Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder

• From Chaos to Control: How a Fractional CFO Can Transform Your Business – Jim Emerich

  What does it take to bring financial clarity to a growing business? In this episode of Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder, we’re cutting through the noise with Jim Emerich, founder and CEO of Backbone CFO, to talk about how businesses can move from financial chaos to control—and why a fractional CFO might be the key to making it happen. Jim shares hard-earned insights on when a company is ready for financial leadership beyond bookkeeping, and how strategic forecasting, cash flow modeling, and dynamic financial planning can transform operations. He breaks down his "chaos to control" framework, anchored by five core pillars: cash, profit, people, systems, and position. If you're advising business owners—or you are one—you'll want to hear this conversation. It’s packed with practical guidance for creating a more stable, scalable, and ultimately more valuable company. About Our Guest: Jim Emerich is the founder of and CEO at Backbone CFO. His professional career boasts many accomplishments, including Chief Financial Officer at Parts Life Inc. During his time at PLI, he led efforts to acquire DeVal Life Cycle Support as well as LC Engineers, Inc. and successfully integrated both companies into the PLI family. He has closed financing deals including acquisition, real estate, working capital and equipment financing. Though he experienced an exciting career trajectory, in his heart he knew small business was always near and dear. This passion ultimately led him to focus on launching Backbone CFO with the primary purpose of creating clarity for growth-minded business owners. About the Host: Dave Bookbinder is known as an expert in business valuation and he is the person that business owners and entrepreneurs reach out to when they need to know what their most important assets are worth. Known as a collaborative adviser, Dave has served thousands of client companies of all sizes and industries.  Dave is the author of two #1 best-selling books about the impact of human capital (PEOPLE!) on the valuation of a business enterprise called The NEW ROI: Return On Individuals & The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers.  He’s on a mission to change the conversation about how the accounting world recognizes the value of people’s contributions to a business enterprise, and to quantify what every CEO on the planet claims: “Our people are this company’s most valuable asset.” Dave’s book, A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know, was recognized as a top new release in Business and Valuation and is designed to provide practical insights and tools to help understand what really drives business value, how to prepare for an exit, and just make better decisions. He’s also the host of the highly rated Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder business podcast which is enjoyed in more than 100 countries.   🔸 Grab Dave’s Books: The New ROI: Return on Individuals  | The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers  |  A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know 🔸 Connect with Dave on LinkedIn  🔸 Connect with Dave on FaceBook 🔸 Follow Dave on Twitter 🔸 Check out www.NEWROI.com for more. 💡  Want to share your insights with the business community? Message Dave to learn how you can be a guest on Behind The Numbers. https://linktr.ee/BehindTheNumbers 🔹 Check out more of Behind The Numbers on YouTube Subscribe to Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please share it with your network and leave a review—it helps more business owners and advisors discover the show! BEHIND THE NUMBERS WITH DAVE BOOKBINDER IS AN AWARD-WINNING PODCAST THAT IS ENJOYED IN MORE THAN 100 COUNTRIES. THANK YOU FOR MAKING BEHIND THE NUMBERS AMONG THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS GLOBALLY!  

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• The Five Stages of Leadership – Liz Weber

