Therapy Chat

What does healing the legacies of harm passed from one generation to the next look like? That is the topic of this week's episode with my guest, and one of my teachers, Dr. Ame Cutler. Ame is a transdisciplinary trauma theorist, regenerative strategist, and spiritual practitioner who refuses to separate healing from history—or transformation from accountability.
Ame created the Regeneration Process and she's the founder of the Transgenerational Regeneration Institute, a community-based platform for dismantling inherited systems of harm and restoring Ancestral, ecological, and relational integrity. With a PhD in Humanistic and Transpersonal Psychology, Dr. Cutler’s academic and practical work interrogates the cultural and psychological impacts of colonization, white supremacy, transgenerational trauma, and systemic oppression. Her scholarship is not theoretical—it’s embodied.
Born into a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant lineage shaped by overwork, erasure, and inherited privilege, she has spent her life reclaiming what capitalism, Christianity, and settler logic tried to strip away: belonging, integrity, and Ancestral responsibility. Dr. Cutler specializes in the legacies of harm passed through both survivors and perpetrators. Her work illuminates how the very systems that create trauma—imperialism, extraction, racial capitalism—also dictate the terms of what healing is “allowed” to look like. She challenges the hyper-individualized models of Eurocentric psychotherapy and the depoliticized spiritual bypassing of the wellness industry. Instead, she offers a path grounded in somatic integrity, Ancestral listening, ecological repair, and systemic dismantling. 

Find Dr. Ame Cutler's book, The Regeneration Process: A revolutionary method for uprooting ancestral trauma, embracing uncertainty and cultivating collective liberation, on the Transgenerational Regeneration Institute website here. 
Find Dr. Ame Cutler on socials: Instagram, Instagram

More Resources:

My course on therapy skills for work with survivors of sexual violence is available on The Academy of Therapy Wisdom site. Watch a free video and access the course. Find the video and access the course here!

We are all carrying a lot, whether we are helping professionals or not. Retreats have been hugely beneficial for me, and I am now offering them - for therapists and non-therapists - in several beautiful international and US-based locations. We're currently updating the TTN website to list retreats in 2026 and 2027 in Spain, North Carolina, Mexico, Portugal, Greece, France and more. In the meantime, let me know if you are interested in learning more about what's coming up using this Google Form. Follow Therapy Chat on Instagram, Facebook and e-mail to be in the know!

Therapy Chat's 11th birthday and Trauma Therapist Network's 5th birthday are coming this August! Watch for special offers throughout the month of August! Sign up for my e-mail list to ensure you don't miss a thing!

Watch Therapy Chat episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TherapyChatPodcast

Therapists, visit the new For Therapists page on the Trauma Therapist Network website for discounts on CE trainings, savings on Synthesis Institute's Psychedelic Facilitation training, discounts on SSP training, other recommended resources and more. 

Find a trauma therapist near you via findtraumatherapy.com! We believe that trauma is real, healing is possible and help is available at Trauma Therapist Network. 

TherapyNotes® is the highest-rated EHR, practice management, and billing software for mental health professionals. Its all-in-one platform is designed to streamline all aspects of your practice, from connecting with clients via secure messages, to scheduling, to notes, to billing, and more; you can trust TherapyNotes has you covered. And one of the best parts? 24-7 customer service. It's beyond easy to get help over the phone or by email at any time of day from their knowledgeable and friendly representatives. The best time to give TherapyNotes a try is now! Sign up for your free trial by going to TherapyNotes.com, clicking "Start my free trial", and accessing your first two months free with the promo code CHAT. See why TherapyNotes is the most trusted EHR for behavioral health professionals today.

Thank you for listening to Therapy Chat! Please be sure to go to iTunes and leave a rating and review, subscribe and download episodes.

