Reliable software shouldn't be an accident, but for most developers it is. Jeremy Edberg, CEO of DBOS and the guy who scaled Reddit and Netflix, joins Corey Quinn to talk about his wild idea of saving your entire app into a database so it can never really break. They chat about Jeremy's "build for three" rule, a plan for scale without going crazy, why he set Reddit's servers to Arizona time to dodge daylight saving time, and how DBOS makes your app as tough as your data. Plus, Jeremy shares his brutally honest take on distributed systems cargo cult, autonomous AI testing, and why making it easy for customers to leave actually keeps them around.Public Bio: Jeremy is an angel investor and advisor for various incubators and startups, and the CEO of DBOS. He was the founding Reliability Engineer for Netflix and before that he ran ops for reddit as its first engineering hire. Jeremy also tech-edited the highly acclaimed AWS for Dummies, and he is one of the six original AWS Heroes. He is a noted speaker in serverless computing, distributed computing, availability, rapid scaling, and cloud computing, and holds a Cognitive Science degree from UC Berkeley.Show Highlights(02:08) - What DBOS actually does(04:08) - "Everything as a database" philosophy and why it works(08:26) - "95% of people will never outgrow one Postgres machine"(10:13) - Jeremy's Arizona time zone hack at Reddit (and whether it still exists)(11:22) - "Build for three" philosophy without over-engineering(17:16) - Extracting data from mainframes older than the founders(19:00) - Autonomous testing with AI trained on your app's history(20:07) - The hardest part of dev tools(22:00) - Corey's brutal pricing page audit methodology(27:15) - Why making it easy to leave keeps customers around(34:11) - Learn more about DBOSLinksDBOS website: https://dbos.devDBOS documentation: https://docs.dbos.devDBOS GitHub: https://github.com/dbos-incDBOS Discord community: https://discord.gg/fMqo9kDJeremy Edberg on Twitter: https://x.com/jedberg?lang=enAWS Heroes program: https://aws.amazon.com/developer/community/heroes/
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See Why GenAI Workloads Are Breaking Observability with Wayne Segar
What happens when you try to monitor something fundamentally unpredictable? In this featured guest episode, Wayne Segar from Dynatrace joins Corey Quinn to tackle the messy reality of observing AI workloads in enterprise environments. They explore why traditional monitoring breaks down with non-deterministic AI systems, how AI Centers of Excellence are helping overcome compliance roadblocks, and why “human in the loop” beats full automation in most real-world scenarios.From Cursor’s AI-driven customer service fail to why enterprises are consolidating from 15+ observability vendors, this conversation dives into the gap between AI hype and operational reality, and why the companies not shouting the loudest about AI might be the ones actually using it best.Show Highlights(00:00) - Cold Open(00:48) – Introductions and what Dynatrace actually does(03:28) – Who Dynatrace serves(04:55) – Why AI isn't prominently featured on Dynatrace's homepage(05:41) – How Dynatrace built AI into its platform 10 years ago(07:32) – Observability for GenAI workloads and their complexity(08:00) – Why AI workloads are "non-deterministic" and what that means for monitoring(12:00) – When AI goes wrong(13:35) – “Human in the loop”: Why the smartest companies keep people in control(16:00) – How AI Centers of Excellence are solving the compliance bottleneck(18:00) – Are enterprises too paranoid about their data?(21:00) – Why startups can innovate faster than enterprises(26:00) – The "multi-function printer problem" plaguing observability platforms(29:00) – Why you rarely hear customers complain about Dynatrace(31:28) – Free trials and playground environmentsAbout Wayne SegarWayne Segar is Director of Global Field CTOs at Dynatrace and part of the Global Center of Excellence where he focuses on cutting-edge cloud technologies and enabling the adoption of Dynatrace at large enterprise customers. Prior to joining Dynatrace, Wayne was a Dynatrace customer where he was responsible for performance and customer experience at a large financial institution. LinksDynatrace website: https://dynatrace.comDynatrace free trial: https://dynatrace.com/trialDynatrace AI observability: https://dynatrace.com/platform/artificial-intelligence/Wayne Segar on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wayne-segar/SponsorDynatrace: http://www.dynatrace.com
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Presenting at re:Invent with Matt Berk and Bowen Wang
How do you wrangle the chaos of AWS cost tools and live presentations? In this episode of Screaming in the Cloud, Corey Quinn is joined by AWS’s Bowen Wang and Matt Berk to break down their re:Invent talk and everything that almost went off the rails. From surprise tsunami alerts to last-minute feature changes, they explore the anxiety and art behind presenting at scale. They also look at how power user feedback shapes tools like the AWS Pricing Calculator, why storytelling matters more than specs, and what it’s like co-presenting with notes that say “make the rabbit joke.” They also discuss AWS’s internal planning process, how customers can get involved in talks, and where to catch them next.Show Highlights(0:00) Intro(1:38) The Duckbill Group sponsor read(2:35) The importance of collecting feedback before launching a product (4:52) The difference between the intended use of a product and how it’s actually used(8:52) How Bowen and Matt were able to be so prepared for their presentation(13:01) What many people don’t realize goes into practicing for a presentation(17:14) How having a storyline helped Bowen and Matt facilitate better breakout sessions(18:26) The Duckbill Group sponsor read(21:02) The importance of being able to go with the flow during presentations(22:42) Why knowing your audience is essential for having a good presentation(24:32) Choosing between breadth and depth when giving presentations(25:05) Bowen and Matt’s advice for people who want to have their opportunity to give a talk with an AWS service