  What separates effective leaders from those who stall out? In this episode of Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder, we explore the answer with leadership strategist Liz Weber—author, speaker, and founder of Weber Business Services. Liz unpacks the core ideas from her latest book, Something Needs to Change Around Here: The Five Stages to Leveraging Your Leadership. She breaks down the leadership development journey, from “doing” the work to effectively “leading” others—and why most people get stuck in stage two. If you've ever struggled with delegation, role clarity, or stepping back to truly lead, this conversation offers a clear roadmap forward. Dave and Liz also explore: The most common leadership transition traps Why succession planning isn’t about family—it’s about fit The critical role of organizational culture in developing talent How self-awareness and strategy combine to drive performance Whether you're a business owner, advisor, or aspiring leader, you’ll walk away with practical insights you can apply immediately. About Our Guest: Liz has been named a Top Leadership Influencer by LeadersHum, a Top HR Influencer to Watch by HR Exchange Network, and a Top HR Influencer by BambooHR. She is one of fewer than 100 people in the U.S. to hold both the Certified Speaking Professional (CSP) and Certified Management Consultant (CMC) designations; the highest earned designations in two different professions.  As the President of Weber Business Services, LLC, a management consulting, training, and speaking firm, Liz provides strategic and succession planning, executive coaching, and leadership training to boards, business owners and leadership teams, as well as to associations and government agencies.  Liz holds an MBA in International Business and has extensive association leadership experience. She has served six years as a national board director, and three years as a national foundation trustee and as the presidential appointee to the Global Speakers Federation. Liz has supervised business activities in 129 countries and has presented in over 20 countries. In addition to writing more than ten leadership books, and her monthly Leadership Insights blog, Liz posts to social media daily. Liz was also  named one of 2025 Top 30 Global Gurus for Leadership along with Simon Sinek and John Maxwell. So, when Liz Weber talks, her clients listen. Liz is an advisor to boards, owners, and C-Suite teams. She’s a leadership, strategic and succession planning consultant, author, and speaker.  About the Host: Dave Bookbinder is known as an expert in business valuation and he is the person that business owners and entrepreneurs reach out to when they need to know what their most important assets are worth. Known as a collaborative adviser, Dave has served thousands of client companies of all sizes and industries.    Dave is the author of two #1 best-selling books about the impact of human capital (PEOPLE!) on the valuation of a business enterprise called The NEW ROI: Return On Individuals & The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers.  He’s on a mission to change the conversation about how the accounting world recognizes the value of people’s contributions to a business enterprise, and to quantify what every CEO on the planet claims: “Our people are this company’s most valuable asset.” Dave’s book, A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know, was recognized as a top new release in Business and Valuation and is designed to provide practical insights and tools to help understand what really drives business value, how to prepare for an exit, and just make better decisions. He’s also the host of the highly rated Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder business podcast which is enjoyed in more than 100 countries. 🔸 Grab Dave’s Books: The New ROI: Return on Individuals  | The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers  |  A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know 🔸 Connect with Dave on LinkedIn  🔸 Connect with Dave on FaceBook 🔸 Follow Dave on Twitter 🔸 Check out www.NEWROI.com for more. 💡  Want to share your insights with the business community? Message Dave to learn how you can be a guest on Behind The Numbers. https://linktr.ee/BehindTheNumbers 🔹 Check out more of Behind The Numbers on YouTube Subscribe to Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please share it with your network and leave a review—it helps more business owners and advisors discover the show! BEHIND THE NUMBERS WITH DAVE BOOKBINDER IS AN AWARD-WINNING PODCAST THAT IS ENJOYED IN MORE THAN 100 COUNTRIES. THANK YOU FOR MAKING BEHIND THE NUMBERS AMONG THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS GLOBALLY!  

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• Rethinking Executive Presence: Authentic Leadership in a Changing World – Katherine Lazaruk

  Is “executive presence” still about polished suits and boardroom bravado—or has the definition evolved? In this episode of Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder, we’re unpacking the future of leadership with Katherine Lazaruk, founder of Lazaruk Consulting and author of Executive Being: Humanizing Business One Leader at a Time. Katherine is on a mission to redefine what it means to lead in today’s workplace—one that demands authenticity, adaptability, and a more human approach to business. Together, we explore why “bringing your whole self to work” is more than a catchphrase, how leaders can show up with credibility and vulnerability, and why outdated norms around appearance and behavior no longer serve the modern professional. We also discuss: How toxic positivity undermines trust and performance What generational shifts mean for leadership expectations The balance between authenticity and professionalism Why the old playbook for executive presence is due for a rewrite Whether you're leading a team, advising clients, or looking to evolve your own leadership style, this episode offers a fresh perspective on what it really means to show up—and stand out. About Katherine Lazaruk Katherine Lazaruk is a professional presence expert who helps leaders and their teams walk the walk, talk the talk and look the part. She is passionate about achieving gender parity in her lifetime and through her coaching, consulting, and speaking, she works with women and champions of women to get more women into senior leadership faster. Recognizing that we are currently in a shifting paradigm, she works within the system to change the system for teams and individuals alike to create a kinder, gentler, and more effective world. Katherine holds degrees in Voice Performance and Education, holds her second level international designation of Certified Image Professional (CIP) with the Association of Image Consultants International (AICI) and her Professional Certified Coach (PCC) designation with the International Coach Federation (ICF). She has also been Vice-Chair of the Women’s Leadership Council Advisory Committee with the Greater Vancouver Board of Trade and served for six years as the Secretary of the AICI Canada Chapter Board. She has been a member of the nominations committee for the YWCA Vancouver Women of Distinction Awards and volunteered with two of their programs for women, sharing her expertise on professional presence and currently serves on the Global DEI Committee for AICI. She is the author of "Executive Being: Humanizing Business One Leader at a Time.” About the Host: Dave Bookbinder is known as an expert in business valuation and he is the person that business owners and entrepreneurs reach out to when they need to know what their most important assets are worth. Known as a collaborative adviser, Dave has served thousands of client companies of all sizes and industries.    Dave is the author of two #1 best-selling books about the impact of human capital (PEOPLE!) on the valuation of a business enterprise called The NEW ROI: Return On Individuals & The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers.  He’s on a mission to change the conversation about how the accounting world recognizes the value of people’s contributions to a business enterprise, and to quantify what every CEO on the planet claims: “Our people are this company’s most valuable asset.” Dave’s book, A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know, was recognized as a top new release in Business and Valuation and is designed to provide practical insights and tools to help understand what really drives business value, how to prepare for an exit, and just make better decisions. He’s also the host of the highly rated Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder business podcast which is enjoyed in more than 100 countries. 🔸 Grab Dave’s Books: The New ROI: Return on Individuals  | The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers  |  A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know 🔸 Connect with Dave on LinkedIn  🔸 Connect with Dave on FaceBook 🔸 Follow Dave on Twitter 🔸 Check out www.NEWROI.com for more. 💡  Want to share your insights with the business community? Message Dave to learn how you can be a guest on Behind The Numbers. https://linktr.ee/BehindTheNumbers 🔹 Check out more of Behind The Numbers on YouTube Subscribe to Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please share it with your network and leave a review—it helps more business owners and advisors discover the show! BEHIND THE NUMBERS WITH DAVE BOOKBINDER IS AN AWARD-WINNING PODCAST THAT IS ENJOYED IN MORE THAN 100 COUNTRIES. THANK YOU FOR MAKING BEHIND THE NUMBERS AMONG THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS GLOBALLY! Subscribe to Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please share it with your network and leave a review—it helps more business owners and advisors discover the show!