Podcast Produced by Vaudeo Productions: https://vaudeoproductions.com

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We continue our conversations about Brainspotting in this week's episode with my guest, Dr. Cherie Lindberg. Cherie is the author of Sacred Healing, a former psychotherapist of 25 years, a speaker, a Brainspotting consultant and trainer, and a coach working with high performing individuals and the practitioners who serve them. In our conversation, Cherie shares that despite being abused as a child, she didn't recognize until she was in graduate school that she was experiencing Complex PTSD.
Initially finding little help from talk therapies, Cherie notes that many of the attachment wounds affecting her were from early years and stored non-verbally. She explains that she experienced her first shifts through EMDR therapy, which reduced some of the symptoms, but she was still living her life in a way that felt inauthentic, still operating from that wounded place. We talked about the "fawn" response to threat which shows up in performative behaviors like people-pleasing and accommodating others while suppressing our own thoughts and feelings, wants and needs. Through deep Brainspotting work, Cherie found herself using the "fawning" strategy less and less and showing up more often as her authentic self. Now she teaches her coaching clients and Brainspotting students and consultees how to do the same! 

Find Dr. Cherie Lindberg's book, Sacred Healing, and more at her website 
Find Dr. Cherie Lindberg on socials: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, YouTube

My course on therapy skills for work with survivors of sexual violence is available on The Academy of Therapy Wisdom site. Watch a free video and access the course. Find the video and access the course here!

We are all carrying a lot, whether we are helping professionals or not. Retreats have been hugely beneficial for me, and I am now offering them - for therapists and non-therapists - in several beautiful international and US-based locations. We're currently updating the TTN website to list retreats in 2026 and 2027 in Spain, North Carolina, Mexico, Portugal, Greece, France and more. In the meantime, let me know if you are interested in learning more about what's coming up using this Google Form. Follow Therapy Chat on Instagram, Facebook and e-mail to be in the know!

Therapy Chat's 11th birthday and Trauma Therapist Network's 5th birthday are coming this August! Watch for special offers throughout the month of August! Sign up for my e-mail list to ensure you don't miss a thing!

Watch Therapy Chat episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TherapyChatPodcast

Therapists, visit the new For Therapists page on the Trauma Therapist Network website for discounts on CE trainings, savings on Synthesis Institute's Psychedelic Facilitation training, discounts on SSP training, other recommended resources and more. 

Find a trauma therapist near you via findtraumatherapy.com! We believe that trauma is real, healing is possible and help is available at Trauma Therapist Network. 

TherapyNotes® is the highest-rated EHR, practice management, and billing software for mental health professionals. Its all-in-one platform is designed to streamline all aspects of your practice, from connecting with clients via secure messages, to scheduling, to notes, to billing, and more; you can trust TherapyNotes has you covered. And one of the best parts? 24-7 customer service. It's beyond easy to get help over the phone or by email at any time of day from their knowledgeable and friendly representatives. The best time to give TherapyNotes a try is now! Sign up for your free trial by going to TherapyNotes.com, clicking "Start my free trial", and accessing your first two months free with the promo code CHAT. See why TherapyNotes is the most trusted EHR for behavioral health professionals today.

Thank you for listening to Therapy Chat! Please be sure to go to iTunes and leave a rating and review, subscribe and download episodes.

Podcast Produced by Vaudeo Productions: https://vaudeoproductions.com

Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

This week I am happy to share my interview with one of the pioneers of Brainspotting, Dr. Pie Frey. Together with Brainspotting consultant and Rocky Mountain Brainspotting Institute (RMBI) board member Thad Frey, we discussed how Pie got started in Brainspotting and how she's been part of bringing it to where it is now; an overview of the benefits of this method; what RMBI offers; and we got into how Brainspotting can be useful with OCD. Pie generously shared her OCD setup and talked about how it helps the neural wiring become "unstuck," potentially relieving OCD symptoms, trauma and so many other mental health challenges. Join us for a fascinating discussion about all things Brainspotting and learn how it can help with OCD symptoms!

