Investors & Operators

• Ep. 136: Justin Smith, Managing Director at Agellus Capital

  Topics:Founder Misconceptions About PEFriction Points in Integration Signs a Business Is M&A-Ready...and so much more.Top TakeawaysRoll-ups require a clear playbook or you’ll struggle to scale. Justin shares that Agellus Capital targets fragmented, non-discretionary markets and looks for add-ons with high recurring revenue and complementary services. Without clear acquisition criteria, you risk stitching together unrelated businesses with no strategic fit. That leads to operational headaches, zero synergies, and a portfolio that’s tough to grow or sell.Integration fails when PE firms underestimate founder attachment. Every founder thinks their playbook is the gold standard, which makes cultural and operational alignment tough. Justin warns that without early investment in rebranding, leadership clarity, and shared values, resentment builds fast and integration risks becoming a post-close drag on value.Want to sell in 12–24 months? Focus on building a business that runs without you. Justin explains that to attract private equity buyers, founders need to nail three critical areas before pursuing M&A: scalable systems, consistent and defensible EBITDA, and a strong leadership team that doesn’t rely on the founder. Without these, you’re not selling a business—you’re selling your job.About Justin SmithJustin Smith is Managing Director and Head of Business Development at Agellus Capital. With 13+ years of experience in private equity, M&A advisory, and investment management, he leads the firm’s deal sourcing and relationship-building efforts. In 2025, he was named a “Private Equity BD Professional to Watch” by ACG.About Agellus CapitalAgellus Capital is a lower-middle-market private equity firm focused on essential, non-discretionary services in fragmented industries. The firm targets businesses with $2M–$20M of EBITDA and employs a disciplined buy-and-build strategy. Backed by a $400M debut fund, Agellus is actively scaling platforms across the U.S. through strategic acquisitions.

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• Ep. 135: John Koeppel, Partner & Private Equity/Independent Sponsor Leader at Lippes Mathias

  Topics:Pre-LOI: How Independent Sponsors Win DealsLOI Execution: Structure, Risks, MistakesGood vs. Bad Post-LOI DiligenceWhat Attracts and Repels Capital...and so much more.Top TakeawaysRollover is your edge against strategics. Strategic buyers often can’t offer it. Independent sponsors can—that’s your edge. Typical range is 10–40%, and when structured well, the second bite can be worth more than the first. It aligns incentives, keeps sellers engaged, and shows you’re building with them instead of just buying them out.An LOI isn’t a victory if it’s not fundable. Signing an LOI with mispriced risk, unrealistic earnouts, or soft terms might feel like a win, but it’s not fundable. Capital partners will walk, and worse, re-cutting terms after signing can fracture trust with the seller. John’s advice: pressure-test your LOI with capital providers before it reaches the seller’s desk. Call out red flags early—or risk killing the deal later. Strong diligence starts with a clear timeline, experienced advisors, and structured checkpoints to raise red flags before they become roadblocks. John warns that bad diligence often means avoiding tough conversations about risk. If you're not surfacing problems early, you're setting yourself up for failure post-LOI.Stay exit-ready from day one post-close. Even if you’re planning to hold for five years, act like you’ll sell in two. That means clean financials, documented systems, and clear growth metrics. You never know when the perfect buyer will come knocking. The sponsors who are prepared are the ones who cash in early.Choose advisors who know the IS model, not just deals in general. John shares that many first-time independent sponsors make the mistake of hiring advisors who don’t understand the nuances of independent sponsor deals, like capital stack structuring or running a capital raise alongside diligence. Look for professionals who have worked on multiple independent sponsor transactions and understand the pressure points before and after the LOI.About John KoeppelJohn Koeppel is a Partner at Lippes Mathias, where he leads the firm’s Private Equity and Independent Sponsor practice. With 25+ years of experience, John has structured and closed 250+ deals ranging from $5M to $250M+. His work has earned recognition from Best Lawyers in America, Chambers USA, and Super Lawyers.About Lippes MathiasLippes Mathias is a full-service law firm that advises independent sponsors, family offices, and institutional investors throughout the full lifecycle of a transaction—from LOI to exit. Known for its deep transactional experience and business-first mindset, the firm is a trusted legal partner to dealmakers across the lower middle market and beyond.

