AND/BOTH Podcast

Join AND/BOTH podcast guests and other listeners like you inside the AND/BOTH community!Connect with Sarah: Website: https://www.automynd.comLinkedInPersonal LinkedIn: Connect with Ashley:Website: https://dovetaildesigns.coPodcast website: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/Dovetail® App: https://airtable.com/appn6w6IWipJYIuA3/pagZys7UnECzM46iJ/formSocial:Instagram: @dovetailappFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/dovetaildesigns.coLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/Support AND/BOTH: Help us offset production costs while we're growing

Support AND/BOTH: Help us offset production costs while we're growingIn this engaging episode, Emmy-nominated producer Marni Blake Ellis shares her inspiring journey from an MTV internship to producing critically acclaimed documentaries, reality shows, and digital programming for major networks like HBO, Bravo, and TLC. As a mom and a seasoned industry professional, Marni discusses the challenges of balancing a demanding career, her battle with stress-related multiple sclerosis, and the joys of raising her son while adapting to the ever-changing landscape of television. She also delves into her creative outlet, the podcast Hi Felicia with Marnie and Felicia, co-hosted with her mom, where they explore pop culture, media, and their unique mother-daughter dynamic. Together, they embrace the chaos of reality TV while celebrating the authenticity and connection it can bring.Discussed in this episode:Marni’s career evolution from MTV intern to producing Emmy-nominated content and navigating the shifting landscape of TV and digital mediaBalancing her high-pressure career with motherhood, the impact of her MS diagnosis, and her decision to have one childThe creation of Hi Felicia with Marnie and Felicia, focusing on pop culture and the heartwarming and humorous bond with her momParenting in a digital world, managing screen time, and fostering traditional TV habits with her sonThe value of reality TV and pop culture as escapism and their evolving role in storytelling todayConnect with Marni: Website: https://www.instagram.com/marnijagger/Instagram: https://www.marniblake.comPodcast: Hi, Felicia! with Marni and FeliciaConnect with Ashley:Website: https://dovetaildesigns.coPodcast website: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/AND/BOTH Community: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/andboth-communityDovetail® App: https://airtable.com/appn6w6IWipJYIuA3/pagZys7UnECzM46iJ/formSocial:Instagram: @dovetailappFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/dovetaildesigns.coLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

Join Ashley and the guests of the AND/BOTH podcast in the brand-new AND/BOTH community! You will get monthly access to the community slack channel, early access to events, and discounted event rates! Today we’re joined by Lori Sugarman, a former marketing executive turned passionate advocate for the value of unpaid labor in the home. Lori shares her transformative journey from a high-level corporate career to a devoted stay-at-home role, only to discover how society systematically undervalues the invisible work of care and home management. Lori reframes the narrative around this labor and its importance to family, community, and overall societal wellness. This episode is packed with thought-provoking moments, actionable ideas, and a call to recognize the inherent worth of every contribution made in and outside the home. In this episode, we discuss:Lori’s journey from marketing executive to stay-at-home mom and community leaderThe pivotal moment when she was denied disability insurance for being “just a housewife” and how it ignited her mission to advocate for the value of unpaid laborThe societal devaluation of caregiving and domestic work and how it reflects in our systems, from insurance policies to GDP calculationsHow families can reframe “chores” and involve kids in a meaningful way to foster connection and lifelong skillsThe role of communication and collaboration in achieving equity in the home and breaking generational cycles of inequityLori's book, aimed at sparking family conversations about shared responsibility and the value of care workConnect with Lori:Website: Our Home, Our PrideLaurie’s Book: Our Home: The Love, Work, and Heart of Family (Amazon link-also available wherever books are sold! This is not an affiliate link)Connect with Ashley:And/Both website: https://andbothpodcast.comAnd/Both Instagram: @andboth_podcastWebsite: https://dovetaildesigns.coSupport AND/BOTH: Help us offset production costs while we're growingDovetail® Schedule Academy: https://dovetaildesigns.co/dovetail-schedule-academyCaregiver by Dovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-co/id6449788093Social:Instagram: @dovetaildesigns.coTikTok: @dovetaildesigns.coFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/dovetaildesigns.coLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

What do you do when the unimaginable happens? In this conversation, Melissa Saleh shares her profound journey through grief, motherhood, and the challenges of navigating loss. From her experiences as a corporate lawyer to her transition into tech and startups, she discusses the impact of her personal tragedies, including the loss of her first child, and how these experiences have shaped her identity and purpose. Melissa emphasizes the importance of storytelling as a means of healing and the need for a supportive environment for those experiencing loss. She also addresses the challenges faced by women in the workplace, particularly regarding maternity leave and the need for systemic change. Through her narrative, she aims to create a lighthouse for others who are navigating similar journeys, offering hope and understanding.About Melissa:Melissa Saleh is a serial entrepreneur who has spent her career at the intersection of technology and human behavior. Since 2004 she has combined storytelling and bleeding-edge technology to build successful products, companies and brands. In 2020 she cofounded FairPlay AI, the world's first Fairness-as-a-Service company. Prior to that she created and executed narrative strategies for companies including Facebook, Google, Citibank and GE. After founding the content strategy firm Brick Wall Media in 2013, she built up a roster of Fortune 500 clients and worked extensively with early-stage cos to develop their mission, voice and brand narrative, then communicate them powerfully to the world.As a journalist and editor, she launched and ran digital properties for The New York Times, Newsweek, Discover Magazine and others. She began her career as a labor and employment lawyer in New York City, then transitioned to media by founding the internationally-acclaimed blog Opinionistas, which revealed life inside the world's toniest law firms. She has written for The New York Times, The New York Observer, Wired, The Huffington Post, The Daily Beast and others, and has appeared on-air for CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Fox News, Fox Business and NPR. She received her JD from UVA School of Law and her BA from Dartmouth.Connect with Melissa:https://www.threads.net/@melissa.l.salehhttps://www.instagram.com/melissa.l.saleh/Connect with Ashley:Website: https://dovetaildesigns.coSupport AND/BOTH: Help us offset production costs while we're growingMother Founder RetreatDovetail® AppSocial:Instagram: @dovetailappTikTok: @dovetaildesigns.coFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/dovetaildesigns.coLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/