Copywriters Podcast

• How AI Can Run Your Business, With Sam Woods

  Our returning champion is Sam Woods, who’s been using AI for business in very big ways since 2016. That’s a lot longer than most people, including me. And Nathan. And we’re both big fans of AI for copywriting! But more important for today’s show, we’re big fans of Sam Woods! And last time he was here, Sam gave us some highly valuable insights and hands-on tips for using AI with copywriting. But over the past 10 years, Sam has also developed his own methodologies, training, and frameworks for building and growing online businesses in areas outside of copywriting. Systems. Automations. In ways you might have imagined on the surface, and ways you could not possibly have imagined. A refresher about Sam’s background: He got started with machine learning in 2016 and generative AI in 2019. He was a pioneer in prompt engineering for AI copywriting, and marketing. Sam has advised Fortune 1,000 companies and teams across the world, as well as advised and consulted with CEOs and other C-Suite executives. He describes himself as “a strategic AI architect who advises C-Suite leaders on turning artificial intelligence into their most powerful competitive advantage.” And he’s going to share a little bit of that massive store of wisdom with us today. So before we start the interview, let me remind you first that Copy is powerful. You’re responsible for how you use what you hear on this podcast. Most of the time, common sense is all you need. But if you make extreme claims... and/or if you’re writing copy for offers in highly regulated industries like health, finance, and business opportunity... you may want to get a legal review after you write and before you start using your copy. My larger clients do this all the time. 1. You’ve been talking about a mindset shift, away from prompts and more towards how AI can handle small or large portions of a business. Can you remember the first time when this became obvious to you, and what was that like? 2. For one of our listeners who’s juggling client work and marketing, what would you say is the first place they should consider using AI to automate the business? 3. You said in a tweet that AI that really caught my eye that AI systems should run “24/7” like invisible staff. Could you tell us about one or more everyday tasks you’ve automated yourself that have made a major difference in your business? 4. What are some other ways to use AI that most people aren’t thinking about? 5. Could you talk about the concept of migrating mindset from a “factory” model of business to a “neural network” model, especially when working with AI? 6. What’s the biggest mistake you see people making when they start building business systems around AI? 7. Looking ahead two years, what are the best habits and knowledge our listeners can start to develop now so they’re not behind the curve when AI takes over even more of the market? Sam’s website: https://samueljwoods.com/ Other resources: https://bionicbusiness.com https://www.copywriting.ai/d.]]>

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• Alfred Adler’s Forbidden Psychology

  In 1911, psychology pioneer Alfred Adler resigned from the presidency of a prestigious society in Vienna—and Sigmund Freud took it personally and deemed Adler an enemy. It didn’t stop there. Freud continued to rail against Adler until Freud’s death in 1939. The details of the dispute are kind of technical and petty, and we won’t get into them today. The effects, however, were massive: Because of Freud’s opposition, Adler’s work was suppressed for decades. And this is important. See, Adler had some powerful ideas that, decades later, have found their way into a number of well-accepted branches of psychology today – Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Positive Psychology, Family Systems Therapy, to name only a few. Yet Adler’s original work remains unknown to most people. Where this fits into copywriting is that some of Adler’s core ideas are enormously useful. They can help you with big ideas, hooks, headlines, and understanding customer motivation at a deep level. d.]]>

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• Selling Them With Kindness, With Cath Reohorn