team(34:22) How to keep up with Matt and BowenAbout Matt BerkMatt Berk is an AWS Principal Technical Account Manager at based in Brooklyn who's passionate about storytelling, cloud technologies, and FinOps. When he's not solving customer issues, Matt can be either be found in nature with his dog Ollie, at popular NYC restaurants, or at home planning his next trip to a theme park.About Bowen WangBowen Wang is a Principal Product Marketing Manager for AWS Billing and Cost Management Services, where she focuses on enabling finance and business leaders to better understand the value of the cloud and ways to optimize their cloud financial management. In her previous career, she helped a tech start-up enter the Chinese market. When she's not helping customers optimize their cloud costs, you can find her cheering for F1 races with her husband or juggling life as a mom to an energetic toddler and a playful poodle.LinksAWS Cloud Financial Management Blog Channel: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws-cloud-financial-management/AWS Twitch Channel: https://www.twitch.tv/awsAWS Tech Tales: https://community.aws/livestreams/aws-tech-talesThe authenticated AWS Pricing Calculator is now generally available: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws-cloud-financial-management/the-authenticated-aws-pricing-calculator-is-now-generally-available/
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The Latest State of IaC with Ido Neeman
What’s going on with Infrastructure as Code? On this episode, Corey is joined by Firefly CEO and Co-Founder Ido Neeman to discuss the findings of the State of IaC 2025 report. Throughout their chat, Corey and Ido discuss the evolution of IaC adoption in enterprises, the challenges of managing multi-cloud and multi-IaC environments, and the importance of disaster recovery as code. The conversation also touches on the rise of open-source projects like Open Tofu and the significant role of automation in cloud cost optimization. This episode not only reflects on recent trends, but highlights the importance of robust cloud governance and the continuous need for innovation amidst increasing cloud complexity.Show Highlights(0:00) Intro(0:59) Firefly sponsor read(1:29) Firefly's semi-pivot to AI(2:54) The findings of the State of IaC 2025 survey(5:40) How are people working in multi-cloud environments(8:14) Is there a responsible way to use Helm charts?(11:21) The currrent state of Pulumi(12:46) Problems that can be encountered with large enterprises(18:07) The continuum between innovation and optimization(21:51) Firefly sponsor read(22:31) Are companies actually adopting infrastructure as code?(28:49) The most interesting ways that Ido has seen enterprises use IaC in production(33:40) What's stopping companies from fully leveraging IaC?(41:06) Where you can find more from Ido and FireflyAbout Ido NeemanIdo Neeman is CEO and co-founder of Firefly, and the former CEO and co-founder of Nuweba, the fast and secure serverless platform. To the diversity of roles he has held, he brings more than a decade's experience in the elite Israeli intelligence corps, and later led the technology portfolio at a hedge fund. Today, he is focusing on helping organizations tackle cloud chaos through Infrastructure as Code.LinksFirefly’s website: https://www.firefly.ai/The State of IaC 2025: https://www.firefly.ai/state-of-iac-2025Ido on Twitter: https://x.com/idoneeman?lang=enIdo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ido-neeman/?originalSubdomain=ilSponsorFirefly: https://www.firefly.ai/
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Opening the Managed NAT Gateway with Malith Rajapakse
How does one manage to simplify the complexities of the NAT Gateway? In this episode of "Screaming in the Cloud," Corey Quinn interviews Malith Rajapakse, a DevOps engineer who has recently received acclaim for his blog post discussing the Managed NAT Gateway. Where AWS lacks in its documentation, Malith is a NATural at breaking things down. He’s so great at it that Corey had to invite him on the show! Malith shares the story behind his popular post, his creative process, and his use of interactive diagrams and engaging content. He and Corey also discuss the challenges of documentation and making technical subjects more appealing. Thankfully, Malith has already done that in written form, so enjoy this episode as he speaks it into the world!Show Highlights(0:00) Intro(1:24) The Duckbill Group sponsor read(1:58) Malith's background before his blog post (4:21) Why Malith wrote about the Managed NAT Gateway(5:38) Corey's problems with Managed NAT Gateway and why Malith's blog post impressed him(10:05) The interactive elements of Malith's blog post and how they were made(12:21) Maltih's front-end experience(14:47) Transitioning from front-end to DevOps through JavaScript(16:20) The juxtaposition of Malith's blog post vs. AWS's official documentation(18:05) How AWS's documentation of the managed NAT gateway isn't user-friendly(22:27) Why Malith went all out for his first blog post(23:17) Corey's constructive feedback for Malith(26:05) Where you can find more from MalithAbout Malith RajapakseMalith is a Devops engineer creating visualisations at https://malithr.com/.LinksMalith’s blog: https://malithr.com/Interactive AWS NAT Gateway: https://malithr.com/aws/natgateway/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/malith-rajapakse/Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/malithr.comTwitter: https://x.com/malithrajReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/mdilraj/Sam Rose’s blog: https://samwho.dev/Benjamin Dicken’s blog post on IO devices and latency: https://planetscale.com/blog/io-devices-and-latencyJosh W Comeau’s blog: https://www.joshwcomeau.com/Killed By Google: https://killedbygoogle.com/SponsorThe Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com
Screaming in the Cloud with Corey Quinn features conversations with domain experts in the world of Cloud Computing. Topics discussed include AWS, GCP, Azure, Oracle Cloud, and the "why" behind how businesses are coming to think about the Cloud.
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