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• Ep. 134: Greg Mayer, Partner & Head of Portfolio Operations at Argosy Healthcare Partners

  Topics:3 Pillars of Growth for Small BusinessesHow to Assess Exit ReadinessTypes of Founder Transitions in PE Deals...and so much more.Top TakeawaysNot all revenue is worth the risk. Jordan shares how 51 Labs landed a $150K recruiting project—but was it smart expansion or just a distraction? Greg’s rule: If an opportunity adds complexity without strengthening your core, it’s a no-go. Instead, focus on adjacent services that deepen customer relationships.Incentives only work when they’re simple and tied to reality. At Argosy, the bonus system relies on two main principles: First, the company must meet a minimum profitability threshold; then, individual bonuses are paid based on specific, trackable KPIs. In smaller businesses, every hour and dollar counts, and your incentive structure should reflect that.You can’t scale what you haven’t stabilized. Founders rush into M&A for growth, but Greg warns: You can’t build the second floor before reinforcing the foundation. Most $1–3M EBITDA companies still lack robust finance, sales, and operations functions. Without those, acquisitions don’t create leverage—they multiply chaos.About Greg MayerGreg Mayer is a Partner and Head of Portfolio Operations at Argosy Healthcare Partners. A former U.S. Marine Corps Armor Officer turned private equity operator, he works hands-on with leadership teams to drive operational improvements and maximize shareholder value.About Argosy Healthcare PartnersArgosy Healthcare Partners is a private equity firm focused on founder-owned healthcare businesses in the lower middle market. Specializing in control transactions, the firm partners with leadership teams to preserve culture, reinvest in operations, and drive sustainable growth.

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• Ep. 133: Denise Logan, Best-Selling Author of “The Seller's Journey”

  Topics:Why Sellers Walk Away Last MinuteHow to Avoid Post-Sale RegretWhy Early Exit Planning Matters...and so much more.Top TakeawaysSelling a business is more than just a transaction. Most owners think they’re ready to sell—until they realize they’re walking away from more than just a company. Their business has been their routine, their problem to solve, their social circle, and their purpose. Without it, what gets them out of bed in the morning? That uncertainty breeds fear and hesitation, leading sellers to unconsciously derail deals with impossible demands. Denise emphasizes that the smoothest exits are both financially prepared and emotionally planned.M&A needs a human touch. For many owners, selling a business isn’t just a transaction. It’s letting go of something they built, nurtured, and sacrificed for. Yet, M&A language couldn’t be colder. Getting a “tombstone” to mark the sale can feel tone-deaf to someone selling their life’s work. Denise and Jordan agree: a little empathy, thoughtful communication, and recognizing the emotional weight of an exit can make the seller feel respected and understood.The key to a happy exit? Planning early. Most owners wait too long to think about selling—until burnout, personal changes, or an unexpected offer forces a rushed decision. The happiest exits happen when owners plan years in advance. Denise advises starting with two key steps: define what a successful exit looks like for you and identify what work provides beyond money. The sooner you know what you’ll need to replace, the smoother the transition will be.About Denise LoganDenise Logan knows what keeps business owners up at night. A former lawyer, mental health professional, and entrepreneur, she helps founders navigate the emotional side of selling their businesses. Her bestselling book “The Seller’s Journey” explores why owners struggle to let go and how advisors can help them transition smoothly.

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• Ep. 132: Vern Davenport, Partner at QHP Capital & Michael Curry, Co-Chairman and Co-CEO at Lullwater & Co., Part 2

  Topics:5-Element Hiring FrameworkHiring for Attributes vs. ExperienceMoneyball Thinking for Smart Hiring...and so much more.Top TakeawaysWhat happens when you work and lead with passion?Vern and Michael emphasize that passion is crucial for both business success and leadership. Passion keeps teams committed through challenges and drives both personal and professional growth. For leaders, it means embracing a growth mindset, being open to feedback, and fostering team development. Passion is just one element in Vern’s hiring framework—and a key predictor of success.Scorecards help you hire without the guesswork. Hiring practices often rely on gut feelings, making them prone to bias. Michael advocates using scorecards with measurable criteria like technical skills, cultural fit, and soft skills, along with clear performance expectations. This approach makes it easier to assess candidates objectively and sets the stage for accountability. When new hires understand what’s expected, they can focus on the right things to succeed in the role. When paying more helps small businesses scale faster. Vern and Jordan acknowledge that small and medium-sized businesses often hesitate to offer higher salaries. But hiring top-tier talent for critical roles is an investment in expertise that can drive results quickly. This aligns with Michael’s Moneyball approach to hiring. Just as the Moneyball thinking in baseball focuses on overlooked metrics to build a winning team, in business, the idea is to invest in key roles that might be costly upfront but will have outsized returns over time.About Vern DavenportVern Davenport is a partner at QHP Capital, a growth equity firm focused on healthcare, life sciences, and technology. He has held executive leadership roles at Misys Healthcare, Medfusion, M*Modal, and Allscripts, specializing in business transformation and operational execution. Vern is also one of the creators of The Management System, a structured framework for scaling businesses.About Michael CurryMichael Curry is the co-chairman and co-CEO of Lullwater & Co., an investment firm specializing in entrepreneurship through acquisition. A search funder turned investor, he is an experienced operator in the healthcare space. Michael scaled a healthcare services company through M&A and is now focused on building the next stage of his investment firm.DisclaimerThe opinions expressed herein are those of QHP Capital, L.P. (“QHP Capital”) and are subject to change without notice. Past performance is not indicative of future results. QHP Capital is a registered investment adviser with the U.S Securities and Exchange Commission. Registration does not imply a certain level of skill or training.

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