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• Mental Strength Is the New Leadership Superpower – Scott Mautz

  What separates good leaders from great ones? Mental strength. In this episode of Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder, we're unpacking the psychology of leadership with Scott Mautz—CEO of Profound Performance and author of The Mentally Strong Leader. Scott brings deep insight from his executive tenure at Procter & Gamble and shares how the same mindset tools he used to lead at the highest level can be developed by anyone. You’ll learn: Why mental strength—not just technical skills—is what drives results The six "mental muscles" that define today’s most effective leaders: Confidence, Boldness, Fortitude, Decision-Making, Goal Focus, and Messaging How to assess your own mental fitness and build the capacity to thrive under pressure This isn't soft skills fluff—it's a hard-edged look at how mental resilience fuels performance, productivity, and purpose. Whether you're leading a team, a company, or just trying to lead yourself more effectively, this conversation delivers actionable strategies that can shift your trajectory. About Scott Mautz: SCOTT MAUTZ, author of THE MENTALLY STRONG LEADER, is the founder and CEO of Profound Performance, a keynote, training, and coaching company. Mautz is a former Procter & Gamble executive who successfully ran four of the company’s largest multi-billion dollar businesses, he is also the multi award-winning author of Leading from the Middle, Find the Fire, and Make It Matter.  Scott has been named a “CEO Thought-leader” by The Chief Executives Guild and a "Top 50 Leadership Innovator" by Inc.com, He is faculty on reserve at Indiana University’s Kelley School of Business for Executive Education and is a top instructor at LinkedIn Learning. Get your free mental strength assessment here: https://scottmautz.com/mentallystrong/ About the Host: Dave Bookbinder is known as an expert in business valuation and he is the person that business owners and entrepreneurs reach out to when they need to know what their most important assets are worth. Known as a collaborative adviser, Dave has served thousands of client companies of all sizes and industries.  Dave is the author of two #1 best-selling books about the impact of human capital (PEOPLE!) on the valuation of a business enterprise called The NEW ROI: Return On Individuals & The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers.    He’s on a mission to change the conversation about how the accounting world recognizes the value of people’s contributions to a business enterprise, and to quantify what every CEO on the planet claims: “Our people are this company’s most valuable asset.” Dave’s book, A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know, was recognized as a top new release in Business and Valuation and is designed to provide practical insights and tools to help understand what really drives business value, how to prepare for an exit, and just make better decisions. He’s also the host of the highly rated Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder business podcast which is enjoyed in more than 100 countries. 🔸 Grab Dave’s Books: The New ROI: Return on Individuals  | The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers  |  A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know 🔸 Connect with Dave on LinkedIn  🔸 Connect with Dave on FaceBook 🔸 Follow Dave on Twitter 🔸 Check out www.NEWROI.com for more. 💡  Want to share your insights with the business community? Message Dave to learn how you can be a guest on Behind The Numbers. https://linktr.ee/BehindTheNumbers 🔹 Check out more of Behind The Numbers on YouTube Subscribe to Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please share it with your network and leave a review—it helps more business owners and advisors discover the show! BEHIND THE NUMBERS WITH DAVE BOOKBINDER IS AN AWARD-WINNING PODCAST THAT IS ENJOYED IN MORE THAN 100 COUNTRIES. THANK YOU FOR MAKING BEHIND THE NUMBERS AMONG THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS GLOBALLY!  

