Build With AI

Corey Ganim
Build With AI
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  • Build With AI

    # 175 How I sell AI second brains for $5K each (full blueprint)

    25/06/2026 | 53min
    Grab Adam's free build guide for building, packaging, and selling your first AI knowledge base: https://corey-ganim.kit.com/a49b7bd19d
    Adam Sandler from Viable Edge is back on the pod, and this time he walks through the full blueprint for selling AI-powered knowledge bases as a service. The pitch to clients is simple: I will clean up all of your company knowledge, organize it, structure it, and turn it into a living asset that powers every AI tool you use going forward. No Obsidian, no RAG, no vectors. Just markdown files on a local machine. Adam builds the whole thing live on screen using Claude Code with a fictional company, shows the seven note types every knowledge base needs, and breaks down the pricing tiers from a $750 audit to a $4,700 premium build. The real insight is that the knowledge base is not the end product. It is the foundation that opens the door to every future engagement with that client.

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    Timestamps 

    01:18 – Why Adam leads with the knowledge base on every engagement
    02:55 – Knowledge base as a tripwire offer, same concept as the AI audit
    04:12 – The pitch: clean up your company knowledge and make it a living asset
    04:57 – You don't need Obsidian or RAG to start, markdown files are enough
    06:12 – Why a provider-agnostic knowledge base protects clients from platform risk
    07:00 – Token cost savings as a selling point for teams and enterprise
    08:45 – Anthropic enterprise going to pay-as-you-go and why that matters
    09:34 – The seven durable note types every knowledge base needs
    13:19 – How the seven types simplify the what do I include question
    14:13 – The spine concept: one foundational schema everything ladders up to
    15:58 – Module-by-module walkthrough of Adam's mini course
    16:58 – No client needs to touch Claude Code, this works in Cowork
    18:06 – Coaching moments as value-adds during the build
    18:29 – Live build: establishing the foundation with discovery prompts
    20:16 – The discovery questions mapped to the seven note types
    22:00 – Applying structure: from raw answers to schema
    25:31 – Summary of the build process so far
    27:01 – How to maintain the knowledge base after the initial build
    27:38 – Pricing: audit, core build, and premium build tiers
    29:09 – The knowledge audit as a foot-in-the-door offer
    30:10 – Positioning options: department-by-department builds for larger clients
    30:52 – The first knowledge base files and the index file
    34:50 – Three layers of context: hot, durable, and disposable
    35:47 – Setting up Cowork global instructions to recognize the knowledge base
    38:33 – The ingest skill: automating information intake from multiple sources
    39:47 – The curate skill: weekly health checks on the vault
    41:26 – Provider portability as a major selling point
    42:18 – Handling sensitive client information
    43:41 – Upselling from the knowledge base: let the data tell you what to build next
    46:16 – Light bulb moment: the knowledge base recommends its own next project
    47:08 – Value-add opportunities: competitive insights, call transcript analysis
    48:25 – Why solo practitioners can compete with startups in this space
    50:09 – Second brain as a service is going to be one of the hottest AI offers
    51:58 – Where to find Adam and the free guide

    Key Points

    The knowledge base solves the foundational problem every AI engagement runs into: where is the client's information and how is it organized? Starting here sets up every future project to succeed and gives you a reason to keep working with the client.
    There are seven durable note types that form the starting schema for any client: snapshot, people and contacts, ongoing conversations, preferences and rules, project history, decisions and rationale, and open loops. This framework answers the question of what to include and what to leave out.
    The spine is the one foundational piece of data everything else ladders up to. For most clients, it is their annual goals or objectives. Every other note in the knowledge base should be traceable back to it.
    No fancy technology is required to start. The entire build runs on markdown files. No Obsidian, no RAG, no vector databases. You can add sophistication later, but a simple implementation still delivers massive value and is easy to sell because there is zero technical friction for the client.
    The sales flow mirrors the AI audit model: a $750 knowledge audit maps where the client's information lives and what the schema should look like, then upsells into a $3,500 core build or $4,700 premium build. The audit fee gets credited toward the build.

    Two skills keep the knowledge base alive after the initial build. The ingest skill automatically processes new information from sources like Gmail, calendar, and an inbox folder. The curate skill runs weekly to flag stale notes, contradictions, open items, and gaps.