Pie Frey, PsyD, was in the vanguard of therapists to adopt Brainspotting and is the Senior US and Canadian Trainer. She has assisted Dr. David Grand, the developer of Brainspotting, in many training workshops and Intensive Trainings. Dr. Frey is a psychotherapist in private practice in Boulder, Colorado. She has trained thousands of BSP therapists throughout the United States and Canada in Phase 1 and Phase 2 since 2009. Dr Frey offers 5-day intensive Trainings, small, intensely focused BSP groups limited to 10 therapists at a time. She also facilitates Brainspotting consultation groups and provides individual consultation for BSP therapists. Dr. Frey has developed a Brainspotting setup for relieving obsessive-compulsive symptoms currently in use all around the world.Dr. Frey founded and is the President of the Rocky Mountain Brainspotting Institute in Colorado, a nonprofit organization educating community about Brainspotting and developing a free Brainspotting scholarship program.

Thad Frye, LCSW, is a licensed clinical social worker, Brainspotting Consultant, and founder of Performance Brainspotting in Boulder, Colorado. With more than 20 years of clinical experience, Thad specializes in helping collegiate and professional athletes, musicians, and other high performers overcome performance blocks, including the yips, injury-related setbacks, creative barriers, and the unique pressures of performing at elite levels. As a Brainspotting Consultant, Thad provides collaborative, supportive consultation to clinicians pursuing Brainspotting certification, helping therapists deepen their clinical confidence, strengthen their use of the model, and discover their own authentic style as Brainspotting practitioners.

Learn about training or therapy with Dr. Pie Frey here: https://piefrey.com/
Learn more about therapy with Thad Frye via his website: https://www.thadfryecounseling.com/
Learn more about Thad's performance coaching work here: https://www.performancebrainspotting.com/
Listen to Thad's two previous Therapy Chat interviews here 

More Resources:

My course on therapy skills for work with survivors of sexual violence is available on The Academy of Therapy Wisdom site. Watch a free video and access the course. Find the video and access the course here!

We are all carrying a lot, whether we are helping professionals or not. Retreats have been hugely beneficial for me, and I am now offering them - for therapists and non-therapists - in several beautiful international and US-based locations. We're currently updating the TTN website to list retreats in 2026 and 2027 in Spain, North Carolina, Mexico, Portugal, Greece, France and more. In the meantime, let me know if you are interested in learning more about what's coming up using this Google Form. Follow Therapy Chat on Instagram, Facebook and e-mail to be in the know!

Therapy Chat's 11th birthday and Trauma Therapist Network's 5th birthday are coming this August! Watch for special offers throughout the month of August! Sign up for my e-mail list to ensure you don't miss a thing!

Watch Therapy Chat episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TherapyChatPodcast

Therapists, visit the new For Therapists page on the Trauma Therapist Network website for discounts on CE trainings, savings on Synthesis Institute's Psychedelic Facilitation training, discounts on SSP training, other recommended resources and more. 

Find a trauma therapist near you via findtraumatherapy.com! We believe that trauma is real, healing is possible and help is available at Trauma Therapist Network. 

TherapyNotes® is the highest-rated EHR, practice management, and billing software for mental health professionals. Its all-in-one platform is designed to streamline all aspects of your practice, from connecting with clients via secure messages, to scheduling, to notes, to billing, and more; you can trust TherapyNotes has you covered. And one of the best parts? 24-7 customer service. It's beyond easy to get help over the phone or by email at any time of day from their knowledgeable and friendly representatives. The best time to give TherapyNotes a try is now! Sign up for your free trial by going to TherapyNotes.com, clicking "Start my free trial", and accessing your first two months free with the promo code CHAT. See why TherapyNotes is the most trusted EHR for behavioral health professionals today.

Thank you for listening to Therapy Chat! Please be sure to go to iTunes and leave a rating and review, subscribe and download episodes.

