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Jet lag isn't just about time zones. FlyKitt founder Andrew Herr is here to explain what flying really does to your body — and how to fight back.
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What We Discuss with Andrew Herr:
Flying wrecks you because of flight inflammation — cabins pressurized to about 8,000 feet mean 26% less air per breath, and rapid pressure changes trigger an immune response akin to mild altitude and decompression sickness. Brain fog, swollen feet, and even midair anxiety follow.
Cabin air is a mixed bag — HEPA filters catch most germs unless you're within two rows of a sick passenger, but engine startup exhaust, oil fume events, and sprayed insecticides slip through. When possible, fly a 787 (no bleed air) or an A350, both pressurized to about 6,000 feet.
Jet lag isn't just about time zones — inflammation disrupts sleep and blocks your circadian rhythm from shifting, which is why a long flight with a small time change still hurts. Melatonin alone won't fix it; light, meal timing, sleep timing, and supplements must work together.
So-called immune boosters like zinc and vitamin C rarely help unless you're deficient — most people need a calmer immune system, not a boosted one. Omega-3s and polyphenols help; salty airline food and alcohol hurt. Abroad, spice and garlic won't kill bacteria, but cooking and salt help.
Plan for how you want to feel when you arrive. Work out or sauna a few hours before flying, skip salty meals and alcohol, and drink plenty of water. At the hotel, request fragrance-free cleaning, set the room near 67 degrees, and clip curtain gaps shut with skirt hangers.
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Extremist groups turn grievance into identity. Ex-neo-Nazi leader Jeff Schoep reveals how they recruit, why members stay, and what finally sets them free.
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What We Discuss with Jeff Schoep:
Jeff wasn't recruited into neo-Nazism — he sought it out, reading Mein Kampf and Holocaust revisionism at 16. Doxxed on live radio at 19, he quit his rock band, shaved his head, and went all in. By 21, he was national leader of the National Socialist Movement.
Hate is built on fear, and recruitment exploits a single grievance — crime, the border, a struggling paycheck. Get someone in the door on that one issue, Jeff explains, then pile on propaganda until a cult-like echo chamber does the rest and everyone outside it becomes the enemy.
Extremist movements feed on persecution. Lost jobs, evictions, and street clashes became proof the cause was right, and a mass shooter was dismissed as crazy rather than radicalized. Meanwhile, the damage rippled outward — Jeff's notoriety even cost his mother a judgeship.
No single moment changed him. Daryl Davis calmly refusing the bait, Deeyah Khan's story of childhood racism, a Jewish woman offering shelter, Black strangers fixing his car at midnight in Detroit — each was a crack in a worldview that took three years to fall apart.
When someone voices an extreme view, don't yell back or roll your eyes. Lead with curiosity, ask genuine questions, and share your own story. Scolding and shaming push people deeper; seeing the human being across the table is what opens the door out.
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You nurtured your daughter's hacker mindset, and she turned it on you. Is her superpower a threat to contain, or a gift to guide? It's Feedback Friday!
And in case you didn't already know it, Jordan Harbinger (@JordanHarbinger) and Gabriel Mizrahi (@GabeMizrahi) banter and take your comments and questions for Feedback Friday right here every week! If you want us to answer your question, register your feedback, or tell your story on one of our upcoming weekly Feedback Friday episodes, drop us a line at friday@jordanharbinger.com. Now let's dive in!
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On This Week's Feedback Friday:
You're an analytics engineer who's raised your 12-year-old daughter on Darknet Diaries and security books — and she just used a broken keyboard, your SIM card, and a shoulder-surfed PIN to seize your Google accounts, then confessed. How do you nurture her gift while teaching her where the line is?
You married a calm, quirky woman you adored, but since the engagement she's traded cycling for lying in bed, gaining weight, and waving off your concerns with talk of DNA. Now your attraction is fading and her immigration paperwork is pending. Is this really about weight, or something much deeper?
You grew up in a tight-knit family, but as your Boomer parents have grown more devout and politically entrenched in retirement, you've drifted toward ambivalence and a quiet nihilism. With the big topics off-limits, how do you keep your bond from shrinking into phone calls about the weather?
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You took a three-week solo trip through Portugal, Spain, and Greece — seaside swims, stupidly good food, new friends, and a fling with an Estonian guy — yet long stretches of unfamiliar loneliness left you shaken. Was the whole thing a false paradise, or was that loneliness trying to tell you something?
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When amateur mad scientists can leverage AI to engineer future pandemics, we need to be prepared to counter the threat. Rob Reid is here to tell us how.
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What We Discuss with Rob Reid:
How a terrifying thought experiment reframes bio risk. Rob argues the scariest scenario isn't a Soviet-style industrial complex but the mere passage of time, since an exponential technology turns what a handful of elite specialists can do today into routine undergraduate coursework tomorrow.
Why a $100 million USAID program called DEEP VZN struck Rob as a suicide pact. The plan was to hunt 15,000 undiscovered viruses, sort them for which posed the gravest threat, then publish the findings openly. Rob and MIT's Kevin Esvelt pushed until it was quietly defanged and later killed.
What makes smart, well-meaning people defend this work. Rob points to an insider culture where open-science absolutism, confidence that we'd out-invent any bad actor, and vaccine promises that collapse under scrutiny combine into a stew that lets good people talk themselves into terrible ideas.
Why Rob keeps returning to aviation as the model. America had 40 to 50 hijackings a year until basic airport screening arrived in 1972, and the next year there were zero. You can't make a threat impossible, but a high enough bar forces conspiracies big enough for law enforcement to catch.
Fortunately, the countermeasures are cheap and already understood. Wastewater sequencing at major airports, stockpiled gear for frontline workers, and germicidal UV light in schools and hospitals would cost a sliver of the defense budget. Denial and despair both produce nothing.
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How did Russia's mafia become its government? Jamison Firestone, a Moscow lawyer who dealt with both, explains how Putin turned the courts into a racket.
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What We Discuss with Jamison Firestone:
How Russia's justice system became a pay-to-play storefront where a rival could buy the whole package — investigation, arrest, jail, and conviction — with one respected opposition paper later pricing Sergei Magnitsky's arrest at $6 million.
Why Putin's 2004 takedown of oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky was the turning point. Once investigators, prosecutors, and judges learned to railroad someone for the state, they realized they could sell the same service to anyone.
What growing up around his father's crack habit, contract killers, and Manhattan's priciest brothel taught Jamison about handling mobsters, and how respect, humor, and non-yes-or-no answers helped him fire a Russian protection racket.
How Magnitsky exposed a $230 million tax fraud, died in custody after being denied medical care, and was then blamed for the very crime he reported, and how the fight for accountability produced the Magnitsky Act's targeted sanctions.
What Jamison learned from backing Yeltsin's 1993 assault on his own Congress — a crisis that cost him his best friend — and why guarding democratic institutions over any policy of the moment protects all of us, whichever side we're on.
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