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• The Role of Human Judgment in an AI World - JJ Ghatak

  Is your performance management system helping your team thrive—or holding them back? In this episode of Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder, we're joined by JJ Ghatak, founder and CEO of Onloop, who shares how he's rethinking team assessment and development for the modern workplace. Drawing from his leadership experience at Uber and his journey as an angel investor, JJ offers a deep dive into how AI—particularly generative AI—is transforming the way teams set goals, receive feedback, and grow together. We unpack: The fundamental flaws in traditional performance management systems Why goal clarity and continuous feedback are critical for high-performing teams Onloop’s innovative five-layer team management framework: energy, targets, superpower feedback, blind spots, and micro-coaching How to combat burnout while fostering personal and team growth The evolving responsibilities of leaders and managers in the AI era JJ also shares his predictions on the future of work, highlighting why soft skills and human judgment are becoming even more valuable in an AI-driven world. Whether you're a business owner, team leader, or advisor helping organizations adapt to change, this episode offers powerful insights into aligning business goals with human potential. About Our Guest: JJ (Projjal) Ghatak, the visionary founder and CEO of OnLoop, is at the forefront of revolutionizing team assessment and development. With an impressive background that includes leadership roles at Uber and Accenture, Projjal has established himself as a seasoned executive in strategy and operations. Armed with an MBA from Stanford, he has chosen Singapore as the base for his entrepreneurial endeavors. As the CEO of OnLoop, Projjal leads a diverse and global team, spearheading the transformation of the future of work through the company's innovative approach. With his extensive experience and strategic vision, Projjal is reshaping the industry by leveraging cutting-edge technologies and empowering teams to reach their fullest potential. Under his guidance, OnLoop continues to disrupt traditional paradigms and deliver game-changing solutions in team assessment and development. About the Host: Dave Bookbinder is known as an expert in business valuation and he is the person that business owners and entrepreneurs reach out to when they need to know what their most important assets are worth. Known as a collaborative adviser, Dave has served thousands of client companies of all sizes and industries.  Dave is the author of two #1 best-selling books about the impact of human capital (PEOPLE!) on the valuation of a business enterprise called The NEW ROI: Return On Individuals & The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers.  He’s on a mission to change the conversation about how the accounting world recognizes the value of people’s contributions to a business enterprise, and to quantify what every CEO on the planet claims: “Our people are this company’s most valuable asset.” Dave’s book, A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know, was recognized as a top new release in Business and Valuation and is designed to provide practical insights and tools to help understand what really drives business value, how to prepare for an exit, and just make better decisions. He’s also the host of the highly rated Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder business podcast which is enjoyed in more than 100 countries. 🔸 Grab Dave’s Books: The New ROI: Return on Individuals  | The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers  |  A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know 🔸 Connect with Dave on LinkedIn  🔸 Connect with Dave on FaceBook 🔸 Follow Dave on Twitter 🔸 Check out www.NEWROI.com for more. 💡  Want to share your insights with the business community? Message Dave to learn how you can be a guest on Behind The Numbers. https://linktr.ee/BehindTheNumbers 🔹 Check out more of Behind The Numbers on YouTube Subscribe to Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please share it with your network and leave a review—it helps more business owners and advisors discover the show! BEHIND THE NUMBERS WITH DAVE BOOKBINDER IS ENJOYED IN MORE THAN 100 COUNTRIES AND WAS RECENTLY NAMED THE “#1 BUSINESS VALUATION PODCAST TO FOLLOW” BY FEEDSPOT; AND THE “BEST BUSINESS VALUATION PODCAST” BY MILLION PODCASTS. – THANK YOU FOR MAKING BEHIND THE NUMBERS AMONG THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS GLOBALLY! Subscribe to Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please share it with your network and leave a review—it helps more business owners and advisors discover the show!  

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