93. Beyond “The Talk”: Everyday Conversations About Sex, Bodies & Boundaries with Angie Enger
If you grew up in the 80s or 90s, you probably remember “the talk”, one awkward, fluorescent-lit conversation at school or a quick birds-and-bees download from your parents. But as parents today, we know it doesn’t work like that anymore.In this episode of AND/BOTH, I sit down with returning guest Angie Enger, a sex and self-intimacy coach, parent, and former teen clinic sex ed teacher, to talk about what it really looks like to have ongoing conversations with our kids about sex, consent, bodies, and relationships.We cover:Why you’ve probably already started “the talk” without realizing itHow to move beyond mechanics to values, boundaries, and consentThe role of partners (and why these aren’t just “mom conversations”)What to do when kids bring home confusing or surprising languageHow to find trusted resources and other adults to support these conversationsWhy messing up or changing your answer later is not only okay, but healthyWhether you’re parenting a curious five-year-old or a tween who suddenly knows more slang than you do, this conversation is here to remind you: you don’t have to be perfect, you just have to keep showing up.Resources Mentioned:TalkMore.org — conversation guides, age-appropriate tips, book listsMagnificent Sex (book by Peggy J. Kleinplatz & A. Dana Ménard)The Pregnant Body Book (DK Publishing)Recommended children’s books on body parts and puberty (Angie suggests buying both the “penis” and “vulva” versions!)About Angie:Angie Enger is a sex and self-intimacy coach with a background in counseling and human sexuality. She works with individuals and couples to strengthen their relationships with themselves and each other. Angie is also a parent navigating these conversations in real life, and she brings both expertise and lived experience to the table.Connect with Angie: http://angieenger.com orhttps://www.instagram.com/angieengercoachConnect with Ashley:Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comPodcast website: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/AND/BOTH Community: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/andboth-communityDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/Support AND/BOTH: Help us offset production costs while we're growing
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92. Living With Grief: Why It Never Leaves and How We Grow With It with Mandy Capehart
In this deeply honest and nourishing conversation, I’m joined by grief educator, somatic practitioner, and trauma-informed coach Mandy Capehart for a conversation that reaches far beyond loss—and straight into how we live, parent, and show up for ourselves and each other in the messiness of life.Mandy shares her personal journey through profound grief, including the loss of her mother and the unraveling of her previous life in the wake of that loss. We talk about the myth of “moving on,” what it means to support others in grief without needing to fix it, and how accepting grief as a lifelong companion (rather than a problem to solve) opens us up to deeper compassion, rest, and wholeness.We also explore:How grief lives in parenting—and why modeling rest, boundaries, and vulnerability for our kids mattersThe emotional labor of managing other people’s discomfort while you’re the one grievingWhy “urgent healing” is a lie and grief is never a one-and-doneWhat grief literacy is and how it can help us be better humans to each otherHow community care (even snack prep!) is part of real supportMandy’s work reminds us that we don’t have to be “fully put together” to be worthy of care or capable of growth. And if you’ve ever felt like you had to keep it all together while quietly falling apart, this episode is for you.Support AND/BOTH: Help us offset production costs while we're growingConnect with Mandy: Website: MandyCapehart.comInstagram & Threads: @MandyCapehartTwitter: @MandyCapehartBlueSky: @mandycapehart.bsky.socialPodcast: Restorative Grief with Mandy CapehartThe Guidebook: https://amzn.to/3XiqXm9Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mandycapehart Ebook (giveaway for your audience): https://www.mandycapehart.com/freeguide/ Enneagram specific ebook: https://www.mandycapehart.com/enneagramebook/ Connect with Ashley:Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comPodcast website: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/AND/BOTH Community: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/andboth-communityDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @dovetailappFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/dovetaildesigns.coLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/
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91. Roundtable #4: The Emotional Cost of Doing It All: Cancer, Burnout, and Boundaries
