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The Sales Evangelist

Donald C. Kelly
The Sales Evangelist
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  • The Sales Evangelist

    Bad Mouthing Your Competitor | Donald C. Kelly - 2017

    06/07/2026 | 14min
    How do you handle competitor questions without sounding defensive, desperate, or unprofessional?
    In this solo episode, Donald C. Kelly shares three practical strategies for talking about competitors with confidence and credibility. Instead of attacking another company, he explains how to use customer stories, thoughtful questions, and your prospect's own insights to position your solution as the better fit.
    If you're in a competitive sales environment, this episode will help you navigate competitor conversations in a way that builds trust and moves deals forward.
    Episode Breakdown with Timestamps:
    Why You Should Prepare for Competitor Conversations (00:00:31 – 00:01:30)
    Donald explains that prospects are often evaluating multiple vendors at the same time.
    Rather than being surprised by competitor questions, sales professionals should prepare their messaging ahead of time and understand where their solution stands out.
    He emphasizes that preparation gives sellers confidence when those conversations arise.

    Lead With Your Strengths Instead of Attacking Competitors (00:01:31 – 00:02:30)
    Donald shares his first strategy for handling competitor discussions.
    Instead of naming competitors or criticizing them directly, he recommends emphasizing the areas where your solution performs best while subtly addressing gaps that prospects may experience elsewhere.
    The goal is to keep the conversation focused on solving the customer's problem rather than attacking another company.

    Let Customer Stories Do the Talking (00:02:31 – 00:07:30)
    Donald introduces his favorite approach: using customer success stories to explain why buyers switched from a competitor.
    Drawing from his experience competing against Laserfiche in the document management industry, he demonstrates how to acknowledge what a competitor does well before explaining why customers ultimately chose a different solution.
    He explains that customer experiences carry far more credibility than sales claims because they come from real users rather than the salesperson.

    Use Reviews and Testimonials as Third-Party Validation (00:06:01 – 00:07:30)
    Donald encourages sales professionals to study customer reviews on platforms like G2 and Google Reviews.
    Instead of making negative claims yourself, use publicly available feedback to understand common concerns and position your solution accordingly.
    This approach allows prospects to hear criticism from existing users instead of from you.

    Let Prospects Voice Their Own Doubts (00:07:31 – 00:10:30)
    The third strategy is to ask thoughtful questions.
    Donald recommends asking prospects what concerns they have about other vendors instead of volunteering criticism yourself.
    Once they share their doubts, you can validate those concerns and explain how your solution addresses the issues they're most concerned about.
    This creates a more natural and trustworthy sales conversation.

    Three Strategies to Handle Competitor Questions with Confidence (00:10:31 – 00:11:39)
    Donald wraps up the episode by summarizing his three-step framework:
    Build your sales conversation around your strengths.
    Use customer stories to explain why buyers switched from competitors.
    Let prospects express their own concerns before responding with customer proof and relevant examples.

    Themes Discussed
    How to discuss competitors professionally
    Positioning your solution without badmouthing others
    Using customer stories to build credibility
    Leveraging online reviews in sales conversations
    Asking better questions during competitive deals
    Building trust through evidence instead of opinion

    Key Quote from the Episode
    "How you can talk about your competitor without badmouthing them is to have your customer do so."— Donald C. Kelly
    Resources Mentioned
    G2 Reviews
    Google Reviews

    Follow Donald on LinkedIn:
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/donaldckelly
    Credits
    As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show.
    Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.
    We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound.
  • The Sales Evangelist

    7 Steps to Making 7 Figures in Enterprise SaaS Sales | Brandon Fluharty - 2016

    03/07/2026 | 42min
    What separates sales professionals who earn six figures from those who consistently earn seven?
    In this episode, Donald sits down with Brandon Fluharty, enterprise SaaS sales leader, speaker, and author of The Seven-Figure Millennial. Brandon shares the mindset, systems, and practical strategies that helped him become a seven-figure earner without subscribing to hustle culture.
    Throughout the conversation, Brandon explains why success in enterprise sales comes from slowing down. Choosing the right opportunities. Building meaningful customer relationships. creating a personal operating system that supports consistent performance.
    If you're selling into enterprise accounts, leading complex deals, or looking to improve your sales career without burning yourself out, this episode is packed with actionable insights.
    Episode Breakdown with Timestamps:
    Brandon's Journey Into Enterprise Sales (00:06:03 – 00:06:56)
    Brandon shared how he transitioned from DJing while starting his sales career to eventually becoming a seven-figure enterprise SaaS seller.
    According to Brandon, reaching seven figures happened much faster than expected and taught him that success is about enjoying the process rather than chasing a destination.
    He explained that falling in love with the daily work mattered more than the financial milestone itself.

    Why Slowing Down Helps You Sell More (00:06:56 – 00:09:32)
    Brandon introduced the philosophy that changed his career: slow down in order to speed up.
    He explained that constantly hustling and chasing every opportunity drains both time and energy.
    Instead, he focused on becoming intentional about where he invested his effort and chose accounts where he could create the greatest impact.

    Protecting Your Time and Energy (00:09:32 – 00:12:57)
    The discussion shifted to why focus is one of the most valuable skills in enterprise sales.
    Brandon explained his Diamond Standard framework for identifying ideal accounts instead of trying to sell to every large company.
    He also shared why understanding the customer's experience gave him credibility when speaking with executive buyers.