    The biggest upsell comes from the knowledge base itself. Once all of a client's context is in one place, you can query it for the top opportunities to implement AI next, and the client does not need to be sold because the data is making the case.
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  • Build With AI

    # 174 Building a one-person AI agent business that makes $50K/month

    22/06/2026 | 47min
    Grab Nick's exact blueprint for scaling a managed AI agent business to $50k/month: https://corey-ganim.kit.com/5e8c982461
    Use code COREY to get your first 3 days of Orgo.ai free then 20% off your first 3 months: https://www.orgo.ai/?r=COREY
    I brought on Nick Vasilescu, co-founder of Orgo, and we built out the complete blueprint for a one-person managed AI agent business that can hit $50K a month in recurring revenue. The model is straightforward: charge $5K per month per client for unlimited agents, unlimited tokens, and unlimited infrastructure. You handle everything so the business owner never has to think about what a token is or how to set up Hermes. We walk through the full stack, the offer, how to find and close clients, how to onboard them using an effort versus impact matrix, and how to deploy and manage agent fleets on Orgo. Nick even sets up a Hermes agent from scratch in twenty-six seconds live on screen. If you want a business you can start this week with skills you already have, this episode gives you the whole thing.
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    Timestamps

    00:00 – Intro and what you'll walk away with
    01:14 – The $5K per month per client blueprint overview

    01:46 – The biggest arbitrage: most businesses don't know what agents can do

    03:11 – The offer: unlimited tokens, agents, and infrastructure

    05:08 – Best industries for managed agents and how to pick a niche

    06:07 – Go broad first, let the market pull you into a niche
    08:06 – How to find clients: content, Upwork, and free work for case studies

    09:43 – Why your first clients should be free

    11:06 – Onboarding: voice recorder to workflow map to effort versus impact matrix

    12:32 – The audit as a foot-in-the-door offer

    14:49 – Steal this flow: free mini audit into paid audit into managed service
    16:00 – The agent stack: Hermes, Composio, and Orgo

    17:51 – Composio for one-click tool connections
    19:53 – Orgo walkthrough: spinning up workspaces and agent computers
    21:02 – How workspaces map to clients

    22:25 – The client never sees Orgo, it's your operator layer
    24:38 – Troubleshooting client agents from your phone

    26:49 – Building industry-specific productized agent apps

    27:59 – From audit transcript to deployed skill in ten minutes
    28:36 – Orgo discount code for the audience

    29:47 – Windows computers on Orgo: managing Codex and Claude Code for clients

    32:35 – Cloning agent templates for instant productization
    33:50 – Twenty-six second Hermes installation live on screen
    37:16 – The full stack: Hermes, Composio, Orgo, Agent Mail
    38:08 – Watchdogs: get alerted before your client notices a problem
    39:31 – Why being a good communicator is your biggest edge

    41:28 – Token cost management with Codex subscriptions
    41:36 – The math: ten clients equals $50K MRR at 85% margins

    43:04 – Why most people still won't take action
    45:00 – Thinking long term: the cost of intelligence is going to zero

    Key Points

    The core offer is simple: unlimited tokens, unlimited agents, unlimited infrastructure for $5K a month. Business owners do not care about the technical details. They want their problem solved, and your job is to remove all complexity.

    The best sales flow is a three-step funnel: a free mini audit that uncovers one pain point, a paid full audit for $1,000 that maps five to seven workflow opportunities, and then a $5K per month managed service where you credit the audit fee toward the first month.
    The effort versus impact matrix is the key to onboarding. After the first call, you map every workflow the client mentions, plot them by value versus effort, and start with the ones in the high-value low-effort quadrant. That first win is the hook.
    Orgo lets you manage fleets of agent computers across all your clients from one dashboard. Each client gets their own workspace. You can spin up a Hermes agent from a template in twenty-six seconds and clone golden snapshots to productize your setup across multiple clients in the same niche.
    Composio solves the biggest fulfillment bottleneck in managed agents: connecting all of a client's tools. The client connects their apps in one place, gives you the API key, and your agent has access to everything.

    The math works even with conservative assumptions. One new client every six weeks gets you to ten clients and $600K ARR in a year. Token costs per client run about $200 a month via a Codex subscription, leaving you with 85 percent or higher gross margins.