Podcast Produced by Vaudeo Productions: https://vaudeoproductions.com

Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Welcome back! This week, we continue the series on combining delivery of multiple models and interventions to benefit the healing process. My guests today are Marcella Cox and Leah Dawang. Marcella is a therapist, author and presenter who has devoted her career to embodiment, trauma healing and eating disorder recovery. Leah is a Leah Dawang, SEP is a Relationship Restoration Guide, offering a consilient approach to clearing the way for Love to couples and individuals so that they may connect with themselves, others, Nature and Spirit. Our discussion explores how clinicians can combine somatics, sound healing and IFS help clients deepen access to healing pathways. 

Marcella Cox, LMFT is a Level 3 Certified IFS Therapist, an Approved IFS Clinical Consultant, and is a Somatic IFS Assistant Trainer for Susan McConnell, developer of Somatic IFS. She leads Somatic IFS and IFS for disordered eating workshops, trainings, retreats, and groups for professionals. She is committed to creating an inclusive, and empowering learning environment where participants can explore the transformative potential of IFS and Somatic IFS. Marcella is also founder and executive director of Kindful Body, providing online therapy and nutrition counseling for eating and body issues in California, as well as co-founder of the IFS Consultation Collective providing weekly consultation with IFS lead trainers.

Leah Dawang, SEP engages a tapestry of healing woven from the Safe and Sound Protocol, Relational Life Therapy, Somatic Experiencing, Internal Family Systems and interpersonal neurobiology. At Unyte, Leah serves in cultivating an ecosystem of partnerships, envisioning all members of the healing community linking arms in Love and transforming the world.

Resources:
Find Marcella Cox on Facebook, Instagram + LinkedIn
Find Marcella Cox's website here
Find the Unyte socials on Facebook, Instagram + LinkedIn
Learn about using SSP with clients and get discounts on training here! Download a free resource for integrating SSP into your work.
More Resources:
My course on supporting therapy skills for work with survivors of sexual violence is available on The Academy of Therapy Wisdom site. Watch a free video and access the course. Find the video and access the course here!
Therapists and helping professionals - in case you missed it, I'm now offering several retreats, including one in Tulum, Mexico. Let go of what you've been carrying and allow yourself to be held in nature. Experience mindful movement practices, sound healing, energy work and much more when you join me in November at an eco-friendly beachfront resort. Find all the details on the TTN website:  Mind, Body + Soul Healing Retreat for Therapists. We are in the process of adding info about all the upcoming retreats to the website now!  In the meantime, let me know if you are interested in learning more about what's coming up using this Google Form. 
Therapy Chat's 11th birthday and Trauma Therapist Network's 5th birthday are coming this August! Watch for special offers throughout the month of August! Sign up for my e-mail list to ensure you don't miss a thing!
Watch Therapy Chat episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TherapyChatPodcast
Therapists, visit the new For Therapists page on the Trauma Therapist Network website for discounts on CE trainings, savings on Synthesis Institute's Psychedelic Facilitation training, other recommended resources and more. 
Find a trauma therapist near you via findtraumatherapy.com! We believe that trauma is real, healing is possible and help is available at Trauma Therapist Network. 
TherapyNotes® is the highest-rated EHR, practice management, and billing software for mental health professionals. Its all-in-one platform is designed to streamline all aspects of your practice, from connecting with clients via secure messages, to scheduling, to notes, to billing, and more; you can trust TherapyNotes has you covered. And one of the best parts? 24-7 customer service. It's beyond easy to get help over the phone or by email at any time of day from their knowledgeable and friendly representatives. The best time to give TherapyNotes a try is now! Sign up for your free trial by going to TherapyNotes.com, clicking "Start my free trial", and accessing your first two months free with the promo code CHAT. See why TherapyNotes is the most trusted EHR for behavioral health professionals today.
Thank you for listening to Therapy Chat! Please be sure to go to iTunes and leave a rating and review, subscribe and download episodes.
Podcast Produced by Vaudeo Productions: https://vaudeoproductions.com

Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Trauma resolution and nervous system regulation are hot topics, but there is another piece that is often left out of the discussion. This week's Therapy Chat guest, Tracy Jarvis, is a psychotherapist with a background in neuroscience who is the co-founder and one of the core faculty of Interoception International, a training institute integrating interoception research with the clinical application of psychotherapy.  In our conversation, Tracy explores the complex world of interoception, its role in trauma recovery, and its implications for clinicians. Tracy explains interoception is and how it is distinct from somatics, and how clinicians can use nuanced approaches to help clients understand and work with internal sensations. Discover how understanding internal sensing can transform therapeutic approaches and improve emotional regulation. 

Tracy Jarvis, MSc, is a licensed psychotherapist, international trainer, and consultant with over 20 years of experience in psychology and mental health. Specializing in neuroscience and trauma, Tracy combines a rigorous academic foundation with over 25 years of yoga and movement practice, bringing a deeply embodied and neurobiological perspective to her clinical and teaching work. Before co-founding Interoception International, she was the founder and CEO of PESI UK (previously Psychotherapy Excellence), a not-for-profit organization and the largest clinical content provider in the UK and Europe. Additionally, Tracy is a former trainer with the Sensorimotor Psychotherapy Institute. Tracy has a specialist private practice in PTSD, complex trauma, and trauma-related issues/diagnoses. She teaches, advises, and consults on trauma and clinical strategy for various organisations worldwide, as well as for TV and film, emphasizing the importance of a bi-directional approach to treating psychological trauma. 
 
Resources:

Interoception International Institute website: https://interoceptioninternational.com
Tracy Jarvis's website: https://www.tracyjarvis.net
Follow Tracy Jarvis on Instagram and Facebook
Tracy Jarvis is on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracyjjarvis/
 
More Resources:

My course on supporting therapy skills for work with survivors of sexual violence is available on The Academy of Therapy Wisdom site. Watch a free video and access the course. Find the video and access the course here!

Therapists and helping professionals - in case you missed it, I'm now offering several retreats, including one in Tulum, Mexico. Let go of what you've been carrying and allow yourself to be held in nature. Experience mindful movement practices, sound healing, energy work and much more when you join me in November at an eco-friendly beachfront resort. Find all the details on the TTN website:  Mind, Body + Soul Healing Retreat for Therapists. We are in the process of adding info about all the upcoming retreats to the website now!  In the meantime, let me know if you are interested in learning more about what's coming up using this Google Form. 

Therapy Chat's 11th birthday and Trauma Therapist Network's 5th birthday are coming this August! Watch for special offers throughout the month of August! Sign up for my e-mail list to ensure you don't miss a thing!

Watch Therapy Chat episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TherapyChatPodcast

Therapists, visit the new For Therapists page on the Trauma Therapist Network website for discounts on CE trainings, savings on Synthesis Institute's Psychedelic Facilitation training, other recommended resources and more. 

Find a trauma therapist near you via findtraumatherapy.com! We believe that trauma is real, healing is possible and help is available at Trauma Therapist Network. 

TherapyNotes® is the highest-rated EHR, practice management, and billing software for mental health professionals. Its all-in-one platform is designed to streamline all aspects of your practice, from connecting with clients via secure messages, to scheduling, to notes, to billing, and more; you can trust TherapyNotes has you covered. And one of the best parts? 24-7 customer service. It's beyond easy to get help over the phone or by email at any time of day from their knowledgeable and friendly representatives. The best time to give TherapyNotes a try is now! Sign up for your free trial by going to TherapyNotes.com, clicking "Start my free trial", and accessing your first two months free with the promo code CHAT. See why TherapyNotes is the most trusted EHR for behavioral health professionals today.

Thank you for listening to Therapy Chat! Please be sure to go to iTunes and leave a rating and review, subscribe and download episodes.

Podcast Produced by Vaudeo Productions: https://vaudeoproductions.com

Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands