of GLOBSEC’s GeoTech Research Center, established under the leadership of General John R. Allen. He is also a participant in NATO’s 2030 Private Sector Dialogues.

Koray teaches MBA programs at HULT International Business School and Northeastern University and serves on the Board of the Slave-Free Alliance. He is a member of the Forbes Technology Council and a published author whose work has appeared in more than 100 publications and has been featured by The New York Times, The Economist, The Wall Street Journal, Reuters, BBC, Forbes, Bloomberg, CNBC, and Channel News Asia.

His advisory work spans multinational corporations, technology firms, investors, think tanks, NGOs, and major international conferences. He has also contributed strategic intelligence assessments, geopolitical analysis, and human intelligence context to senior government, national security, and intelligence community forums across North America, Europe, and the Middle East.

In this episode of The Chain, we’re joined by Leah Shaver, President and CEO of the National Transportation Institute (NTI) and one of the most trusted voices in trucking workforce and compensation data.

 
Leah breaks down what supply chain leaders often misunderstand about the so‑called driver shortage — and why the real challenge is more complex than headcount alone. Drawing on decades of data and experience, she explains how outdated pay models, misaligned job promises, generational gaps, and lack of compensation transparency continue to drive churn across the industry.
 
You'll learn:

What competitive driver pay actually looks like today

Why turnover remains high even at top‑paying fleets

How private fleets differ from for‑hire carriers in both structure and outcomes

Where automation and AI can truly help — or hurt — the driver experience

What leaders must unlearn to build a resilient, future‑ready driver pipeline.

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In this episode of The Chain Podcast, we sit down with Mike Bunge, Vice President of Global Supply Chain Operations at Hamilton Beach Brands, explores how SCOR®-based maturity assessments can help supply chain leaders take control of trade, customs, and global logistics.

Bunge shares how Hamilton Beach used a SCOR assessment to move beyond reactive decision-making and identify where trade costs, risks, and inefficiencies were truly coming from. Rather than treating tariffs and trade policy as uncontrollable external forces, the assessment created a shared, data-driven view across supply chain, finance, legal, and IT — allowing the organization to prioritize improvements and align on outcomes.

The conversation highlights how SCOR enables leaders to diagnose root causes, balance lean operations with resilience, and connect trade strategy to enterprise performance metrics like cost, agility, and asset efficiency. Mike also explains why cross-functional ownership and disciplined analysis are critical for turning assessment insights into measurable business impact.

For supply chain leaders navigating constant disruption, this episode offers practical insight into how SCOR maturity assessments provide clarity, focus, and a roadmap for action—especially in complex areas like global trade and logistics.

 

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We're joined by Nashay Naeve, President of the Engineered Plastic Components Business Unit at Tsubaki Nakashima, to explore what it takes to lead manufacturing organizations in an era of constant disruption.

Nashay shares how global experience — from living and working in China to leading teams across Europe and the U.S. — has shaped her leadership philosophy.

Together, we discuss how:

Manufacturers can move from reactive decision-making to proactive, data-driven operations.

Why upskilling frontline teams is just as critical as investing in digital transformation.

How sustainability can become a true competitive differentiator.

The conversation also covers career advice for early professionals, mentorship for women in supply chain leadership, and how organizations can plan long-term while staying agile in the face of today’s volatility.

 

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