Support AND/BOTH: Help us offset production costs while we're growingIn this powerful and unfiltered roundtable episode, Ashley and Erin sit down with Heather Chauvin and Amri Kibbler, two women who have faced the unthinkable: a cancer diagnosis in the middle of motherhood, business, and everyday survival.Together, they open up about the moments they knew something was wrong, the delays in care, and how deeply ingrained patterns of people-pleasing and self-neglect played a role in their stories. But this conversation goes beyond cancer—it’s about reclaiming your intuition, setting real boundaries, and redefining what it means to take care of yourself as a woman and a mother.Inside this episode, we explore:The moment you know something is wrong but keep pushing throughWhat it means to advocate for yourself when no one else isHow emotional labor and caregiving become invisible burdensBurnout, grief, and the realities of parenting while healingLetting go of friendships and roles that no longer serve youWhy self-care isn’t a spa day—it’s a survival strategyRebuilding your life with intention after everything falls apartThis conversation is real, layered, and painfully relatable. It’s about what happens when you finally stop carrying everyone else and realize you’ve been disappearing in the process.Connect with Ashley:Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comPodcast website: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/AND/BOTH Community: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/andboth-communityGet the Dovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @dovetailappLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/Connect with Heather:https://heatherchauvin.com/timehttps://www.instagram.com/heatherchauvin_/Connect with Amri:https://www.instagram.com/amrikibbler/https://www.amrikibbler.com/
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90. Introducing Dovetail: Creating Room for Caregivers to Breathe, Build, and Belong
Support AND/BOTH: Help us offset production costs while we're growingAshley is solo this week to talk about caregiving, creativity, and what it really means to support mothers as whole people. She shares updates on her digital platform Dovetail, reopens consulting hours under Home Field Advantage, and introduces two exciting new offerings: the And/Both Community (now open!) and the Nurtured Entrepreneur Retreat (coming 2026).This is a personal, grounding episode about honoring the invisible work caregivers do—and why it’s time we make space for their dreams, too.Why caregiving is foundational to our economy—and how we can better support those holding it all togetherHow the Dovetail platform simplifies care coordination for families navigating aging, illness, or long-distance caregivingThe importance of honest conversations about aging, autonomy, and asking for help—before a crisis hitsHow to reclaim creative space as a caregiver or mom—including a sneak peek at the upcoming Nurtured Entrepreneur RetreatConnect with Ashley:Website: https://dovetaildesigns.coPodcast website: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/AND/BOTH Community: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/andboth-communityDovetail® App: https://airtable.com/appn6w6IWipJYIuA3/pagZys7UnECzM46iJ/formSocial:Instagram: @dovetailappFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/dovetaildesigns.coLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/
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89. [Re-Air] Layer by Layer: Solo Motherhood, Parental Leave, and Choosing a Human-Centered Life with Nicole Lenzen
Support AND/BOTH: Help us offset production costs while we're growingIn this throwback episode, Ashley sits down with Nicole Lenzen—a solo mom by choice, former wedding dress designer, tech consultant, and now a coach specializing in parental leave transitions. Nicole shares her unique journey through multiple career paths, a major health wake-up call, and the decision to become a solo parent. After navigating an overwhelming return-to-work experience post-leave, she pivoted into coaching to help others through similar transitions.The conversation explores:Why Nicole chose solo motherhood and how her medical diagnosis shaped that decisionHer nonlinear career—from Silicon Valley to couture bridal design to corporate consultingThe messiness and mismanagement of parental leave policies in the U.SHow chronic stress manifests physically—and how that led to Nicole’s shift toward a values-aligned lifeCreating human-centered systems within corporate cultureHer current work helping both individuals and companies navigate parental leave with empathy and structureThis episode is filled with powerful reflections on identity, intergenerational trauma, and how corporate systems often fail parents—especially mothers. Nicole and Ashley talk honestly about the emotional and logistical load of parenthood, lack of support in the workplace, and how change is slowly being pushed forward by people who are no longer willing to “stick their head in the blender” and pretend it’s normal.Connect with Ashley:Website: https://dovetaildesigns.coPodcast website: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/AND/BOTH Community: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/andboth-communityDovetail® App: https://airtable.com/appn6w6IWipJYIuA3/pagZys7UnECzM46iJ/formSocial:Instagram: @dovetailappFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/dovetaildesigns.coLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/
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