    Nick's long-term thesis: the cost of intelligence is going to zero. Even if you lose money on tokens in month one, the spread will widen every month as models get cheaper. Think about where the puck is going.
     Hermes Agent: https://www.hermes.agent Agent Mail: https://agentmail.to Excalidraw business blueprint diagram: [placeholder - link to diagram]
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    YouTube:@nickvasiles
    Orgo: https://www.orgo.ai
  • Build With AI

    # 173 The $5K AI offer that costs $9 to fulfill (how to build and sell it)

    18/06/2026 | 45min
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    I brought on Alex McDonnell from HyperAgent, which is the new agentic platform built by the team at Airtable, and we walked through a full business model for selling AI services to local brick-and-mortar businesses. The play is simple: use agents to find businesses with great reviews but terrible or nonexistent websites, have HyperAgent build them a new site automatically, then lead with that as a free tripwire offer. We go deep on the real upsell, which is revenue-driving systems like speed to quote tools for landscapers and mechanics that close deals faster. By the end of this episode, you'll have a complete offer structure you can take to any local business owner this week.
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    Timestamps
    00:00 – Intro
    00:43 – What HyperAgent is and the business model concept
    02:19 – Why this outreach wasn't possible before AI agents
    05:16 – The command center for managing agent-built prospects
    07:59 – Website before and after: Veslo Family Restaurant
    10:36 – How HyperAgent judges website quality on its own
    15:10 – Speed to quote system for a landscaping business
    19:53 – Why zero landscapers in your city have this yet
    22:55 – Pricing the offer: $5-10K setup plus monthly retainer
    26:14 – Live build: speed to quote for CS Automotive
    27:35 – Plan mode vs execute mode in HyperAgent
    30:39 – Running agents on a Kanban board in Airtable
    33:30 – Selling the agent itself as the product
    37:03 – Agent marketplace and the compute markup model
    38:05 – Live result: the CS Automotive quote tool finishes
    42:20 – Static artifacts as lead gen, always-on agents as the upsell

    Key Points
    The tripwire offer model works because agents can now build a full website for a local business in under an hour for about nine dollars in compute, turning what used to be a paid deliverable into a free lead gen tool.
    HyperAgent doesn't just find businesses without websites. It has the judgment to recognize that a business has a website but it's bad, which is a much harder problem that most agentic tools couldn't solve even a few months ago.

    The real money is not in the website. It's in upselling always-on revenue systems like speed to quote tools that help businesses close deals faster, priced as a $5-10K setup fee plus a monthly retainer of $200-1,000.
    The landscaping speed to quote example is the standout: a customer submits a photo of their yard and gets back three design variations with toggleable features, live pricing, and financing options, all generated by an agent.
    Every skill Alex builds for HyperAgent demos gets published for free on X and GitHub, so you can grab the landscaping build, install it, and take it to a client without building from scratch.
    HyperAgent's long-term vision includes an agent marketplace where creators publish agents and earn a markup on compute costs, making distribution feel free to the end user while the builder still gets paid.

    Airtable - System of record for managing agent workflows via Kanban boards - https://www.airtable.com
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  • Build With AI

    # 172 8 objections you'll get selling AI services (and how to destroy them)

    15/06/2026 | 11min
    Grab the free cheat sheet of all eight objections plus a how-to-use-them section - https://corey-ganim.kit.com/a2e17c90d1
    In this solo episode, I break down the eight most common objections you'll hear when pitching AI services to business owners, and I show you exactly how to destroy each one. I cover the QuickBooks analogy that handles "can't I just use ChatGPT myself," why skeptics need one concrete win in days instead of more hype, and the ROI flip that makes "it's too expensive" the easiest objection on the list. I also walk through the effort versus impact matrix for owners who tried AI and got bad results, the five pillars that prove no business is too specialized, and the exact framing for "let me think about it." By the end of this episode, you'll have a ready response for every objection standing between you and your next closed AI deal.

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    Timestamps
    00:00 – Intro
    00:14 – Objection 1: Can't I just use ChatGPT myself?
    01:25 – Objection 2: AI feels overhyped
    02:05 – Free cheat sheet of all eight objections
    02:33 – Objection 3: It's too expensive
    03:46 – Objection 4: I don't have time right now
    04:55 – Objection 5: I tried AI and got bad results
    05:40 – The effort versus impact matrix
    06:30 – Objection 6: My business is too specialized
    06:50 – The five pillars of an AI operating system
    07:30 – Objection 7: I don't want to replace my people
    09:00 – Objection 8: Let me think about it
    09:45 – The $999 AI assessment close
    10:25 – Recap and how to grab the cheat sheet

    Key Points

    You destroy "can't I just use ChatGPT myself?" with the QuickBooks analogy: you could do your own books, taxes, and insurance, but you pay an expert because they know what to do and you don't want to spend the time learning.

