Investors & Operators

• Ep. 139: Chris Sznewajs, Managing Partner & Founder at Pacific Avenue Capital Partners

  Topics:Fundraising Lessons from a $1.6B FundA Carve-Out Playbook That ScalesWhy You Need a One-Page Strategy...and so much more.Top TakeawaysKeep strategy simple. Instead of 50-slide strategy decks, Chris insists on a one-pager with two to four clear priorities. Every team member, from associate to partner, should be able to recite them. Simplicity drives alignment and execution.3 actionable tips for hiring executives. First, focus on three traits: intelligence, hustle, and the ability to lead. Second, use third-party assessment tools to better evaluate candidates. Third, test humility in real life. At Pacific Avenue, that means taking candidates out to a meal and watching the small interactions. If someone can’t treat people well in everyday settings, they won’t be a good leader inside the company.Make it safe to fail, so you can win consistently. Pacific Avenue’s rule: surface mistakes quickly, fix them, and move on. In fundraising, it’s asking for genuine feedback when LPs push back and refining the pitch. In operations, it’s changing course when a carve-out plan isn’t working. As Chris puts it, “It’s okay to be wrong. It's not okay to stay wrong.”Look at the past to plan the future. When assessing carve-outs, Pacific Avenue starts by asking: What did this business look like before the corporate parent? Often, it was a strong, growing standalone that later got deprioritized. That history matters because if the business thrived once, there’s a strong case it can thrive again with the right strategy.About Chris SznewajsChris Sznewajs is the Managing Partner and Founder of Pacific Avenue Capital Partners. A veteran investor in complex carve-outs and special situations, he brings decades of experience in private equity and operational turnarounds. Before launching Pacific Avenue in 2018, he was a Principal at The Gores Group and began his career in Bain & Company’s restructuring practice. About Pacific Avenue Capital PartnersPacific Avenue Capital Partners is an LA-based private equity firm focused on middle-market carve-outs, corporate divestitures, and other complex situations. The firm works hand-in-hand with management teams to unlock value through operational improvements and growth strategies. With the rapid close of its $1.6B Fund II in under four months, Pacific Avenue now manages over $3.8B in AUM.

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• Ep. 138: Douglas Song, Managing Partner at Prodos Capital & Dan Lee, Partner at Pin High Strategies

  Topics:What to Prioritize in Your First DealHow to Vet Founder-Led CompaniesCapital Trends for Independent Sponsors...and so much more.Top TakeawaysBet on grit, not credentials. Dan jokes that both Jordan and Douglas had terrible business ideas when he first met them, but he backed them anyway for their grit and drive. Douglas echoes the same philosophy in his hiring practices. It’s not about Ivy League degrees, but how people show up when things go wrong. Character under pressure beats credentials on paper.Desperation ruins deals—discipline builds reputations. Dan shares how the pressure to close your first deal can cloud judgment. When you're afraid of spooking the seller, it’s tempting to rush diligence and ignore red flags. But one bad deal can damage your reputation for years. His advice: slow down, validate the opportunity, and don’t let emotion override your standards.It's never too early to address gaps. Douglas explains that waiting until after close to address gaps—like ERP systems implementation or CFO hires—can create unnecessary delays. Instead, start those workstreams during diligence. It sets clear expectations, secures buy-in from sellers, and ensures you hit the ground running from day one.About Douglas SongDouglas is the Managing Partner at Prodos Capital and a veteran independent sponsor with decades of experience in restructuring and lower-middle market buyouts. He focuses on founder-led businesses with strong cash flow and growth potential. Douglas was raised in a South Korean immigrant family of entrepreneurs—an experience that shaped the values he brings to his work today.About Prodos CapitalProdos Capital is a New York–based private investment firm operating under the independent sponsor model. It acquires and grows lower middle-market companies with strong cash flow and sustainable advantages. The team partners with management, capital providers, and operating partners to build long-term value without the constraints of a committed fund..About Dan LeeDan Lee is a seasoned investor and operator with experience in private equity, investment banking, and advisory. He recently started his own firm dedicated to serving the independent sponsor community. Dan brings a people-first approach grounded in collaboration, trust, and long-term partnerships.About Pin High StrategiesPin High Strategies is a boutique merchant banking and advisory firm that works with independent sponsors and founder-led businesses. Its services cover the full deal lifecycle, including sourcing, due diligence, structuring, execution, and post-close value creation.

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• Ep. 137: Maxwell Taylor, Managing Director at Novastone Partners

  Topics:Hybrid Model: PE + Search FundA Strong Operator ProfileEquity & Structure in Operator Deals...and so much more.Top TakeawaysSuccession is one of the biggest overlooked opportunities in the lower middle market. Over 50% of small business owners in the U.S. are nearing retirement age, but many lack a clear succession plan. For investors and operators, that’s an opportunity. Firms like Novastone Partners are targeting founder-owned businesses with $15M–$40M in enterprise value, where the right leadership transition can unlock serious value.Founders trust operators who’ve walked in their shoes. Founders want someone they can trust to take over. That’s why industry veterans often have an advantage. Operators in their 40s or 50s, with 20+ years in the same industry, can have peer-to-peer conversations with sellers from day one. They’re seen as real successors, not just financial buyers.The search will test you more than the acquisition itself. The search phase is where most aspiring buyers drop off. It’s long, unstructured, and full of dead ends. Even great operators can struggle if they underestimate how different sourcing is from leading. Don’t go it alone. Look for models like Novastone’s that offer salary, hands-on deal support, and a team to help with sourcing, outreach, and diligence. About Maxwell TaylorMaxwell Taylor is Managing Director at Novastone Partners, where he leads operator selection, platform development, and deal execution. With a background in private equity and experience working with mid-career executives, Max helps bridge the gap between operators and business ownership. About Novastone PartnersNovastone Partners is an operator-led buyout firm focused on solving the succession crisis in the lower middle market. The firm backs experienced industry executives to acquire and grow founder-owned businesses with $15M–$40M in enterprise value. Since 2020, Novastone has backed over 70 operators and closed 24+ acquisitions.

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• Ep. 136: Justin Smith, Managing Director at Agellus Capital

  Topics:Founder Misconceptions About PEFriction Points in Integration Signs a Business Is M&A-Ready...and so much more.Top TakeawaysRoll-ups require a clear playbook or you’ll struggle to scale. Justin shares that Agellus Capital targets fragmented, non-discretionary markets and looks for add-ons with high recurring revenue and complementary services. Without clear acquisition criteria, you risk stitching together unrelated businesses with no strategic fit. That leads to operational headaches, zero synergies, and a portfolio that’s tough to grow or sell.Integration fails when PE firms underestimate founder attachment. Every founder thinks their playbook is the gold standard, which makes cultural and operational alignment tough. Justin warns that without early investment in rebranding, leadership clarity, and shared values, resentment builds fast and integration risks becoming a post-close drag on value.Want to sell in 12–24 months? Focus on building a business that runs without you. Justin explains that to attract private equity buyers, founders need to nail three critical areas before pursuing M&A: scalable systems, consistent and defensible EBITDA, and a strong leadership team that doesn’t rely on the founder. Without these, you’re not selling a business—you’re selling your job.About Justin SmithJustin Smith is Managing Director and Head of Business Development at Agellus Capital. With 13+ years of experience in private equity, M&A advisory, and investment management, he leads the firm’s deal sourcing and relationship-building efforts. In 2025, he was named a “Private Equity BD Professional to Watch” by ACG.About Agellus CapitalAgellus Capital is a lower-middle-market private equity firm focused on essential, non-discretionary services in fragmented industries. The firm targets businesses with $2M–$20M of EBITDA and employs a disciplined buy-and-build strategy. Backed by a $400M debut fund, Agellus is actively scaling platforms across the U.S. through strategic acquisitions.

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• Ep. 135: John Koeppel, Partner & Private Equity/Independent Sponsor Leader at Lippes Mathias

  Topics:Pre-LOI: How Independent Sponsors Win DealsLOI Execution: Structure, Risks, MistakesGood vs. Bad Post-LOI DiligenceWhat Attracts and Repels Capital...and so much more.Top TakeawaysRollover is your edge against strategics. Strategic buyers often can’t offer it. Independent sponsors can—that’s your edge. Typical range is 10–40%, and when structured well, the second bite can be worth more than the first. It aligns incentives, keeps sellers engaged, and shows you’re building with them instead of just buying them out.An LOI isn’t a victory if it’s not fundable. Signing an LOI with mispriced risk, unrealistic earnouts, or soft terms might feel like a win, but it’s not fundable. Capital partners will walk, and worse, re-cutting terms after signing can fracture trust with the seller. John’s advice: pressure-test your LOI with capital providers before it reaches the seller’s desk. Call out red flags early—or risk killing the deal later. Strong diligence starts with a clear timeline, experienced advisors, and structured checkpoints to raise red flags before they become roadblocks. John warns that bad diligence often means avoiding tough conversations about risk. If you're not surfacing problems early, you're setting yourself up for failure post-LOI.Stay exit-ready from day one post-close. Even if you’re planning to hold for five years, act like you’ll sell in two. That means clean financials, documented systems, and clear growth metrics. You never know when the perfect buyer will come knocking. The sponsors who are prepared are the ones who cash in early.Choose advisors who know the IS model, not just deals in general. John shares that many first-time independent sponsors make the mistake of hiring advisors who don’t understand the nuances of independent sponsor deals, like capital stack structuring or running a capital raise alongside diligence. Look for professionals who have worked on multiple independent sponsor transactions and understand the pressure points before and after the LOI.About John KoeppelJohn Koeppel is a Partner at Lippes Mathias, where he leads the firm’s Private Equity and Independent Sponsor practice. With 25+ years of experience, John has structured and closed 250+ deals ranging from $5M to $250M+. His work has earned recognition from Best Lawyers in America, Chambers USA, and Super Lawyers.About Lippes MathiasLippes Mathias is a full-service law firm that advises independent sponsors, family offices, and institutional investors throughout the full lifecycle of a transaction—from LOI to exit. Known for its deep transactional experience and business-first mindset, the firm is a trusted legal partner to dealmakers across the lower middle market and beyond.

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