*triggers: This episode includes discussion of depression and mental health crises.
In 1997 Natalie Imbruglia released her first single, Torn, which sold more than 4 million physical copies worldwide. In her homeland of Australia, it became the most played song on the radio, being played an average of 75 times a day over the two decades following its release.
She landed a part in Neighbours in 1985, when she was just 16 years old, and stayed on the hugely popular soap for two years before moving to London. Her first album, Left Of Middle, went multi-platinum. Five further albums followed but it wasn’t always easy: in 2009 she took a six-year break from music to concentrate on acting, appearing on stage and in film and also as a judge on the Australian X Factor. Since then, she has released further music, become a mother to a son and won The Masked Singer.
Now she returns with her seventh studio album, Algorithm.
We talk about how writing this album coincided with the perimenopause, reflect on her time in Neighbours, her experience of dating apps, going through solo IVF to have her son, the sexism she faced in the music industry, plus the wisdom she has found in her 50s.
✨ IN THIS EPISODE:
03:08 Making Natalie’s new album Algorithm
04:55 Neurodivergence and Menopause
08:59 Death Scrolling
10:47 Dropped by Label
16:07 Neighbors and Rejection
25:35 Dating in Your 30s
27:15 Rejection Builds Clarity
27:37 Choosing Love Over Biology
30:47 IVF Reality Check
34:13 Single Mother Headlines
35:48 Manifesting With Lists
38:11 Living After Torn
43:53 Sexism and Aging Power
💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
It doesn't matter who it is, never give your power over to another human being. Never think somebody knows you better than you know yourself.
I'm quite good at being the underdog. I find it much scarier to be at the top, waiting to fall off a pedestal.
Sometimes the universe is working for you, it just doesn't feel that way at the time.
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
Natalie’s latest album, ‘Algorithm’ is to be released on 4th September. Pre-order here: republicofmusic.lnk.to/algorithm
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