    "It's too expensive" is the easiest objection to overcome because you can always flip it to ROI. If a few thousand dollars buys back five hours a week or unlocks more revenue, the expensive option is doing nothing.

    "I don't have time" is the objection that proves the pitch. The owner has no time because they're buried in the exact day-to-day tasks you'd be automating.

    Most owners who tried AI and got bad results jumped straight into tinkering. The right way is auditing existing workflows with an effort versus impact matrix and stack-ranking exactly where AI makes sense.

    No business is too specialized for AI. Every business runs on follow-up, quoting, scheduling, and emails, and every business runs on the same five pillars: sales, marketing, finance, operations, and intelligence.

    Frame AI as automating tasks, not roles. It pulls the grunt work off the team so they can do the job they were actually hired for, and you never lead with replacing people.

    "Let me think about it" is usually a smokescreen. Reframe the real decision: every week of waiting is more hours lost to a task that could be automated, and the cost of staying stuck compounds.

    ChatGPT - https://chatgpt.com

    Claude - https://claude.ai

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  • Build With AI

    # 171 How I convert free mini assessments into $999 AI audits

    12/06/2026 | 9min
    Grab the full mini assessment playbook in Notion for free, including the first-call script and the second-call prep checklist: https://corey-ganim.kit.com/0cea7ca381
    In this solo episode, I hand over the complete free AI mini assessment framework I use to turn business owners into paid clients in two 15-minute calls. I walk through the three levers of ROI, the five questions to ask on the fact-finding call (including the ROI anchor and my favorite, the magic wand question), and how to pick the one bottleneck that sits at the intersection of high frequency and high friction. Then I break down the prescription tree, when to recommend an off-the-shelf tool, Claude Cowork, or a custom Claude skill, and the exact three things you bring to the follow-up call. By the end, you'll be able to run this assessment confidently in about 15 minutes and ask the money question that converts 30 to 50% of free assessments into paid work.
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    Timestamps
    00:00 – Intro
    00:14 – The lens: one bottleneck, one tool, one upsell
    00:30 – The three levers of ROI
    00:57 – Meeting one: the 15-minute fact-finding call
    01:25 – The forking question
    01:43 – The repetition question
    01:58 – The friction question
    02:10 – The ROI anchor question
    02:45 – The magic wand question
    03:35 – Closing call one and booking the follow-up
    03:55 – Between meetings: frequency and friction research
    04:43 – Meeting two: prescribing the one solution
    05:15 – Finding off-the-shelf tools in AI directories
    06:20 – Claude Cowork vs. a custom Claude skill
    07:08 – The three things you bring to call two
    07:40 – The money moment and the upsell question

    Key Points

    Every prescription has to pull one of three ROI levers: effectiveness (more revenue), efficiency (hours back in their week), or quality (happier customers). Let the owner pick the lever, then weight everything back to it.

    Meeting one is pure discovery. Prescribe nothing. Ask the five questions, listen, and close by naming the one bottleneck with the highest opportunity back to them.

    The ROI anchor: get the owner to quantify the pain in their own words. Two hours a week at $200 an hour is $400 a week they could get back, and that number does the selling for you.

    The bottleneck worth fixing sits at the intersection of high frequency and high friction. That's the one you prescribe. Everything else stays in your back pocket.

    The prescription tree: common tasks get an off-the-shelf tool, tasks involving judgment, writing, or research get Claude Cowork, and repeatable workflows unique to their business get a custom Claude skill.

    When prescribing a custom Claude skill, tell them the what, not the how. That gap is your upsell.

    Come to call two with three things, the name of the tool, what it costs, and the first step they could take this week, then ask the money question: hand it off, build it with you, or build it for you? 30 to 50% of the time, they say build it.

    Free Notion template with the full mini assessment playbook, first-call script, and second-call prep checklist - [ADD NOTION TEMPLATE LINK]

    There's An AI For That - AI tool directory searchable by industry to find off-the-shelf fixes - https://theresanaiforthat.com

    Futurepedia - another AI tool directory for matching tools to client pain points - https://www.futurepedia.io

    Claude Cowork - the prescription for tasks involving judgment, writing, or research - https://claude.com

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