    The Three Truths About Seven-Figure SaaS Sales (00:14:18 – 00:17:09)
    Before explaining his framework, Brandon outlined three realities every seller should understand.
    According to Brandon, seven-figure earners typically sell to enterprise organizations, develop confidence through experience, and remain patient during long sales cycles.
    These three foundations make the rest of his seven-step framework possible.

    Find the Right Sales Environment (00:17:09 – 00:20:00)
    Brandon explained why choosing the right company matters as much as developing sales skills.
    Rather than joining the largest organization, he recommends finding a company that's mature enough to support enterprise deals while still allowing individual sellers to make a meaningful impact.
    He also encouraged sales professionals to focus on industries creating long-term transformation, such as AI, cybersecurity, and cloud technology.

    Build a Transformation Mindset (00:20:00 – 00:21:32)
    Brandon believes the best enterprise sellers don't sell products.
    They sell transformation.
    Instead of focusing conversations around features and pricing, he encourages sellers to help customers rethink how their businesses operate and prepare for long-term change.

    Be Strategic About Your Target Accounts (00:21:32 – 00:26:49)
    Brandon explained how the Japanese concept of Ikigai helped him rethink account selection.
    Rather than accepting every opportunity, he prioritized companies that aligned with his interests, expertise, motivation, and ability to create meaningful change.
    According to Brandon, purpose creates the motivation needed to navigate long enterprise sales cycles.

    Create Your Diamond Standard (00:29:02 – 00:30:34)
    Brandon shared the five criteria he uses to identify his ideal accounts.
    His Diamond Standard focuses on opportunities that are personally interesting, industry-leading, aligned with his expertise, capable of moving quickly, and large enough to justify significant investment.
    He explained that every seller should create a personalized framework rather than copy someone else's.

    Turn Imposter Syndrome Into a Strength (00:30:53 – 00:33:01)
    Brandon discussed why imposter syndrome becomes more common as sales professionals advance.
    He shared how embracing his introverted personality allowed him to become a better listener and deeper strategic thinker.
    Instead of viewing personality traits as weaknesses, Brandon encourages sellers to turn them into competitive advantages.

    Win Bigger Deals Through Collaboration (00:33:01 – 00:35:18)
    According to Brandon, seven-figure deals are never won alone.
    He explained why successful enterprise sellers build strong partnerships with legal teams, solution consultants, executives, and marketing instead of trying to control every part of the process.
    Collaboration, not ego, leads to larger opportunities.

    Step Seven: Build a Personal Operating System (00:35:18 – 00:39:29)
    Brandon concluded by introducing two personal frameworks: DFC (Discipline, Flexibility, Curiosity) and PREP (Plan, Rest, Effort, Perform).
    These systems help sales professionals prepare effectively, adapt during conversations, reflect on performance, and avoid the burnout caused by hustle culture.
    According to Brandon, consistent performance comes from operating intentionally rather than simply working harder.

    Themes Discussed
    The seven steps to earning seven figures in SaaS sales
    Why slowing down leads to better sales performance
    Building a transformation mindset in enterprise selling
    Creating a strategic target account list
    Overcoming imposter syndrome
    Collaborating to win enterprise deals
    Developing a personal operating system for long-term success

    Key quote from the Episode:
    "It's not a destination. It really is falling in love with the process." — Brandon Fluharty
    Connect with Brandon Fluharty on Linkedin:
    linkedin.com/in/brandonfluharty
    Signup for Brandon’s Newsletter:
    Be Focused Live Great
    Visit Brandon’s website: brandonfluharty.com
    Connect with Donald C. Kelly:
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/donaldckelly
    Sponsors:
    HubSpot: hubspot.com
    LinkedIn Sales Navigator: Start your 60-day free trial at [linkedin.com/sell
    Blue Mango Studios: Turn your podcast into a lead generation machine at bluemangostudios.com

    Featured Resources:
    Be Focused Live Great: Brandon’s newsletter for insights on professional growth.
    The Seven Steps to Earning Seven Figures: Brandon’s upcoming book on the "anti-hustle" guide to million-dollar SaaS sales.
    Mistakes That Made Me podcast

    Credits:
    As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound.
  • The Sales Evangelist

    How "The Practice" and Being Different Can Help Sellers Connect With More Prospects | Seth Godin - 2015

    29/06/2026 | 36min
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  • The Sales Evangelist

    Building Resilience In a Tough Sales World | Mark Divine - 2014

    26/06/2026 | 30min
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  • The Sales Evangelist

    What Got You to President's Club Will Not Keep You There | Meredith Elliott Powell - 2013

    22/06/2026 | 30min
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I believe in doing BIG THINGS! You should be earning 6 figures easily as a sales rep. But chances are you are not...yet! Sales is the most important department in every company but many sellers are never taught how to effectively sell, much less how to earn their way to high-income status. My own career limped along until a company I worked for invested in sales training to help me succeed. Immediately afterward, I closed a deal worth 4X what the company spent on me and saw hockey-stick improvement in my performance. So I started a podcast to “Evangelize” what was working. Today I interview the world's best sales experts, successful sellers, sales leaders and entrepreneurs who share their strategies to succeed in sales right now: folks like Jeffrey Gitomer, Jill Konrath, Bob Burg, and Guy Kawasaki to name a few. They share actionable insights and stories that will encourage, challenge, and motivate you to hustle your way to top income status. If you’re someone looking to take off in your sales career and earn the income you deserve, hit subscribe and let’s start doing BIG THINGS!
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