  Nick Lowe had a big hit on the top 40 back in the day called “Cruel to be Kind.” Interesting idea, but how about this one? “Kind to be Kind.” Now there’s a novel idea. And it’s the guiding principle of copywriter and agency owner Cath Reohorn, who has taken this philosophy to £1 million/month in revenues for her clients. So you don’t have to do the math, that’s about $1.3 million per month. Now, how does she do it? Today, on Copywriters Podcast, you’ll find out exactly how. Now, back to the idea of “Kind to be Kind.” Cath’s agency is called Kind Copy, and she defines the guiding principle this way: “Kind copy stands for not twisting the knife. This anti-cruelty stance isn’t just an ethical standpoint. It’s a tactical advantage for services where the client needs to be actively involved in their process (like coaching and consulting).” We’ll dive deep into that in a moment. First, A little more about Cath and her business: She lives in Wales in the UK. She has a true family business, since it employs herself, her husband, her sister and 2 other team members. What’s even more impressive, they grew with organic marketing to over £1m/month before she ever ran an ad. Here's what we asked her: 1. You have chosen as your niche high-end fitness businesses, and you've said you're bringing them about £1 million/month in sales. How did you decide to focus on that niche? 2. What are you doing in the way of copy and strategy for these clients that's proving most profitable? 3. Could you explain your philosophy of Kind Copy and give us a couple of contrasting examples: typical copy vs. Kind Copy? 4. Your approach is to use organic content to drive sales. Could you tell us a little about that? 5. You said in a LinkedIn post: "The best marketing isn't about manipulation... it's about CHANGE WORK." Could you talk about that? 6. How are you using AI to lighten the load and let yourself focus on what you're really good at and/or what you enjoy doing the most? 7. If someone were to start out in the agency business today, what are the first three things you would advise them to learn or do (or both)? Cath’s website: https://kindcopy.co.uk/ Cath’s social media links: https://www.x.com/kindcopy https://www.instagram.com/kindcopyuk/ d.]]>

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• Evergreen Money Machine, With James Allen

  What do you do if you’ve tried and tried, six times, and what you’re trying to make happen… never happens? That was the dilemma facing our special guest today, James Allen. “I built 6 different funnels and courses that didn't make me a penny until I changed my strategy,” he says. “Finally, I built one that sold for me in my sleep—on repeat.” In my mind, that’s an evergreen money machine. James got so good at this that he helps coaches and content creators enjoy the same benefits of automated and scalable income that he has. James started out in construction, and left that to become a spiritual life coach at age 22. Then, he became a productivity coach and subsequently shifted into helping people create evergreen funnels. He’s shared plenty of money-while-you-sleep secrets that really work on our show today. Here’s what we asked him: 1. What would you say is the biggest mistake course creators make when it comes to building products? 2. What are some tips for making sure you're building something people would like to buy? 3. How do you recommend a course creator launch the product? What are some crucial steps? 4. Once the product's launched, do you recommend building an automated system that sells the product for you? 5. How do you keep getting leads and sales without driving yourself crazy posting on social media, or draining your bank account with ads? 6. Could you tell us about one of your successful clients and how things are working out for that person? 7. How can people get in touch with you (or find out about your product/service)? Links: Free Training: Earn Your First $2,000/mo With Digital Products - https://www.profityourknowledge.com/masterclass Work With James 1on 1 - https://www.profityourknowledge.com/apply d.]]>

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• Instant Creativity Boosters

  You can’t fake it. It seems like you can’t force it. But when creativity shows up at the right moment — your copy comes alive. Sometimes it’s the difference between a flat headline and a breakthrough idea. Between a click and a sale. Between a promotion that falls flat and a control that blows the doors off. On the other hand, when it doesn’t show up — that’s when things get rough. Here’s the thing, though. Creativity isn’t magic. Oh, I know it seems like magic–especially when great new ideas spring up, seemingly out of nowhere. And sometimes you feel like only a magic trick—or a miracle—would save you, when you’re stuck or going through a dry spell. But the truth is, creativity is something you can spark, pretty much on demand. All you need is the right tools. And that’s what we’ll talk about today. (Here are the 10 techniques we talked about.) 1. Get Moving — Walk, stretch, get your body moving. 2. Quantity Before Quality — Don’t stop at the first idea. Write twenty-one. 3. Creativity on Demand — Build habits and rituals to trigger flow. 4. Totally Random — Use odd words or images to spark new ideas. 5. Talk, Talk, Talk — Say your pitch out loud before you write it. 6. Go Contrarian — Flip the script and challenge the norm. 7. Exaggerate — Push an idea too far to find something bold. 8. Swipe Outside Your Lane — Look in markets besides your niche for structures and angles. 9. Let Customers Talk — Check out customer feedback for phrasing and emotion. 10. Perspective Shift — Zoom out. Pretend it’s not your project. d.]]>

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